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Depends on the players that we put in. If GUTLESS GUS plays Iva, Matic, Mikel, Pedro, Oscar then, cant be bothered.

FUCK YOU SPURS. GET IN GUYS!!!! What a performance from EDEN!!! Brilliant.

This fucking embarassment is on you and only YOU. Just FUCK OFF. Fire him and give holland the management for the last games. Shambles.

This is Chelsea??? NO. Hopeless. What an Embarassment. The players, the management, the board, the owner. I am going to Boo them at the end of the game.

EMBARASSMENT!!!!

I cant see what the better state is right now? We are not relegated, thats the only positive. We are directionless for the next season, I am sure any decent manager would atleast have made RLC a definite starter for the remaining season as well as a bright spot to go with in the next. I give respect to Guss for 2008. I give respect to Benitez for 2013. I just cant give any respect to guss for this tenure. The only reason his team selections were ever any different from Jose's was when we had Zouma, JT, Matic, Willian, Hazard all injured and he was literally forced to play young players for once. If guss deserves respect for this tenure then so do all the players who have continously given half-hearted useless performance to make this the worst season since i can remember. Lets just hope, this is not the precedent set by guss for the future managers to get respect.

I should be happy that we are going to play with 2 DMs at my own back yard against my biggest rivals while keeping our best attacking talent on the bench. And this is when we dont even need the points. We have nothing to play for except give the crowd some entertain. Yes my man... I should be jumping around in Glee.

GUTLESS hiddink strikes AGAIN. Cant wait for him to piss off. The worst tenure from any manager I have seen at chelsea. I hope the moral police are not out there today.

Mate, I get what you are saying but would like to start my post with a bit of a disagreement. Please dont compare Cesc to Oscar. Yes, Cesc has his faults. Glaring, frustrating, mind numbing faults but the guy is also a joy to watch when things are going right. He is a player who can be a match changer on his day and his technical ability when given space and time is almost second to none. You just compared this guy to one of the most hopelessly, devoid of any talent player who actually makes me pull out my hair everytime I see him on the pitch. Please dont. Lets not compare Oscar to ANY player otherwise we will end up re calling marko marin, in case Oscar is the player who sets the bar. Now to cesc. There is plenty of ways to go around the rebuilding. If we go to the "expectations for next season" thread (or something on the similar lines), then we can see 2 broad categories. I would call them as - 1. Longhaul, 2 Instant Success. Both of these have their pros and cons. Are we over-rating the youth? Are our youth really worth a shot and having 6/7 guys not only in the squad (RLC, Ake, Andreas, Baker, Kenedy, Traore, musonda along with young players like Baba, Zouma) but actually a massive part in deciding the season? Or should we go down the lets just buy for now and deal with the consequences after 2 years. Personally, I am willing to take the risk. Yes we might end up like Spurs and pool, But their also a chance of our own youth players playing and giving their all for the shirt. Coming just to cesc. He is one of the highest earners in the team. Do you think that he would accept a bench role? Would he be successful on the bench? I might be wrong here, but he is a player who needs the team to play around him rather than him to come on the field and perform a bit-part Kalou role. He seems to be a player who can only work when the things are built around him. He needs the ball on his feet to thrive. I honestly dont think their is any other way. Otherwise, It would almost be like having Mata in the team but putting him on the wing and not letting him be your main play-maker. This is my main issue with cesc. If cesc stays, the only role he can be of any use to us is if he is our main playmaker. Which to me makes no sense for the numerous reason I gave in the first post. I can see us having another good season with him as our lynchpin and then getting screwed massive the year later and again in the market looking for a creative CM while berating RLC for not "developing" or "having the right attitude" despite him having no play time. I know what i want is bordering on impossible considering the board and the owner that are running this club to the ground. I also know that cesc will most probably be here come the next season. But a fan can dream.

I disagree a little on Wenger and Arsenal. Arsenal are not title contenders because of wenger's pathetic transfer dealing, not because of his youth policy. The youth has given arsenal some real gems like Bellerin and Coq. The problem is that even now wenger refuses to acknowledge the problem - A world class striker and a world class CB pairing. They have giroud upfront and koscienly is defending for 2 people at the back. Thats their problem. Blaming it on youth is incorrect. Look at spurs, They promoted youth and are today title pretenders. Kane, Alli, Rose, walker, Mason. But i do agree that "instant" success and youth integration dont go hand in hand. But I am a regular at SB and I can vouch for a majority of 42,000 people saying that they will happily take a 2/3 year exile if it means having youth integration, style of play, identity and stability.

Yes I do. I watch football for the game. The game that includes Defending and attacking. I played as a Center Back for my University and a couple of very lower leagues and I appreciate the art of defending. I would rather watch Atletico Madrid vs Bayern Munich a 100 times over than watching City vs Madrid for all their sleak passing and attacking. Mate, go and read my post again. "open attacking football". There is a difference between attacking football and silly open football the way Liverpool played under wenger or arsenal used to play a couple of years ago. We all know how that ends. I am sorry, but this is just hogwash. Chelsea in 09/10 have several crazy "attacking" records. We fans at the bridge appreciate attacking as well as defensive football and mostly football which shows the players giving their all. And while we would love to be the attacking force that we were in the first half of 2014/15, we accept that our squad is lacking GLARINGLY in attacking quality. Instead of trying to get a bunch of attacking players, the need of the hour is to build from the back. There is no point having Hazard, costa, willian upfront while having Ivanovic and Cahill and the back being protected by the likes of cesc. Thats not attacking football, thats suicide. And like i said, while the people at the bridge appreciate attacking football, we also appreciate basic common sense. We need to play to our strengths of the players. We do get some pacy, ball playing defenders along with the likes of Radja and Gundogan, I wont be one bit surprised watching us play slick, good , swift passing attacking football. We are not a great football side. Despite the money that has been pumped into the club, we are not great, we are not elite, we are not even the best club in london currently. What we need to do is to get back to the drawing board. Get an identity. Understand the type of players we have and the type of youth players we have and give us an identity based on that rather than be reliant of roman's big fat cheques. Thats not youth integration then. Thats just filling up the HG spot, something we have been doing for the last 10 years. No thank you. I want some academy products from the most successful academy in the world to be a part of the first team in the coming seasons.

Agree about Tibo but massively disagree about Lukaku. Yes, Lukaku "asked to leave" but why did he do that? Was it because Jose thought that getting a 33 year old semi retired etoo from russia was better than trusting a player with lukaku's potential in a season where jose repeatedly said things like "We wont win the PL", "we have young eggs","we are small horses" and all the weird things that he said.

integration of youth and "depth in all positions" simply does not go hand in hand. I personally want first team upgrades over Oscar, pedro, cesc, GC, JT. Sell all of these players along with falcao and god help us if we actually buy Pato. Gks - Thibaut, Begovic (HG), Blackman(HG) Def - Zouma, Benatia, Andreas (HG), Azpi, Iva, Ake (HG), Baba, Clarke-Salter(HG) CMs - Matic, Radja, RLC (HG), Baker (HG), Pasalic, Gundogan?Pjanic?Isco?James? (any good creative midfielder with not a hopeless defensive workrate and liability like Cesc and also decent ball retention skills and who can play at a consistently high level for more than 4 months). Forwards - Costa, Hazard, Willian, Traore (HG), Kenedy (HG), Musonda (HG) If some players want to leave like Courtois then so be it. Sell them for twice their worth (and good riddance too) and buy a good replacement like Butland. With having youth players as back ups, this will surely mean good youth integration. With no european distractions, we should get Top 6 if this squad plays upto their potential. I dont want to play open attacking football. But i want to have an identity. Look at ATM for example. A brilliant team. That is what we should have turned to. That is how we should have been playing right now. And I would love to have a play like that. Those players play with their hearts. I have not seen us doing that since the 2011-12 CL campaign (just CL we were pathetic in PL).

Who would you suggest in this case. For me, I would hold on to Hazard for this season, no matter what. So I am not talking about swap deals. I am a 100% against keeping cesc for another season, which would mean getting a creative-ish midfielder to partner Matic and Radja in a midfield 3. Pjanic is one option, but honestly he looks like a 3 years younger cesc. Isco and James are wonderful players and just a year or 2 ago they were the next big things. Another option is Gotze but he seems to be facing a similar fate as Isco/james. Mate, I have to massively disagree with the last portion of your post. We got Eden because we won the CL and were in CL for the next season. The signings before that were that of moses and marin, if I remember correctly. So Hazard was a freak signing, not the other way round.

Please NO. Radja can very well play the DM role in case we need a 2nd DM. Baker should be in that midfield option.