

Viper22
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So many outlets are going to look stupid at the end of this. Wherever he goes a lot of people are going to have made false guessing comments. A bit sick of this all now really. Would much rather us sign other players who I have mentioned before but he wouldn't be a bad option if the others aren't available. I just want this whole convoluted bullshit saga to finish now.
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Even if we sign Reus, Bale and Varane this transfer window this news about the stadium and these fantastic pictures will still be the best thing i've heard about this summer. Gorgeous, unique and iconic. Amazing.
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I am 23 and have been to 12 countries in the world but the furthest West and East i've been is Gran Canaria and Belgium respectively (purely by chance). They've all been in that narrow band. I have played rugby with 2 Rugby Premiership players, cricket with an England international and football with (also friends with) the lead singer of a band that's been played on radio 1 and have performed on the main stage at the Reading and Leeds festival.
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And I am a black belt in Tae-Kwon-Do!
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Goodbye Petr, and thanks for all the memories, all the saves and all the trophies. You'll always be a Chelsea legend and Chelsea treat their legends well (even if they lie, we still have the respect to clap and not boo them) and you sir have been a model professional over the last 11 years so thankyou. As CHOULO has said though, I can't honestly wish him any luck with his job whatsoever but I hope he at least retires a happy man. And as RoyalBlues has said, this is for Mr Abramovich: You made the choice to let Petr do this, and that's honourable and respectable. But we now need to sign at least 1 world class player to makes up for this. Any of Reus/Pogba/Koke/Bale/Messi would do. Please don't just give us Falcao, Green and Dembele or something, that would not be cool after this.
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And you just saying he's better does make it true!!! xD. I didn't realise it was you when I first replied and was gobsmacked about how anyone can think Oscar is even as good as Turan let alone much better but now Pizy (thanks mate) has pointed out who i'm talking to it all makes sense. I could give you all of the reasons why he's better but I get the distinct impression it would be a waste of my time because it wouldn't change your opinion because you're either deliberately trolling about the whole Oscar love-in or you're so genuinely obssessed with him in your own fan-boy way that you can't look at things to do with him impartially anyway. So either way I think i'll leave it here!
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I sincerely hope you're kidding.
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He's much better than Oscar currently, that's a given. He's a very good player who could take some of the creative strain off the back of Fabregas and is a proven big game player so I would be happy with him. Not as happy as I would be if we signed Reus/Bale/Isco/Pogba/Koke but if none of them are available then I guess he's our next best option. If we get him for around £25M then it would be a decent price, any higher than £35M and I would feel a bit uncomfortable.
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Lol the England youth team taking after their senior counterparts in as much as they're being a pathetic group of losers.
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Maybe not, but my point was that getting one of those 2 would have made this transfer a good deal for all sides. As it stands it's brilliant for Arsenal and Cech and bad for us. The club now need to make up for it by bringing in a bonafide superstar IMO.
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The only way it was going to sit ok with the fans that Cech was going to Arsenal is if 1 of the following 3 happened: a - We got an exorbitant transfer fee (>£20M) b - We got a great HG player in exchange (Walcott, Ox) c - We make at least 1 fantastic World Class signing (Reus/Koke/Pogba/Messi/Bale) The club would have known this and so I believe they should have pushed harder for A or B. But, not point crying over spilled milk, it's now up to the club to fulfill C for the fans to keep us 2 steps ahead of Arsenal and the rest of the PL.
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Yeah you're right, but I'd say Cech should be at least £12M compared to the £18M for De Gea considering that while De Gea's bonus was that he was young, Cech's bonus is that he's proven world class and remember it was 4 years ago too, prices have come up since then.
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If De Gea was bought for £18M at the age of 20 (4 years ago) and the numbers being bandied around for him lately for Real Madrid are anywhere near true then I feel like £11M for a proven WC GK with 1 year left on his contract is a fair price. And that's my point, £11M is a fair price. We shouldn't be fair to our rivals because they aren't fair to us. Overcharge them or make sure we get something in return.
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The RVP is a good comparison for my point tbh, Cech is World Class now and RVP was world class back then (albeit injury prone) and both had 1 year left on his contract. Difference here being Arsenal got £24M for RVP!!!! If we get only £11M for Cech in comparison you can see how we've been mugged off by selling so cheaply to a rival. If we squeezed even £20M out of Arsenal for Cech then i'd be a bit happier.
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Not over happy with it but I respect Petr's wishes. I just wish (like other people have said) that we fought a bit harder to get an extortionate transfer fee or Walcott/Ox in exchange because we all know that if this was the other way around Arsenal would never have let him go so easily. I feel like for £11M we're being mugged off big time, selling to a rival. It seemed though that only Mourinho fought to keep him or get what we wanted in exchange but I just guess we'll have to accept it. This will be all well and good if Arsenal don't make any more great signings like this one, if they do they could become a danger in the title race. It will unbearable if they win the Community Shield with him in goal and will be even worse if they somehow managed to win the league or something. We would have no-one but ourselves to blame in that case. We've been respectful and that is good, I just hope that we don't get punished for being so because we'll look like naiive tools if we do.
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If he's a replacement for Mikel leaving then it would be a good bit of business, especially seeing as he's HG and would likely cost less money to buy than we could sell Mikel for (so we'd actually make money).
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Look, I know everyone loves a good bit of Torres bashing, but to not accept that he was that damn good in the 07-10 period of time is hilarious. If you'd actually watched him play during that time then you would never be saying this so all I can quote at you is stats and advise you to go and watch some PL games from that time period and see just how influential he was. (Also note that he did all this playing for a Liverpool team who, while they were the best they have been since the 80s, were still not that good compared to Eto'o who played for a Barcelona team that scored for fun). They were all very good in that time period, obviously, but Torres and Villa were better than Eto'o and a debate could be made for which was the better as they were both incredible but personally i'd plump for Torres being better as he did it in a higher quality league. Torres: In the 07-08 season he scored 33 goals in all competitions (at just about a goal every 90 minutes he played). In the Summer of 08 he led Spain to the Euro 2008 title while scoring the winning (and only) goal in the final. In the 08-09 season he was unfortunately injured a fair bit but still scored 17 goals in all competitions. In the 09-10 season he scored 22 goals in all competitions. Total of 72 goals in 114 games over those 3 seasons. [That's a goal every 1.58 games]. Eto'o: Scored 18 goals in 28 games in the 07-08 season. Scored 36 goals in 52 games in the 08-09 season. Scored 16 goals in 48 games in the 09-10 season. Total of 70 goals in 128 games over those 3 seasons (for a far better team in a much easier league). [That's a goal every 1.83 games]. Villa: Scored 22 goals in 40 games in the 07-08 season. Scored 31 goals in 43 games in the 08-09 season. Scored 28 goals in 45 games in the 09-10 season. Total of 81 goals in 128 games over those 3 seasons. [That's a goal every 1.58 games]. So as you can see stats-wise Torres scored as many goals per game as Villa and they were both markedly better than Eto'o (who was playing for a ridiculously good team).
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Maybe not that realistic, but it has to be a desire and an aim of his.
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Alderweireld would be a great signing who could one day be a great player for the club. If we signed him in a trade for Luis we would then have this (N.B i'm not happy with Azpi at LB but Jose if never going to drop Ivan so i've just come to accept Azpi as a LB): 1st: ---Ivanovic---Aldeweireld---Terry---Azpi--- 2nd: ---Kalas/Omeruo/Christensen---Zouma---Cahill---Ake--- Moving on to when Terry retires (HAS to be at the end of this season, he can't keep being this good forever can he?) and Ivan's legs run out: 1st: ---Azpi---Aldeweireld---Zouma---New LB--- 2nd: ---New RB---Omeruo---Kalas---Ake--- See? All worked out . I think he'd fit really well and give us a young player who has proven himself at many levels and has a lot of experience for someone his age.
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It's more Trophies and More money vs A hell of a lot more playing time and so more chance to play for England.
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If we have to sell Cech to Arsenal then getting Ox in return would be the best course of action. Would be a great signing - he's young, English and actually relatively underrated. Hopefully his injuries would be behind him once Eva got a hold of him!
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Member of the Year awards - the winners!
Viper22 replied to BlueLion.'s topic in Announcements & Support
Thanks for the votes everyone. Glad WHS won over me, he very much deserves it . Thanks for voting me into a close 2nd though all . -
A very good point and excellent news. Worked well for us last season to get our hardest games out of the way as early as possible, we don't want them in the run in.