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What are you on about? all you've been doing is slating the club and manager season through without any basic logic. When did I say that exactly, and in what context. The latter being more important.

The article was highly falsified. His dad denied such claims along with the claim. More agenda based articles.

agree to disagree then.

Yeah Jose did say that in the press conference. But do people still believe what he says in a PC? Even if we beat Liverpool, they still can win the League , right? (I'm not really sure, I can stand corrected) . I would disagree with that. It started cause of Rafa but it's grown to become a lot deeper in that.

Don't think any youngsters will be playing . He's going to a stadium that hates him. Title race or not, he wants one over them.

Watch how Hazard, Oscar and Willian start...

Probably will only stay when put in a game such as yesterday. Maybe Jose might just keep him if he feels we'll be playing this way in selective matches come next season.

He's not wholly responsible for our loss. But he did infact play a huge part in it. We aren't helping ourselves with what we have upfront but the referee's don't have to make matters worse. The wrong penalty, Matic/Terry's goal, the hand-ball incident and Rami's red. Pathetic officiating. Replay's aren't there is a whole different topic altogether when you've seen referee's get such calls right before. What makes it worse is that it hasn't happened just once. Rui Faria went 'nuts' for a simple reason that everything seemed to go against us. Right now he's at home thinking about how stupid he was. Hindsight. As I said, put myself in his place. I would have ripped a seat and thrown at him, only to feel guilty later. It's human nature. All well and good to say something about a person in that situation while we sit here, but what he did was passionate. It showed how much he cared. Once again I'm not saying what he did was right, but at the point of moment, it didn't seem wrong either. People don't like his PC's, I get it. There are different kinds of people. I on the other hand know where it's coming from. A lot of past managers have used it. Paisley and Clough prime examples. That's where Jose gets his tribalism from. There was that documentary called " Blue Revolution", if IIRC, Mark Lipton talked about it quite well. That's why I understand why older Chelsea fans, especially those who have witnessed the pre-Abramovich era, connect with Jose so much. We aren't going to criticize objectively, that's just not what club-supporting fans do.

Where did I see he was responsible for it? Yes we didn't take our chances but if we had a proper referee we wouldn't have lost the game either. Conspiracy. Even I can say that I'm sure Mike Riley has told all the referee's to favor Liverpool and make sure teams against Chelsea get penalties. That was low and uncalled for. I didn't say anything about magic, I just put myself in that situation. Would love to know how you logically came to that conclusion that I saw ''magic'' in every little thing he does.

Agree in hindsight, but if I were in his shoes, I would have probably done the same. Wouldn't think twice about it.

I explained that to the other guy. It was bound to be expected with the strike force we have. We brought in a stop gap with Eto'o and it's bloody remarkable how decent that worked out. but I disagree with the first part. If things are going blatantly against you, then it's something to worry about. It's hard enough already with us screwing up chances, but they make it worse.

I was talking about the Matic and Terry incident. hence why I didn't say 3-1. Not really considering our defense is one of the best at home when it comes to tight situations such as this.

I'm not saying we have to praise ourselves either. This was bound to be expected as we weren't able to pick out a proper striker for this season. But we would actually have had atleast a close 2-1 win if the referee had his mind set right. We would have grinded out a result just like against Swansea (where we also missed a bucket load of chances) .

People confusing officiating with a poor game. Just cause we had a poor game infront of goal doesn't mean officiating needs to be done by someone who's suffering with autism. Guaranteed we made things worse for ourselves but that does NOT justify the pathetic state of refereeing.

exactly. they need a good public image and so on. Chelsea doesn't. We're kinda like the exact opposite.

I didn't imply that the sacking had anything to do with it though. Sorry if it came out that way. He's like an irrational fan. For him, there is no point in being objective. I like it that way tbh.

Jose said what we all wanted to say.. He literally does symbolify what the club is all about. Us against the world if you want me to make it cheesy. If we wanted someone who could speak well in PC's, then Carlo would have been here. He's literally the lovechild of a PR maniac and an idealist.

aah, completely missed the joke there. thanks though.

I have no idea how to use flash however. :/

I put bothm of them at the same level, Arsenal a bit above. So we forget who Jose bought then? Sorry, that's not the same analogy I made. No competition in Europe either? I feel the same about yours.

Ranieri didn't make it easier for him. Weren't United still going very strong? Mancini might have done decent too but Jose did the treble, so that's nullified too, I've said that Carlo's done decent and not that it's completely because of Mourinho that Real are still being rather successful ( wouldn't be if they lost the title and got knocked out off Europe). That would be stupid of me. I've not discredited him off his work. I've just said that it is much easier for him. The truth. Jose had to face Pep Guardiola and a rising Atletico Madrid.

Jose brought out Varane. He also gave Casemiro his debut. For all we know he could be playing this season if Jose was the manager and was facing injury problems that Carlo has faced. Are we forgetting that? In his own words about Jese : "We play with a different system, they have another model. There are Castilla players that play in positions that do not exist in the first team, like Jese Rodriguez, who plays as a ‘nine and a half’. " Jese would have struggled anyway to make it through, but eventually would have. Carlo's also having it easy not because he's done an immense job. He's been decent but its also due to Barcelona's failing, largely due to Mourinho's prescence in Madrid.

hmm definitely the big ones. took me a while too. i'll make sure to keep it below 4 next time. Sorry for the inconvenience to everyone !

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