cosmicway

It's Olympic stadium, not Panathinaikos stadium !

I don't go because they ask you to be a club member to give you a ticket in this one. So I 'm watching like contepmporary Nero. Tell us about the 1971 story. What do you know from Serbian sources ?

With a happy-go-lucky performance like against Servette Chelsea will lose.

Panathinaikos - Chelsea B' in one hour. About incidents I wonder if there will be a clean record.

She's winning the popular vote. Trump bookie price for popular vote is 2.87 - outsider. But the swing states seem to have gone Turmp's way. US predictions don't change so easily unlike UK. In the UK there have been at least three elections in recent years that have changed hands in the last two days.

This census info obviously includes parts of Jordan and the West Bank which they were going to have but they 're not because they are going to use it as a rocket base against wafer thin Israel to the west,

They were not called Palestinians though. They were called various tribes. It is possible Nasser did n't want them to be called anything to keep them out of Egypt. These people were living together with the Jews but were never at peace. Some relative peace existed under Ottoman rule. In 1941 Hitler planned to send his fallschirmjagger there but the fallschirmjagger were decimated in Crete (Crete fall but the fallschirmjagger were destroyed). Would have been a most daring operation since Hitler did not have naval forces, so he abandoned the idea - expected to reach there through the Egypt route. After the war Jews and Arabs could have lived together there but the Arabs declared war. In Egypt it was still Farouk, the king, who went to war and then Nasser continued the hostilities.

Despoina

I forgot Liana Kanellis. Deputy secratary of the communist party. Diehard Panathinaikos. She is strange. She is lesbian but also devout Christian. Started life as the secretary of Panathinaikos - in their den, Armatolon and Klefton street. Then she decided the communist party was for her.

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No club I know of is affiliated to any political party. Supporters are all kinds of things. But we are talking about the ultras. Show me something from Panathinaikos fanbase that looks remotely left. They are birdies.

I don't fancy the present Panathinaikos team. But they eliminated Ajax. Traditionally they are a hard kicking team and they like sending some opponents to hospital. AEK - Olympiakos don't do that.

The region was called Palestine under the British mandate. Palestine it was named by the Romans. The Arab tribes living there were not calling themselves Palestinians. A few years after the six day war Yassir Arafat invented the Palestinians.

The so called Palestinians wanted to just kill all the Jews since ever and they were at least just as fanatical antisemites as the nazis. Allies with Hitler. Hitler made some use of them in the war. He was kept from using them more and create an Arab force to fight alongside Rommel by Mussolini. Mussolini had a thing with the Libyans and his general Badoglio was mass murdering them (n.b. Badoglio was the one who surrendered in 1943 and hence acquitted for his war crimes), Because of the Italian objections an unhappy Hitler postponed the creation of the Arab battalion indefinitely and after 1943 his forces were of course defeated in Africa and gone from there. After the war Nasser was usiing nazi advisers to help him build rockets against Israel - the Soviet advisers appeared in the scene much later, in the sixties.

I agree wikipedia are strict. Once I helped write an article about a musician of the Greek national philharmonic. It stayed for a while then they took it off - because not enough stuff was known about him in the musical world. But they would n't take down a submission of the Arab countries The term apartheid as I stipulated does not apply for hostile subpopulations even if the dominant population are the wrong doers and we, the outsiders, think of them as the wrongdoers because it does n't make sense. To make this into small coins, suppose we talk about a commie in Greece in 1949. He is not in the mountains, he is in a town. The police chase him allover the place and if he asks anybody for a job the answer is no. The commies are right, the nationalists are in the wrong, says we, the two KKE comrades. But the commies were firing mortars against the nationalists at the time. Therefore what ... apartheid ? You write whatever takes your fancy and the Pals cause would have been won by now if they used peaceful methods, decades ago. Suppose the six day war of 1967 has happened and we are in 1970 with the plane hijackings by that woman, Leila Khaled. She was n't hurting anybody though. So they could have switched to peaceful negotiations and win their case, Europe had become sympathetic. But no - they went for Munich.

Well, if you are as a keeper trying to be like Cesc and set up attacks, the possibility of a steal is always there, I say let's do away with this type of play for safety's sake.

This is a wikipediia article writen by pro-Palestinians. The term apartheid is reserved for people who are subjected to race discrimination. It does not apply to hostile subpopulations. It does not apply to hostile subpopulations even if the dominant population is the wrongdoer, because this is not what the word means. I 'm willing to take Trump to court for the cats and dogs because what he said is imo common libel. But the definition of apartheid is what it is, not what you like.

There is no "apartheid" regime in Israel. The term "apartheid" in relation to a hostile subpopulation is meaningless as it is also misleading. All the Arabs hate Israel, to varying degrees. A Moroccan or a Tunesian is less likely to go there and become a kamikazi bomber, one from Gaza is trained from childhood to do that. But they are all anti-Israel, the same as German nazis were anti-jewish. Outside the Arab world, the latter day anti-semitism is a product of antiamericanism. At one point comintern decided to side with Nasser and the "rejection front", so the entire fan base followed.

The Christians dominated the western world and the middle east in the early centuries despite the persecution. Why ? There were reasons. - freed the slaves - introduced equality doctrine, alms - Christians were for peaceful coexistence of nations - ancient gods were dicredited, Elefsis mysteries - oracles were proved fakes These ideas were perverted of course with the passage of time, wars did not end, there was no equality, only white slaves were freed. But life was better than with the ancients, is the general consensus. Christians had a strict moral code, absurdly strict - Cromwell for example, Spanish inquisition. How they did that ? The logical answer is it preexisted, would n't be a bright idea to try and change it, they adopted it. So this then debunks the idea of freewheeling gay societies before christianity. It's all a misinterpretation, politically inspired.

Falmeraier theory.

The idea of ancient Greeks gays owes itself to a) German early nazis of the 19th century, b) Stalin and his friend Trofim Lysenko, c) the thieving British museum curators.

Maybe. So it was in Africa, China and among the Cherokee Indians. It's an ancient thing and the degrees of acceptance-tolerance vary. But it was not the norm nor was it allowed in ancient Greece.

We are talking about historical evidence and yes the early christians did n't like the ancients at all (they were sort of contemporaries then). Do you know that the descriptions "Hellene" or "Greek" were used to intimidate ? True the emperors changed the language from Latin to Greek and -progressively- the image of Greco-christianism was created, but not so in the 4th-5th centuries. Towards the end of the Byzantine empire in the 15th century the emperor still retained the title "emperor of the Romans" while Byzantium and Greece were really one thing, but in the early centuries even though Hellas was always a province the Hellenes were more or less identified as dodecatheist pagans. So they accused the dodecatheists for all shorts of things. Emperor Theodosius is the one who destroyed Alexander's tomb in Alexandria it is believed and there was also the stoning to death of Greek philosopher-mathematician Hypatia. In Athens the temple of Zeus was destroyed. That was more impressive than the Acropolis I believe. It was on flat ground while the Acropolis is overlooking the city but must have been more impressive. Those are things the early christians -unhappily- did. So they also concocted a homosexuality myth for the ancients but it is a false myth. This was later picked up by various anti-greek scholars, in 19th century Austria and Germany mainly. Also Stalin and Trotsky. Those two were virulent anti-Greeks but Stalin changed his mind after the war. Also other absurd individuals such as the British museum trustees who stole the Parthenon marbles.

The ancient Athenians not the Jews were punishing by death. There is no evidence whatsoever that those famous ancient pairs of friends had sexual relationships.