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😂😂😂 I am a chartered accountant, genius. But keep going. 😂😂

Lol. Get a sense of understand of how things work first. Or wait, keep making OTt statement like you keep making.

Oh my God. What objections have you addressed. You are going on and on about how money can be carried over when none of this is true. I am sure all the CAs and accounting people are idiots. Who do everything in their power to balance books. Understsnd those basic concepts before blaming the board and the people who are running the club and making wild and OTT claims about what the club should do when it is not even possible. Get real for a moment. "it is madness to say that monies gained from sales cannot be included because they were not spent" No. That is not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that financial books of different years are completely different. Because of over spending in 18/19, we can't again over spend in 20/21 too given how FfP works which is on a 3 year rolling window. And we do take FfP seriously "are you going to argue that we then have no money for summer 2021 (as all the sales, or the vast majority of them) happened before summer 2021?" No. And don't be stupid about this. This is why clubs have a transfer budget. Player sales are not the only way to generate money for transfers. Clubs like United have a much higher revenues compared to ours while having similar expenditures in terms of player amortized values and wages, which leads to us having less spare budget compared to them because of which we have to rely on player selling. Please don't forget that balancing books and the end of year financial statement is massively important to the club trying to become self sustainable.

My God!!! Oh man. You cant go back a window and just include whatever you want mate. It's neither the way accounting works, nor the way the club does. If we were banned this year, that is the exact same reason why we bought pulisic a season before. And that's why I said, that we over spent in 18/19 so as to cover for this window. Understand what I said in the first post? The club CAN NOT include hazard's sale in the 20/21 books. Which means that 100mil is not available plus it is already offset by pulisic's transfer too. You can keep on saying about the 500mil figure, but thats nothing but a stupid way too look at it. You want to have a bet how much we are going to spend next sunmer? The club can't spend 500mil on players while amortization sales are there just for 250mil. Not anymore. Or we would need massive amounts for roman, which is not happening. Also how am I putting In kovacic twice? What are you understanding that I am saying? The only thing I am repeatedly saying is, you can't use the last season's sales, to include for the next summer, that is not how accounting works also you are not including what the club did the transfer window to compensate for this ban. You either look at every thing individually or then look at thinfs at a whole. Don't see at things the way you want. I am not disputing the actual numbers, I am disputing how much budget we will have available. And it will not have the sales available from this year's seasons. That's all I am saying.

Naaaaa.. just sell him 😂😂😂

What? Hazard, and the 18/19 guys have been sold so those can be included, but not the ones bought just a year ago? How does that make sense? There is a 18/19 outlay and a 19/20 outlay and a 20/21 outlay. The only reason I even bought up the 18/19 buys, is because you are somehow adding the 19/20 sold players for the next summer kitty. You can't carry that forward on the books. Hazard is done. His 100/130m sale will have no impact on the 20/21 book. If the 18/19 boughts can't be counted on your books next year, how can the 19/20 sold be counted? For the 20/21 summer, only the sales done in 20/21 will be counted. Hazard's, omerou, and the rest can not be included in your figures at all. They are for the 19/20 books and that is the point I am trying to make. Fair enough on JKS, did not know he had extended. If he has, I would rather he go on loan. Drinkwater was healthy this window, I did not see any clubs banging on our doors to take him off our hands, even on loan. So how can you make that assumption that he will fetch that sum? My conclusion: I am sorry, but I still can't make any sense of how you have included this year's sales in your transfer kitty for next summer. Makes absolutely no sense. And on the other hand you are saying that our transfers should have nothing to do with previous years, which I totally agree. In short, let's wait for the 20/21 summer window to happen and see how much we spend.shoukd give a fair indication

Did not he also score the winner in a CL game against inter after being 0-2 down?

I don't think we should take the sales of this year too. It seems like the club/board had well anticipated the ban, bought the likes of kepa/puli etc in 17/18. We had a net spend of 120+mil in that year. So this year seems to be just a correction of that. So the likes of Eden, omerou, Palmer, da Silva, hector, kalas, Aina and Luiz should not be included on the list. Also, giroud, Pedro, mvg, kenedy, Jake clarke-salter, musonda, are in the last year of their contracts, same as willian. Don't think these guys would fetch anything is we want to sell them, neither would they sign an extension just for us to try and make a quick buck out of them. Piàzon has a contract till 2021, but a loan spell till the end of his contract. Won't be surprised if the club has given up totally on him. Just get his wages off the book. Also, I don't think we would be able to offload drinkwater for 12mil. I mean we can hardly find a club to pay his wages, finding a club to pay that fee and his wages will be next to impossible. Out of the whole list, I think these are the ones which should be counted: £30m Bakayoko £30m Bats £50m Morata £30m Alonso £40m Zouma £10m Moses £13m Zappacosta £10m Baba £7m Lewis Baker £7m Juan Castillo £5m Matt Miazga £2m Richard Nartey £5m Danilo Pantic £8 Izzy Brown £25m Azpi £30m Barkely So all of this is close to 300mil. And we would need a 2nd and 3rd choice ST. A first choice CB (that is what zouma is), LB, Rb, a first and second choice Rw.

How many can we realistically get? Pool won't sell vvd unless it's a 150-200mil bid. Why would varane even want to move from RM to Chelsea? Koulobaly - not at all sold that he is anywhere near world class. Also, Napoli has given 15 goals in 12 games, we have conceded 17 in 12 and 4 in last 6. I honestly don't believe the koulibaly hype.

In that case, all 3 for both the games after the break, city and Valencia. Need to be compact.

I think we should rotate all 3. How many consecutive games has kova played in the last month or more? These things end up with injuries. We have 3 players in top form for 2 positions. I would keep rotating them specially with that December period just around the corner. But yes, do agree. Kova-jorginho should be first priority.

Kepa Reece zouma tomori Emerson Kante jorginho kovacic Willian Tammy pulisic Might be the first game we start without mount in PL. Calling it now, we will win this.

In the last 6 pl games, since the Liverpool game, we have conceded just 4 goals. 2 against Burnley after being 4-0 up, where we just switched off. Also it was more on the mid (jorginho and kova) tiring after the ajax away game rather than the defence making mistakes. 1 goal against Watford. Softest of penalties I have ever seen. Also jorginho mistake. Only goal that was on the defence was the soton goal. Irrespective, since the zouma-tomori partnership has taken hold, we have been brilliant defensively. Even the games like caraboa cup and ajax, it was far more on the full backs rather than the center backs, and infact mostly on Alonso. If zouma and tomori continue this (4 goals in 6 PL games stuff), there is no reason to go out and spend big money when can do that to buy on a LB, second striker, RW (Sancho if willian don't extend). Those are far more important.

Here, I would like to ask a question: Which defenders are good enough against the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, aguero, and mbappe? I would honestly like to know.

Based on the way both these players are improving, yes. Hell, we won a CL with Cahill and Luiz as CBs, bosingwa as rb. Moreover, I don't think it's simply about zouma and tomori. It's about the whole squad. Zouma, tomori, Andreas, ake/Rudi are 4 very good CBs. With the way lamps is designing the squad, the way it's all about meritocracy, there won't be any entitlement of starting 11 place. The way zouma and tomori have performed and stepped up since the pool game, I don't think there is any team that we can't go toe to toe. The issue is consistency and concentration, which will come with more experience and time. Don't forget that zouma just turned 25 and tomori is 21

I think you are missing the point of my post. Rather than it being my ideal window (which would simply be a LB, ST, RW (based on William's contract)), it was a post of how we would line up with the transfers that are rumored to happen. Financially it seems plausible. At the end of the day, lamps has deserved to get the players he wants. He has worked brilliantly with the kids, now he deserves to get the players that he thinks would take the team to the next level.

Like I said, I would keep the same 4. But given the options of the rest 3, I would personally sell him above the rest given his injury record. No where have I doubted his quality. But he has already had a knee and groin surgery. And given how these things take a toll, it would be a hard choice for me.

Lol For every time zouma is got caught on the ball (which off the top of my head, have not been many since the United game), I can give you 3/4 of tomori's. Zouma's on the ball play has improved exponentially this season. Even his passing range with those change of plays to the left flank. Our defensive record this season has nothing to do with just zouma. Its been a system issue with set piece through out the season. How many goals have we conceded from open play bar the United opener? These are teething issues which will get better with time.

If it was up to me, I would keep the same four as this season. But if ake is bought him, (which would be a brilliant buy as it would give us a top CB, good LB and a cover for DM), I would sell an injury prone Rudi instead of an ever improving zouma, a potentially top Andreas. Like you said "when healthy". As for 40mil, it's because of the injury history. https://www.transfermarkt.com/antonio-rudiger/verletzungen/spieler/86202 This is not something to be ignored despite of his qualities.

Why would we sell our best cb of this season? As well as most improved. I would prefer Werner too. But if Chelsea or pool come knocking, he will choose pool for sure. Also, this list is based on what the outlets are saying that lamps wants. Given how well he has performed what was given to him, he desrves to get what he wants. Simple as that.

Every outlet is giving the same set of names as lamps' targets - Sancho/zaha, ake, Chilwell, dembele. If lamps wants it, I am all in for it. Whatever he needs. I can see us having the following window in the summer- Ins: Sancho - 100mil Chilwell - 70mil Ake - 40mil Dembele - 50mil Total ins ~ 260mil Outs: Morata - 50mil Rudiger - 40mil Barkley - 30mil Bakayoko - 25mil Alonso - 25mil Michy - 30mil Giroud - free Pedro - free Willian - free Drinkwater - free Moses - 5mil Kennedy - 5mil Juan castillo - 10mil Baker - 5mil Miazga - 5mil Baba Rahman - 5mil Zappacosta - 5mil Musonda, pantic, Blackman, Izzy - 5mil Pasalic - 10mil Total outs ~ 255mil Squad: Gk - kepa, willy Rb - Reece (HG), azpi CB - ake (HG) , zouma, tomori (HG) Andreas (HG) Lb - Emerson, Chilwell (HG) CM - jorginho, Kante, kovacic, gilmour (HG), mount (HG), RlC (HG) Wingers - CHO (HG), pulisic, Sancho (HG), anjorin (HG) ST - Tammy (HG), dembele, ugbo (HG)

Sorry to hear about it all mate. Take care.

How did Emerson rot on the bench? He just came back from Injruy and you want lampard to play him 2 times in 4 days and risk getting re-re-injured? (Cause he has already been re-injured).

If we get a half decent proposal for him, we should seriously sell him. Use maatsen when needed. Otherwise rotate between the Emerson, azpi and Reece for the 2 fb position. Anyone but him.

I feel we will win both and top the group. Kante is back, which instantly raises our level by a notch while adding steel and calmness in the mid. Plus now don't think Alonso will take the pitch in atleast these 2 games.