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Is the "joking" only to when we should not sack him. Cause the post i quoted wants him sacked by the new year. I mean seriously WTF.

Still better than being a fair weather plastic.

If he loses every game from now till the end of the season, he should still REMAIN as the chelsea manager. He has shown a lot more positives than any of the fair weather fans on here expected in the summer. Yes, we are currently struggling and looking poor, but thats what happens with a squad of 16/17 players with no quality depth. We have incorporated youth, changed our whole identity, lost a top 5/10 player in the world without replacement and yet we are 4th in the league table with round of 16 in CL. Calling for him to be sacked on the first signs of trouble is not just irritating and frustrating but shows exactly the kind of fans that are on here.

Hahahahahha. Sure. I think he should be sacked today.

If frank wants this "second rate player", then so be it.

When arsenal bid 40mil, CP said they want 70m. I dont know where you are getting the 80mil quote. Moreover thats their asking price, does not mean thats what he will go for. Like people have said 40m + Michy would be a good deal. Michy has just 1.5 years on his contract so will be going for a bargain anyways in 6 months.

3rd choice in a 2 striker formation. Here he is 3rd/4th choice (puli as a false 9) in a 1 striker formation. massive difference.

Have to agree with this. Moreover given the 0 trust lamps is showing in either of michy and bats, makes it essential to have a 2nd choice striker in the winter. Zaha seems to be the best option available.

What does squad cost have to do with any of this? We go with a philosophy of one in and one out. If we have a hazard who we sell for 100m and replace him with pulisic for 60m, we are making money, but our squad cost is increasing as hazard was bought for just 30m. In short, we are losing quality, making money and playing better football than any of our previous manager could have us play that way. and yet you are complaining about how much our squad costed. Did you care to read about the context that I used "racism" in. It was just to say that not every opinion is worth respecting. Sarri's critics had a very valid point about our performances being abject and the club not looking to go in the right direction. Also fuck sarri and fuck his critics. I asked you for your reasoning of wanting lamps sacked. Why are you digressing? Tell me why should the club sack him. I would sack the manager for the following reasons: 1. Poor results - ours have been good. Exceeding expectations. 2. Poor performance - ours has been good. Exceeding expectations massively. 3. Youth integration - exceeding expectation. 4. Environment - A+. And very positive. 5. Poor transfer - has not had a chance. Might be missing something's, but would say these are the broad points. Where has lamps gone wrong that he deserves the sack, cause at this moment, he looks to be doing an A+ job. If someone tomorrow says that bakayoko is a better footballer than Messi, and he wants respect for his opinion, would you give it? Calling what opinion for what it is will not be "entitled" it would be common sense and the right thing to do. Asking for lampard to be sacked has to be the most ludicrous statement I have read on here which in itself is an achievement given some of the posts "fans" make. So stop playing the victim here. Give a sound reasoning of why lamps, who is over achieving, should be sacked.

Same here. Price tag aside, I am coming around the idea of zaha. And possibly dembele (Lyon) in the summer. We would have Tammy, dembele, zaha, pulisic, Cho, willian/new rw for 3 positions. Anyhow, if we were languishing in 6/7th with no hope of top 4, I would have said fuck it, all things to be done in summer when everything is possible. But given our current position and lamps' total and complete lack of trust in giroud and michy, we need someone right now. And zaha fits the bill well (in terms of back up striker and winger option).

I think the only people coming off as entitled are the ones who are ridiculously wanting lamps out. Out for what? Reaching the knock out stage of CL? Changing the whole identity of the club and the way we play that "better" and experienced managers could not? Despite losing our best attacker permanently, not having our best CB till now and our best midfielder missing for large chunks of the season. And none of the injuries/transfers were his fault. So what do these "fans" want him out for? Just because he is inexperienced? Or that the young team was going through a hard spell that most knew would happen at some time. This "every opinion should be respected" is a piece of shit. The opinion should be respected if the opinion merits respect. Racists people also have an "opinion", does not mean it deserved to be heard. "Frankout" does not merit respect in any way. He has surpassed almost all of our expectations so far. People thought we would not make top 6, and here we are in 4th and just 3 points behind city. That too with a complete youth revolution. Not just 1/2 odd players, but mount, Tammy, tomori, Reece, CHO. All of them. Now coming to spend, the club buying bakayoko and drinkwater is hardly lamps' fault now. The point people are making is that, currently lamps is just working with what he has. And he has a lot of dross. Barkley, Alonso, giroud, Pedro, michy won't be here at the start of next season, I can say that with all confidence. The squad lacks depth in quality. And yet we are doing well. Also, we might "spend" a lot, but it's of no use when we sell those players a year or 2 down the line. Since 15/16, we have a net spend lesser than city, United, arsenal, wolves, everton, Leicester, whu, Brighton, Bournemouth, Newcastle and villa. https://www.transfermarkt.co.in/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

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Own goal was his "mistake". We differ in the understanding of the term mistake? If the kdb goal is counted as a "mistake" then JT made 10 mistake a season too with deflections and what nots, cause that is what happens when you put your body on the line. Most of the goals you have counted can hardly be called "mistakes". Definitely not personal mistakes. Collective mistakes. Soton goal was a mistake? That left back goes past 5 of our players but it's a zouma mistake? Like.seriously? That too from a fucking throw in if I remember correctly. Not having it mate. Not one bit. A striker stealing ahead of a defender happens, bread and butter. But you don't let a player dribble past players (3/4) from throw and let him out a cross in. Out of the top of your head you have given a list of goals in which I can find 2/3 more players that can be blamed in each of those goals. Maybe a world class defender like VVD would have done better but I don't think anyone is calling zouma that. But saying things like he has made mistakes and cost us 10 goals is an OTT statement to say the least. And yes, we were lucky that tomori's mistakes did not cost us but that does not mean they did not happen. The important thing is to learn from those mistakes which it felt he was not as those same mistakes kept happening. Of course he is a young kid, and like I said, he will make those mistakes, and I won't hold it up against him.

Please enlighten me about those 10 goals. Please do. I would also like to know what you entail as a mistake because when I am talking about tomori's those are personal mistakes. Not like the one where your keeper sells you short to be fucked by the striker. But go on, tell me those 10 goals.

Kepa Reece Rudi Tomori/Zouma Emerson Jorginho Kante Willian Mount CHO Tammy

Will suffice to say that we view ake very differently. Pointing to Bournemouth goals conceded is definitely not fair in my books due to their lack of quality anywhere on the pitch. I think he would be a definite starter for any club other than pool and city and even city I am not so sure. John stones, really? Yiu think ake is not better than stones. Well, just shows how different our evaluation of the player is. He is definitely better than the dross at North London clubs, the red of Manchester and most of our options. I can see why we would want him. A poor left footed LCB, something that we sorely lack. Add his other qualities too and you can see why even pool and city were behind him. Lastly, vardy has not played for a top 6 side, probably would never start for one too, does not mean he is not a "brilliant," striker.

A back up for 50/60mil? I don't think so, infact no where near to it. He is higher in priority than de vrij in the Dutch national team, the same de vrij who is on a lot of fans' bucket list. As for comparison with zouma and ake. I seriously don't know what you are talking about. I mean his understanding of the game, ball playing ability, even leadership is miles ahead of those 2. Zouma might have been good at everton but no where near ake, who has been brilliant and a mainstay for Bournemouth. And that is the reason who was/is getting rumored with a lot of big clubs (2 of the best clubs on this planet at the moment - pool and city). Goes on to say a lot about his quality.

He was been linked with Liverpool in the summer, so don't know what you are talking about. Bournemouth not able to tighten things up is down to a lot of different things. Quality of players around him, their style of play, the massive injury list. I don't think soton were a defensive machine even with vvd with them. Not saying ake is as good, but to say he is not a massive improvement on atleast 3 of our cbs is weird in my opinion.

I dont we can call AKE a panic buy. He is a brilliant player who if we can offload Andreas and get him, it would be a perfect replacement. Him and Rudi would form a good partnership

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You changed your stance on zouma cause most of the people on here were praising his performances specially before the international break. Most people did not expect us to be in Top 6, so not making top 4 should not be a massive thing? Anyways, for me this season is a pass, it's about the gameplay and the positives. To know who can be trusted and if the youngsters are good enough, and then improving on the negatives. Arsenal or ac Milan have a young core of brilliant players? It's such a weird comparison. I mean arsenal's 31 year old captain of 2 months now apparently wants out, the person who was the PL golden boot winner compared to a team full of young talent and now going to add more talent. I am sorry but I don't see the similarities at all. Again, it maybe due to my lack of knowledge but I am willing to make a massive bet that despite playing azpi this season at Lb, we will be a PL top 2/3 for the coming decade. Lastly, we can talk semantics all night long. But I was very clear. After the United Carling cup game, fans wanted Alonso out. And never to play for us again, it's almost happened. Does not seem like Alonso is part of lamps' plans at all. After the city and whu performance by Emerson, people wanted him dropped, that happened too, so there is a sense of meritocracy by lamps. Now he is getting critisized for playing the only possible option left? Sorry if I think that's just OTT and totally unfair.

Obviously I understand. Its the "fans" on here. That don't. I have already seen "positives" enough to see that lamps has a direction to take us forward. Yes, there are a lot of issues and teething issues, but obviously there will be. But this season is about getting to know who we can trust and keep for next season. Who is willing to adapt and improve on them and the team as a whole.

Hahaha. What you exactly said is "you won't have an issue with people who broach a new manager" which definitely does not equate to "consideting lamps out" right? 😂 You really are a massive band Wagoner. Just parrot out some shit and try to come out looking like you actually fucking have a clue about things. Just like your "hey I can add and subtract so I know how much money we have for transfers" 😂 Give it a rest. And also let THIS board decide what? THIS board had unanimously decided that Tammy was a championship level striker or a donkey or a so and so. The fact that you want to validate your opinion by most on here who think half the squad is not good enough after a defeat says it all. It's probably you, who needs to learn to read properly. Read exactly what I wrote. Azpi is an adequate Lb given our current options. Alonso is not adequate enough to even be regarded as an option. The only one is Emerson who half the "board" on here wanted dropped. So till we get a new LB, we will have to see azpi at LB due to lack of options.

Sure mate sure. No one is good enough. Sell them all 😂. Lamps out. Sell the club too. 😂 Ridiculous. Tomori has been good. As good as a young player playing his 1st season can be. But the number of mistakes he has made, he can't be considered as the best. And that is not because of a run or not. It's based on the performances both have put. But don't worry, continue with the sell them all agenda. 😂

Hahaha. You are freaking talking about "considering" being lampard out and you have the fuck balls to say "tosh" to someone else's opinion. Hahahah. Oh the irony. And yes, azpi is an adequate Lb when compared to Alonso. Because Alonso is a pathetic defender. Understand that. And hence we are playing azpi at the moment. The fact that you can even "consider" lampard out shows exactly the type of person and fan you are. So lol.