Chelsea Officially Signed Willian

[Muzchap 8,966]

You say you are glad the club didnt decide to overpay for Cavani or any other possible target (DM,CM), but you are glad we are overpaying for Willian?

You cant say for others to be happy with something they dont agree on. You have all the right to back-up Mourinho and the board on this deal, I just wont because I think that having the resources doesnt mean we should use it in a not so wise manner...

Ok so we are all working on the assumption that it's the DM / CM position that's fucked and that's where we need replacements, along sight the strikers right...?

Well what happens if the problem is actually Mazacar - e.g it just doesn't work!!!

By signing 1 player for 30million we have saved ourselves the cost of 3 players (2 additional players and this transfer which we all thought would be Rooney)...

Just because Mata, Hazard and Oscar are great players - doesn't mean they can all work together in the same team at the same time - I think we became obsessed with trying to make it work and I personally do not think it does...

So I'm happy to explore other options

[Rmpr 8,977]

Ok so we are all working on the assumption that it's the DM / CM position that's fucked and that's where we need replacements, along sight the strikers right...?

Well what happens if the problem is actually Mazacar - e.g it just doesn't work!!!

By signing 1 player for 30million we have saved ourselves the cost of 3 players (2 additional players and this transfer which we all thought would be Rooney)...

Just because Mata, Hazard and Oscar are great players - doesn't mean they can all work together in the same team at the same time - I think we became obsessed with trying to make it work and I personally do not think it does...

So I'm happy to explore other options

Mazacar doesnt work, and that is why I have been saying Mourinho will drop Mata for KDB so the trio can have balance!

And yes, I agree that if you have the opportunity to add more quality you do so. But you cant argue you first tackle your big issues before polishing what is already good.

You are a game designer, right? Do you improve your good graphics if you have problems with gameplay (or vice-versa)?

However, I will be honest with you, I am terrified to death Mata will be used to land Rooney if we aproach the last day of the transfer window and Manure still havent sold him to us. I think I would literately shad a tear if that happens...

[Rom2013 446]

If you put "Willian vs" on youtube you can see some of his games against russian teams.

For example this one against CSKA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrQNnj38XrA

[Jase 43,479]

Tottenham express outrage after Chelsea hijack Willian transfer

[jonaaibosk 191]

Youtube is possibly the second worst scouting tool known to man.

Fair enough, we all know that Willian is a good player, but by putting a few clips together you can make an average player look world class. You can also make a player who has had a decent game, look like he has had a great game.

Here is a prime example, my team, Dundee United have a very good player, Gary Mackay-Steven. This video makes him look like a world beater, when realistically he is just a stand out SPL player who could possibly at best end up at middle of the road Prem team at best.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Tottenham express outrage after Chelsea hijack Willian transfer

That itself is worth seeing this transfer through. Imagine Willian scoring the winning goal for us at White Hart Lane.

[Rom2013 446]

Youtube is possibly the second worst scouting tool known to man.

Fair enough, we all know that Willian is a good player, but by putting a few clips together you can make an average player look world class. You can also make a player who has had a decent game, look like he has had a great game.

Here is a prime example, my team, Dundee United have a very good player, Gary Mackay-Steven. This video makes him look like a world beater, when realistically he is just a stand out SPL player who could possibly at best end up at middle of the road Prem team at best.

I put a video of one single match, I believe it has all his actions with the ball in one game. Usually it's what people do when they make one video like that, you can search for clips like that for Cristiano Ronaldo and you will find all the moments where Cristiano had possesion of the ball in the last season (good things and bad things),

When I want to know more about a player I think it's a good and fast way to know how he plays. Of course it would be better see all the game, but I don't have time for that.

[jonaaibosk 191]

I put a video of one single match, I believe it has all his actions with the ball in one game. Usually it's what people do when they make one video like that, you can search for clips like that for Cristiano Ronaldo and you will find all the moments where Cristiano had possesion of the ball in the last season (good things and bad thinks),

When I want to know more about a player I think it's a good and fast way to know how he plays. Of course it would be better see all the game, but I don't have time for that.

Don't take it the wrong way, it wasn't a dig at you, I'm just saying using youtube as a reference on how good a player is, is not really worthwhile. It's nearly as bad as when people type out a list of names of players they'd like to see sign, just because they've signed them on Football Manager/Fifa

[Jase 43,479]

Just saw this...

Phil Agius ‏@philagius 16m

If you think Mourinho's winding up Spurs with the Willian thing, just wait until he loans him to Arsenal

That would be absolutely hilarious to see!

[bababoom 4,478]

In my mind I'm thinking Hazard + Willian = the new version of Robben + Duff

I think Mourinho has tried Mazacar but it just doesn't work and now is making steps to correct it. If that means players come and go - so be it.

I loved our playing style in that season - was amazing

The thing with Robben and Duff is that they're both out and out wingers, although Hazard and Willian can play on the wing, it's best when they can interchange and not be forced to stay out on the wing. I would compare Duff and Robben to the likes of Moses and Schurrle in terms of how direct they are.

Back then we were playing counter attack football, similar to United, look at how many wingers they have, Young, Valancia, Nani and Zaha.

We're going to play a different style under Mourinho now considering the amount of attacking Midfielders we have, it's not about counter attacking at blistering pace, more like controlling the pace and tempo of the game.

[Pizy 18,849]

Willian looks so out of place in that video against CSKA. He looks like the only one trying to play football. All of his teammates are just standing there like lumps.

[Muzchap 8,966]

The thing with Robben and Duff is that they're both out and out wingers, although Hazard and Willian can play on the wing, it's best when they can interchange and not be forced to stay out on the wing. I would compare Duff and Robben to the likes of Moses and Schurrle in terms of how direct they are.

Back then we were playing counter attack football, similar to United, look at how many wingers they have, Young, Valancia, Nani and Zaha.

We're going to play a different style under Mourinho now considering the amount of attacking Midfielders we have, it's not about counter attacking at blistering pace, more like controlling the pace and tempo of the game.

Kinda agree - but we need width and Hazard and Willian have the dribbling and pace to be more effective slightly wider...

Our biggest problem is controlling the pace and setting a tempo - we can start well, but soon lose it and then give impetus to our opposition - it will take a few seasons of coaching I feel to get that right, we don't look fluid like United, City and Arsenal - or even Swansea...

I actually think LB is our weakest area and possibly RB - Cole doesn't link up so well anymore and Azpi doesn't always overlap - which means we get to good areas, but fail to press the advantage...

It will be an interesting solution that's for sure

Couple of players out on loan should also help - guessing West Brom and Watford will be interested maybe even Steve Bruce after his buttering up of Mourinho and I don't have a problem with that