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Jason

Champions League thread

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Look at some of the teams that are in it: Inter, Ajax, Napoli, Athletico..etc We will be lucky to win it and will have to give it our all in order to do so. If you are saying that we should not try to win it because it is not a tough competition, should drop out of the FA cup as well? Because EL is at least 10 times tougher to win.

Would prefer the FA Cup over this TBH..

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Unsure how to feel about this competition.

Its another trophy to win i guess , but i would not sacrifice a top 4 spot for it.

I do think some of our fans worry to much about what rival fans think. Both Manchester clubs had this happen to them last year. Look how well they are doing now , this sort of thing will make our players more determined to make it out of the group next year (if we are in it)

Getting into the CL has become such a must nowadays and I am sick of worrying about it , I just want to enjoy the football.

Look on the bright side at least you don't need a sky subscription to watch Chelsea in Europe now :ph34r:

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Because trying to win it means that you have to play key players in it which means that they will have to sit out some Premier League games to rest. To me, the Europa League is as if there were a second Olympic Games where people who failed to qualify from the first games and people who failed to make the cut in early competition faced off. The games will still be fun and winning is better than not, but it's a ridiculous tournament. even if you win, it means you are the best team in Europe except for the best teams.,,The Premier League is the highest priority. We absolutely need to finish top-4 and that's still a very attainable goal. The ramifications f we fail to make the CL are massive.

I agree with this.

It'd be nice to win it but the focus has to be on finishing Top Four in the prem. Look at what happened when Robbie played some of our most important players against United in the League Cup - we looked lethargic away to Swansea.

We have to treat this like it's the League Cup in many ways.

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------Turnbull------

Paulo--Ivan--Gary---Bert

---Ramires---Romeu----

Moses--Piazon---Marin

--------Sturridge------

That would not be a bad team to use in these games, we might also add a couple players in January that will add more depth to the squad.

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No we won the cup winners cup twice. Completely different competition.

I thought EL was the merge of Winners Cup and UEFA Cup (I could be wrong). It has characteristics of both competitions...

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Why? We get West Brom in the FA Cup 4th round and then face Napoli/Inter in EL. Lose both and Benitez gets the sack. :Goober:

And who will replace him? Keep sacking managers like we are doing, We'll have no-one to choose from to replace them.

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Unbeleivably spoilt some people. The 'low ' of Europa isnt that big a deal. Winning the 2nd Div at Grimsby was sublime, and if someone had said we'd be Champions of Europe 20 years later I'd have thought they'd necked acid or were just a cunt.

Some of the more newer Chelsea fans, whether that be though age or the success over the last 15 years, are starting to assume that we have a divine right to be winning trophies year in and year out. Truth is, its obviously getting harder with each passing year. Just need to look at the wedge Citeh have spent, where has it taken them in Europe recently? Both in the Champions League and the Europa League. Our record in the Champs league over the last 10 years has been outstanding really. Very unlucky in Moscow, unlucky at Anfield seven years ago.

With the amount of Multimedia and news archives available nowadays, the "newer" fans, as welcome as they are. Should dig back and discover our routes. Was only 25 years ago that the talk was the merging of three clubs (Fulham Park Rangers) with which would have seen the demise of our club. All due to money and miss-management. The last few years have been blinding, no doubt, but I equally enjoyed the 70's, 80's and 90's, for vastly different reasons. We are a unique club with a unique heritage. The newer fans would do well to explore that. It goes well beyond the Chelsea museum.

Not wanting to sound patronising in any way, but there really is much more to our club.

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Some of the more newer Chelsea fans, whether that be though age or the success over the last 15 years, are starting to assume that we have a divine right to be winning trophies year in and year out. Truth is, its obviously getting harder with each passing year. Just need to look at the wedge Citeh have spent, where has it taken them in Europe recently? Both in the Champions League and the Europa League. Our record in the Champs league over the last 10 years has been outstanding really. Very unlucky in Moscow, unlucky at Anfield seven years ago.

With the amount of Multimedia and news archives available nowadays, the "newer" fans, as welcome as they are. Should dig back and discover our routes. Was only 25 years ago that the talk was the merging of three clubs (Fulham Park Rangers) with which would have seen the demise of our club. All due to money and miss-management. The last few years have been blinding, no doubt, but I equally enjoyed the 70's, 80's and 90's, for vastly different reasons. We are a unique club with a unique heritage. The newer fans would do well to explore that. It goes well beyond the Chelsea museum.

Not wanting to sound patronising in any way, but there really is much more to our club.

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KEEP posting Changingman ...ignore our new troll ..I think it is Justin

Oh I think he's well aware that I couldnt give a flying fuck about him mate :wank2:

Not entirely sure what I've done to upset you two guys. I apologised for my misunderstanding with 'changingman' and the only disagreements I've had with zolaeyes have been about Benitez.

If my posting that sketch upset you, I apologise. It was a light-hearted joke.

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Not entirely sure what I've done to upset you two guys. I apologised for my misunderstanding with 'changingman' and the only disagreements I've had with zolaeyes have been about Benitez.

If my posting that sketch upset you, I apologise. It was a light-hearted joke.

I didnt bother viewing your joke ...just assumed it was a smart ass reply to a serious post

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And who will replace him? Keep sacking managers like we are doing, We'll have no-one to choose from to replace them.

Obviously the troll face appeared in that post was just for decoration...

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Some of the more newer Chelsea fans, whether that be though age or the success over the last 15 years, are starting to assume that we have a divine right to be winning trophies year in and year out. Truth is, its obviously getting harder with each passing year. Just need to look at the wedge Citeh have spent, where has it taken them in Europe recently? Both in the Champions League and the Europa League. Our record in the Champs league over the last 10 years has been outstanding really. Very unlucky in Moscow, unlucky at Anfield seven years ago.

With the amount of Multimedia and news archives available nowadays, the "newer" fans, as welcome as they are. Should dig back and discover our routes. Was only 25 years ago that the talk was the merging of three clubs (Fulham Park Rangers) with which would have seen the demise of our club. All due to money and miss-management. The last few years have been blinding, no doubt, but I equally enjoyed the 70's, 80's and 90's, for vastly different reasons. We are a unique club with a unique heritage. The newer fans would do well to explore that. It goes well beyond the Chelsea museum.

Not wanting to sound patronising in any way, but there really is much more to our club.

I dont see where you are trying to get...

Just because you expirienced it, does not mean you have the right to think our young fans know nothing about our history. You realise that with today's technology anyone can gather enough quality (not talking about wikipedia) information to be familiar with our history. I have met 20 years old fanatic abroad fans that know a lot more about Chelsea than 40-50 years old English fans. Worst than that, what does it have to do with EL?

It has absolutely nothing to do with being old or young. We are not counting history, we are analysing our current situation and it should not correspond to an EL Qualification. The amount of money we have invested in the last decate should have made it an obligation to fight for UCL (which we have done every single year). I realise we are in transition mode and we fell with dignity, but trying to make EL an important competition for the current status of the club is laughable.

YES! Before Roman, it was better than we usually fought for, but at this moment our inspirations have rise significantly. No one is diminishing or forgetting our past, but football is a momentarily science. Back in time, this would not be close to failure. The present (and money) shows us an exit in the group stage is considerated a failure, though.

Europa League is a very welcomed trophy, but it should not be placed as an important objective. It takes away your focus out of EPL, it does not bring you money, it can be shameful (if we lose for a pub team), etc.

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Atletico 1-0 down against Viktoria Plzen. If they lose, they will be one of our potential opponents for the round of 32. :blink:

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Dont know why people are thinking this is a walk in the park, acting as if we've won it already.

Still have to get passed the likes of Liverpool, Napoli, Inter and god help us, Athl. Madrid.

We should really treat this like the Champions League and play the same team as we would normally.

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Dont know why people are thinking this is a walk in the park, acting as if we've won it already.

Still have to get passed the likes of Liverpool, Napoli, Inter and god help us, Athl. Madrid.

We should really treat this like the Champions League and play the same team as we would normally.

But it isn't the Champions League and the priority has to be the league. If we have a league game coming up the weekend after a Europa League game then we have to rest the main players for it.

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But it isn't the Champions League and the priority has to be the league. If we have a league game coming up the weekend after a Europa League game then we have to rest the main players for it.

Can safely say that we aren't going to win the league. A top four finish plus Europa league title is possible by playing the first team.

I'm all for giving the younger lads a run, but if we want to be contenders for this trophy fringe players aren't gonna be enough, unless we are just gonna treat this comp as an excuse to use them rather than winning another trophy. Its one or the other, there are some good teams in the competition.

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I dont see where you are trying to get...

Just because you expirienced it, does not mean you have the right to think our young fans know nothing about our history. You realise that with today's technology anyone can gather enough quality (not talking about wikipedia) information to be familiar with our history. I have met 20 years old fanatic abroad fans that know a lot more about Chelsea than 40-50 years old English fans. Worst than that, what does it have to do with EL?

It has absolutely nothing to do with being old or young. We are not counting history, we are analysing our current situation and it should not correspond to an EL Qualification. The amount of money we have invested in the last decate should have made it an obligation to fight for UCL (which we have done every single year). I realise we are in transition mode and we fell with dignity, but trying to make EL an important competition for the current status of the club is laughable.

YES! Before Roman, it was better than we usually fought for, but at this moment our inspirations have rise significantly. No one is diminishing or forgetting our past, but football is a momentarily science. Back in time, this would not be close to failure. The present (and money) shows us an exit in the group stage is considerated a failure, though.

Europa League is a very welcomed trophy, but it should not be placed as an important objective. It takes away your focus out of EPL, it does not bring you money, it can be shameful (if we lose for a pub team), etc.

We didn't "fail with dignity". We failed because we were shit throughout. Struggled away in Denmark, outclassed by Shaktar and horsed by Juve. Where is the dignity in that????

We beat a pub team last night, nothing more. Dignity, my arse.

Because we all have access to multimedia nowadays doesnt mean that everybody bothers to look back on the history of our club, the fabric of our club, The amount of kids running about Glasgow nowadays with Chelsea tops on is unreal. Could probably count on one hand the ones who actually care about what our club is, what it stands for..

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