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its complicated because I am not sure if we want Rice as a CB I know now, this season, that we need him more at DMF than CB you are one of the few who brought up the double 8 my dream squad is a double 8 but a 442 (I leave many options for CB) for 2021/22 GK Oblak (step-down, Predrag) CB Upamecano or (real wild card) Theo Hernandez shifted to a LCB from LB (and he can be our backup LB if Chilwell cannot go) or Romagnoli or Evan N'Dicka CB Skriniar or Giminez or Ginter or Tapsoba LB Chilwell and Ramy Bensebaini (deffo my number one backup LB option of we do not get either Hernandez brother, he is big (1.86m), strong pacy, very strong defensively) RB Reece and Nordi Mukiele or Sergiño Dest or Takehiro Tomiyasu for BU/rotation DMF (the lower base trad role) Rice (step down Denis Zakaria and then MAYBE then Rice moves to CB so eliminate the players in one of those slots above, probably the 2nd slot) DMF (the higher, roamer role) Camavinga (step down Bruno Guimarães or Ismaël Bennacer or Boubacar Kamara) Fucking Juve snagged Weston McKennie, grrrrrrr LMF/LW Pulisic (or IF Puli cannot stay healthy and CHO turns bust, then the crazy, money be damned option is Sancho, but that is 95% impossible on so many levels) RMF/RW Ziyech Striker Werner Striker Havertz the only other players (all positions save for GK as there are too many and we have no idea who we end up with now)) not listed above who intrigue me ATM and might be remotely available next summer or after (Alaba, at 29yo, is too old by then and Sergio Reguilón is now not needed as we have Ben) are (many are pipe dreams, and I did not even toss in Mbappe, as we cannot afford him) Matthijs de Ligt (not happening) Raphaël Varane (not happening) Lucas Hernández (if Bayern do not want him, which is highly doubtful, he could replace his brother above) Marquinhos (not happening) Ibrahima Konaté Caglar Söyüncü Sandro Tonali (not happening) Thomas Partey (will be 28yo though in June, so getting close to too old and I assume he will be sold this summer anyway) Saúl Ñíguez Marco Verratti (not happening) Houssem Aouar Nicolò Zaniolo Dominik Szoboszlai Lucas Ocampos Ansu Fati (not happening) Mikel Oyarzabal Erling Håland Victor Osimhen (not happening now, as Napoli bought him) Richarlison Donyell Malen

except Manure will not sell Hendo, at least not at a sane price they know he will soon replace De Gea I doubt they would even loan him to us

in the UK, one historical reason was heritable surnames, where one of the names would disappear as there were no male heirs to carry on the line but the tradition is very old, not a new thing famous examples of non-hyphenated ones David Lloyd George (Prime Minister during and after WWI) Andrew Lloyd Webber Helena Bonham-Carter Sacha Baron Cohen John Maynard Keynes Iain Duncan Smith My own surname is a hyphenated blend (father's surname then mother's) wife's name is now the same, legally, as mine, but it is really strange, because her last name (she is 100% Swedish) is the exact same as my father's (no, we are NOT related, lolol) (our last name, the Swedish first part, in Sweden, is like Smith, Williams, Johnson, Jones, etc are in the UK and the US) some super common Swedish surnames (there are many variant spellings too) Eriksson Larsson Johansson Andersson Karlsson Nilsson Lindberg Persson Svensson Lindström Lundgren Forsberg I taught a class 2 years ago of around 85 total people, and we had 18 Erikssons (or some other spelling, like Ericsson, etc) !!!! Many did have hyphenated names or double surnames, plus many in Sweden go by a middle name (some have 2, 3, even 4 (very rare) middle middle names) I call my wife's brother's best friend by his given first name just to piss him off (his parents do as well, much to his chagrin, so I copied them), lolol, as they both are assholes and so easy to get all argy bargy, lolol I am deffo a trouble-maker (I am sure many here have already surmised this )

Funds and the fury: players react to Diangana exit as West Ham target Tarkowski https://theathletic.co.uk/2047862/2020/09/07/diangana-noble-tarkowski-moyes-players-anger-deferrals/ It took the West Ham United captain Mark Noble less than half an hour to publicly register his anger at the club’s sale of their talented young winger Grady Diangana to West Bromwich Albion. At 9.13pm on Friday night, Noble wrote on Twitter, “As captain of this football club I’m gutted, angry and sad that Grady has left, great kid with a great future!!!!!”. The message was endorsed by Declan Rice, the club’s prodigious young England midfielder, and The Athletic understands that the anger was shared across the dressing room. The effect of the sale was said to be two-fold: on the one hand it created a funereal atmosphere among a squad who had been hugely impressed by the 22-year-old in pre-season, but it was also said to have brought a group who had been in good spirits this summer even closer together, uniting them in opposition to what had happened. West Ham’s hierarchy were understood to have been unimpressed by Noble’s intervention, though there is no suggestion he will be punished. The club admitted that the decision to sell the player had been taken “reluctantly” and only so that they were able to “strengthen the squad in different areas at this time”. The Athletic understands that the fee for Diangana is about £18 million but that the money will not necessarily all be paid up front. It is believed West Ham have also negotiated a 20 per cent sell-on fee. West Ham consider that to be good business for a player who is unproven in the Premier League. The logic to the deal from West Ham’s perspective was that they simply did not have the funds to strengthen the squad this summer without generating money through player sales. Ideally, this would have come from offloading the likes of Brazilian attacker Felipe Anderson and Argentine midfielder Manuel Lanzini but the club have been unable to find buyers. The club’s statement also spoke of the need to bring “balance” to the squad. With Anderson still around, Diangana would have been competing with him, Jarrod Bowen, Michail Antonio and Andriy Yarmolenko, where as other positions are nowhere near as well stocked. David Moyes desperately needs to strengthen his defence — a fact underlined by conceding five goals against Bournemouth on Saturday — and The Athletic understands that the club followed up the sale of Diangana by making an increased second offer for the Burnley centre-half James Tarkowski of £22 million that could rise to £27 million with add-ons. When you consider that West Ham, who recorded a pre-tax loss of £28.2 million in their recent accounts and whose wage bill rose by more than a quarter last year to nearly £136 million, have been hard hit by the financial impact of the coronavirus pandemic, then the financial realities they are dealing with become clear. The owners contributed a further £30 million to the club over the summer and still they were short on transfer funds. As The Athletic reported on Friday, West Ham’s recruitment staff had lined up possible targets but could only wait for money to become available. As the club said after selling Diangana, “the money received for Grady will be reinvested entirely in the team, in line with the manager’s targets”. The frustration for the supporters and, clearly, the players too, is that Diangana would appear to have embodied everything that Moyes has spoken of when discussing the sort of player he would like to have. “I want to stop the idea that what we’re doing is just buying someone who will fill the gap,” Moyes said in January. “I want it to be the vision for the club that we’re looking to bring in young, attractive, hungry players who are saying, ‘We’re going to make West Ham better’. “I know about footballers and I think players who are hungry and players who are trying to climb that ladder, trying to be Premier League footballers, we have to have a mix of that.” It would appear to describe Diangana perfectly. The winger had been with West Ham since the age of 12, had played a starring role helping West Brom to promotion and was flying in pre-season, hungry to prove himself worthy of a place in the Premier League in east London. Instead, he will start the season back at The Hawthorns, for a club against whom West Ham may well be battling for survival this season. “The lads are gutted. He’s a real talent. The manager’s come out and said he wants to build a young, hungry team. Then you sell your talent,” said a West Ham source. An additional frustration for the players is that in April, when Moyes, vice-chairman Karren Brady and finance director Andy Mollett took a 30 per cent pay cut, the players, led by Noble, agreed to pay deferrals. They were among only a handful of Premier League clubs to agree to reduce their wages in some form. West Ham said the payments were to retain jobs and allow them to pay non-playing staff salaries in full. Despite those measures, the club still had to sacrifice one of their young talents to fund any squad improvement. “They’re fucking the lads,” a source said. It is understood West Brom, who had budget considerations of their own, at one point considered trying to sign the player on loan again to preserve funds for other much-needed additions. When word reached them that West Ham needed to sell, they decided to try and strike a permanent deal before the London club were able to raise funds by shifting another player. How Diangana’s departure is judged in the longer-term could yet be decided by how West Ham use the funds his exit has generated. The Athletic understands that West Ham first approached Burnley early last week and have made two bids so far for Tarkowski, with the second coming on Friday night. It is understood that the 27-year-old is Moyes’ No 1 centre-back target. West Ham’s manager has been a big fan of Tarkowski after being impressed by him when he played for Oldham against Everton in the FA Cup back in 2013. He has tracked his progress since and after Tarkowski moved to Burnley, Moyes tried to sign him again for Sunderland. At that point, Tarkowski was back-up to Michael Keane and Ben Mee but the defender wanted to stay and fight for his place. It is understood that Burnley believe the player is worth more than that second potential £27 million offer and manager Sean Dyche wants to keep hold of his impressive centre-back, who played 90 minutes against Hearts in a pre-season friendly on Saturday and is focused on his football. The defender has just under two years left on his deal, so it is Burnley’s best chance to capitalise on selling him for a good fee and not a cut-price deal in 12 months time. The danger is that Burnley could face a situation of losing the player on a free, as they did recently with Jeff Hendrick, with the player able to sign a pre-contract elsewhere in 18 months time. With no fee agreed between Burnley and any other club, there is no decision for Tarkowski to make yet. West Ham would be able to offer him a much more lucrative contract, with their average earner paid roughly double what Burnley’s top earners are. It may also enhance his England chances, with the player understood to be disappointed to miss out on Gareth Southgate’s England squad again despite ending the season in sensational form. Whether a deal for Tarkowski, or any other defensive additions, will be enough to heal the pain caused by Diangana’s departure remains to be seen.

Smoovie, my Baggies m8 is over the moon they took him from the Shammers lolol now lets prise away Rice and leave them really crying

amazing what a rise he has had since he left Shitty scored for Belgium too

Bernardo, I assume, will take over for the Silva role full time, unless Foden claims it Mahrez started at RW 35 times out of 50 games I don't see him going to a squad player this coming season Shitty is a bit unbalanced (in the opposite way of most teams) they have a lot of left-footed players (11 counting youth/loanees) and only one true LWer (a good one to have, lol Sterling) surely they will have to dump 2 of those LB's (Angeliño and one other) if they are bring in another Aymeric Laporte Nathan Aké Benjamin Mendy Oleksandr Zinchenko Angeliño Phil Foden Luka Ilic Bernardo Silva Riyad Mahrez Ferran Torres Patrick Roberts

Premier League 2019-20 stats

heights (I am going to say 1.93m ie. 6-4, and up are 'tall' keepers) some of your tall ones are shorter than some of your shorter ones Alessio Cragno 1.84m Anthony Lopes 1.84m Kepa 1.86m (was listed at 1.88m for years) Marc-André ter Stegen 1.87m Jan Oblak 1.88m André Onana 1.90m Alex Meret 1.90m Ugurcan Cakir 1.91m Mike Maignan 1.91m Juan Musso 1.91m Predrag Rajkovic 1,92m ----------------------------------------------- Thomas Strakosha 1.93m Pierluigi Gollini 1.94m Alphonse Areola 1.95m Emiliano Martínez 1.95m Gianluigi Donnarumma 1.96m Edouard Mendy 1.97m Cuntois 1.99m Fraser Forster 2.01m here are the tallest keepers now here are the top rated ones at each height (1.98m and down) ....

If not Oblak (next year unless we truly do a ever before in history liquidation this window) then Predrag Rajković is still my number one

I think it is more just a general point I agree on Sancho the only way there is room for him (and it would NOT, obviously, be this window) is if two disastrous things happen (well 3, but I am NOT going to even discus Ziyech with a career ending injury, the odds are really low) 1 CHO turns complete bust 2 Pulisic is just far too often injured

well, if it truly out of left field (meaning not on that list of 35 who have now been linked) here would be my best guesses 35 more names, there are reasons for each, this is not some rando list really digging deep here and there are some great youth prospects on here as well bold would be fine with me Anthony Lopes Pierluigi Gollini Odysseas Vlachodimos Bartlomiej Dragowski David Soria Tomas Vaclík Dominik Livakovic Álex Remiro Benjamin Lecomte Koen Casteels Emil Audero Rui Silva Matvey Safonov Aleksandr Maksimenko Altay Bayindir Ionut Radu Walter Benítez Alessio Cragno Keylor Navas Mattia Perin Paul Bernardoni Jiri Pavlenka Andrey Lunev Alex McCarthy Luís Maximiano Ondrej Kolar Sam Johnstone Angus Gunn Robin Olsen Jonas Omlin Samir Handanovic Tomas Koubek David von Ballmoos Andriy Lunin Karl-Johan Johnsson

Smdh Lets hope it is just to get a better price once COVID passes That has to be the reasoning

Barca

COVID-19 deal yawn

soon 29yo, one decent topflight season ever, bags of knee issues, club relegated but hey! he is English so lets dump £20m on him!!! smdh

Add Sergio Romero to the insane list of Chels linked GKers Jan Oblak Marc-André ter Stegen Gianluigi Donnarumma André Onana Bernd Leno Unai Simón Jordan Pickford Alex Meret Thomas Strakosha Dean Henderson Juan Musso Mike Maignan Pau López Ugurcan Cakir Neto Alphonse Areola Aaron Ramsdale Nick Pope Jasper Cillessen Alban Lafont Roman Bürki Péter Gulácsi Yann Sommer Kasper Schmeichel Predrag Rajkovic Emiliano Martínez Martin Dubravka Edouard Mendy Jack Butland Fraser Forster Salvatore Sirigu Sven Ulreich Vicente Guaita Tim Krul 35 now, and I am sure I have forgotten some.

22 for sure and possibly 26 need to go over the next 4 (2 X summer/winter) windows. Don't forget Bats, Zappacosta, Baba and Jorginho btw, if we are talking about big money spends who need to be flushed ASAP. Kepa is going to be a nightmare too, unless a miracle takes place.

Mendy worries me. He looked poor the last game I saw him play, he is 29 in around 5 months (even though that age means nothing short term for GKers, his fees being talked about are high for that age) his distribution is meh, he has very little big game experience (no European experience and only 2 years top flight experience), and he is an African Senegal national team player (now is their starter atm) so we lose him for a month or so when AFCON starts (even though that is not right away, it is 3 of the next 4 years after this season). He is very tall (1.98m), on the plus side.

Has to be up there as one of the worst kits ever released': Manchester United fans despair over leaked images of 'zebra crossing' third-kit which they are comparing to 'pyjamas' that 'could hypnotise the opposition' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8700829/Manchester-United-fans-despair-leaked-images-zebra-crossing-kit.html

I doubt Pep benches Mahrez straightaway Torres is superb, but will need time to adjust

so fucked when a London club gets turned down by a player to stay in BURNLEY lolololol

I so hope they do not get him, as their 2 LB's (Shaw and the right-footed Williams) are a major weakness in their lineup If you do not count Theo Hernández (as I do not think he is leaving at all) there are very few true quality upgrades left on the board Sergio Reguilón Alex Telles Robin Gosens Nicolás Tagliafico Ramy Bensebaini Pervis Estupiñán Alejandro Grimaldo Luca Pellegrini Alex Sandro (30yo in 3 and a half months, after this window closes he is gone from all lists) José Gayà (100m euro release clause) then 2 teens Rayan Aït Nouri (19) Nuno Mendes (18) <<<<<<< I would buy him next summer, when Alonso goes. Surely he must go by then)