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[steve5221 91]

All you really need to do is take a look at the thread of those who want to sack Carlo.

Only glory hunters will have this mentality. After a man gave them the best season they forget about everything and want him out.

All they want is win win, and don't want to have patience or give time to a manager to build something good, after he prove his worth in the first season.

Thats a fair point, but I think your missing what a glory hunter really is. A glory hunter is someone who changes thier team at the drop of hat to whoever is performing the best at that current time. On that basis all the "glory hunters" would have switched thier alligence to Man Utd...

[Guest justin_3d]

Thats a fair point, but I think your missing what a glory hunter really is. A glory hunter is someone who changes thier team at the drop of hat to whoever is performing the best at that current time. On that basis all the "glory hunters" would have switched thier alligence to Man Utd...

Ok then mistake. They are Plastic Fans!

All any fans wants is success for the club and winning is needed for that, so to say only glory hunters want is win win win is ridiculous. Everyone has their own opinion on a manager and just cause they don't think he's the best man for the job doesn't make them glory hunters.

Plastic fans cause they forget the man who did good for them one year ago.

[cfc-meleady 192]

Ok then mistake. They are Plastic Fans!

Plastic fans cause they forget the man who did good for them one year ago.

Seriously what are you actually talking about...

[Guest justin_3d]

Seriously what are you actually talking about...

This:

And then the banner that guy made about Carlo and Roman out.

Nothing but plastic fan.

[steve5221 91]

Plastic fans cause they forget the man who did good for them one year ago.

Plastic fans is a better term for what you are getting at. You are correct in what you are saying but a manager is only as good as his last game. On your theory if we lost every game now till the end of the season Ancellotti should still not get sacked because of what he achieved last year??

[cfc-meleady 192]

This:

http://forum.talkche...-in-the-summer/

And then the banner that guy made about Carlo and Roman out.

Nothing but plastic fan.

How?..its difference in opinion that's all. Agreed the banner wasn't the best way to go about it but who's to say the person who made that banner hasn't been supporting the club for 20-30 years.

[Guest justin_3d]

Plastic fans is a better term for what you are getting at. You are correct in what you are saying but a manager is only as good as his last game. On your theory if we lost every game now till the end of the season Ancellotti should still not get sacked because of what he achieved last year??

This is the problem. Plastic fans will only see this. While real fans will consider other factors.

It was said that we had a thin squad. We tried to rush young's too fast. Our players got injured and Ray got sack. Non of this helps and brings everything down.

Plastic fans cannot see this, and forget about everything, and all of a sudden the manager they where praising is the worst??? Sorry but plastic fan mentality here.

How?..its difference in opinion that's all. Agreed the banner wasn't the best way to go about it but who's to say the person who made that banner hasn't been supporting the club for 20-30 years.

That might be, but even people who support a club for a while their mentality will changed. And instead of being that core supporter like back in his time, they become big whiners. It's like a bunch of spoil brat by Roman money.

[steve5221 91]

How?..its difference in opinion that's all. Agreed the banner wasn't the best way to go about it but who's to say the person who made that banner hasn't been supporting the club for 20-30 years.

As terminator x just said, the banner was a publicity stunt.

[spuz 143]

As terminator x just said, the banner was a publicity stunt.

I said at the time it was probably some bitter goon. Let's face it they have a lot to be bitter about,especially after the last few weeks.

[Kostas 1,468]

The rats from the daily mail certainly did a good job with that sign.

Sold a few newspapers, a shrewd business move, fair play to them.

I'm all for conspiracy theories but we had people wanting Ancelotti and/or Roman out here too.

Seriously what are you actually talking about...

You're wasting your time.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Justin_3d you have failed to understand the difference between a "plastic fan" & giving a valid input in a debate where both sides have a good point. Just because some fans say Ancelotti isn't the right man for the manager role does not make them a "plastic fan" it simply makes them a fan entitled to their opinion. Even now, when we're supposedly in a good moment, some fans don't want Ancelotti here next season, even if we win the Champions League. So how does this make them plastic fans? They are looking at it from a long-term point of view.

[Guest justin_3d]

Justin_3d you have failed to understand the difference between a "plastic fan" & giving a valid input in a debate where both sides have a good point. Just because some fans say Ancelotti isn't the right man for the manager role does not make them a "plastic fan" it simply makes them a fan entitled to their opinion. Even now, when we're supposedly in a good moment, some fans don't want Ancelotti here next season, even if we win the Champions League. So how does this make them plastic fans? They are looking at it from a long-term point of view.

Alright then, i hope not to see some of these fans that want Carlo out praising Carlo if we win the CL or miraculous win the PL.

And even then I think a lot of these fans where praising the ground Carlo walk on when he won the double with a historic record of goals...

[LDN Blue 7,903]

And even then I think a lot of these fans where praising the ground Carlo walk on when he won the double with a historic record of goals...

Perhaps so. People Fans are still allowed to change their opinions though, it is not only based on results that fans have made judgements on Carlo. It's also things like his track record with AC Milan, his youth policy, him being a "yes man" and other, valid, points. You may not agree, but calling them plastic is a cheap come back, a much better option would be to debate their views - not label them glory hunters or plastic.

[eldo 868]

Perhaps so. People Fans are still allowed to change their opinions though, it is not only based on results that fans have made judgements on Carlo. It's also things like his track record with AC Milan, his youth policy, him being a "yes man" and other, valid, points. You may not agree, but calling them plastic is a cheap come back, a much better option would be to debate their views - not label them glory hunters or plastic.

Are you debating this again?

[spuz 143]

Justin_3d you have failed to understand the difference between a "plastic fan" & giving a valid input in a debate where both sides have a good point. Just because some fans say Ancelotti isn't the right man for the manager role does not make them a "plastic fan" it simply makes them a fan entitled to their opinion. Even now, when we're supposedly in a good moment, some fans don't want Ancelotti here next season, even if we win the Champions League. So how does this make them plastic fans? They are looking at it from a long-term point of view.

Shut up you plastic glory hunter.

I have to admit that Carlo has won me over slghtly in the past few weeks (more importantly he's won Roman over for the short term for now)

It took him along time but he finally realised what was needed , however he is still learning and for a 51 yr old that's not good.

e.g. Just this weekend when subbing Torres. And despite having umpteen amount of games this season the likes of Josh and co. have not seen much playing time.

I'll stand by my views of we shouldn't have got him in the first place,it was a risk with him winning only 1 league title in 10 years with Milan and Juve.

And I still stand by last season was very fortunate and we could have easily finished empty handed.

So for the record if he wins us the CL and PL,I still have no worries about Roman getting rid or him leaving for Roma.

We can find better (please no more Italians).

Overall verdict:

A lovely man,quiet and doesn't bring the dramas of Mourinho.Which I like.

Never bad mouthed a ref,or blamed a linesman for a loss,unlike other poor loser managers.

Still learning his trade.

Doesn't give youth much of a chance.

Takes a while to click on that something isn't working.

Some very pointless subs for which I think he's finally realising.

If he goes,I thank him and we move onwards and forwards,just like we have without Mourinho.