The Ancelotti Thread

[Madmax 9,219]

Shush about the double now,it's in the past. Let's talk about finishing this season empty handed and how many awful decisions Carlo has made.

Don't shush me. I was referring to a point Styles made. Ascertain the context of my post before replying to it.

If the league was as weak as last year and we had such an easy run the FA Cup then I think he would have.

Ancelotti is ordinary in every sense.

If the league was so weak, why didn't anyone else win it? And how difficult is it to win the Portuguese league?

There's no point trying to have a debate with you because you prefer to credit all the success to the players and all the failures to Carlo.

[spuz 143]

Don't shush me. I was referring to a point Styles made. Ascertain the context of my post before replying to it.

If the league was so weak, why didn't anyone else win it? And how difficult is it to win the Portuguese league?

There's no point trying to have a debate with you because you prefer to credit all the success to the players and all the failures to Carlo.

SHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Stop with the double talk it gets boring.

I think the point is that people aren't just blaming Carlo though. But his decisions are awful

[Madmax 9,219]

Fuck this. You don't read posts, or purposely ignore the aspect of understanding their context. Carry on your usual ramblings.

[spuz 143]

Fuck this. You don't read posts, or purposely ignore the aspect of understanding their context. Carry on your usual ramblings.

Let's talk about THIS season please. Keep on topic.

[spuz 143]

Let's go back in time a week and to how everyone was saying to stand any chance of a win in the second leg we can't go playing Essien and Lamps in the middle again.

Remember that?

Carlo must watch different games to the 95% of us on here that could spot a mile away they weren't good enough in the middle together.

[neel 257]

Shush about the double now,it's in the past. Let's talk about finishing this season empty handed and how many awful decisions Carlo has made.

there is nothing wrong in finishing empty handed . However, awful decisions are definitely a concern.

[ack17 205]

Even Grant can be chelsea manager. Why Boas can't?

Boas is much better than Grant.

[Madmax 9,219]

Let's talk about THIS season please. Keep on topic.

I was on topic all the time. But I'm not having a debate with you, for reasons aforementioned.

My final view on the matter - of course he makes big mistakes, they're well documented. But he deserves respect for his achievements and the chance to redeem himself next year, a chance to continue on a strategy for the club. He's been undermined by player power and owner interference, though he's at fault for (seemingly) taking it lying down. I'd give him one more year.

[spuz 143]

there is nothing wrong in finishing empty handed . However, awful decisions are definitely a concern.

Yes it's more the fashion in which we've finished empty handed, and the lack of a decent performance all season which is a real worry.

I was on topic all the time. But I'm not having a debate with you, for reasons aforementioned.

My final view on the matter - of course he makes big mistakes, they're well documented. But he deserves respect for his achievements and the chance to redeem himself next year, a chance to continue on a strategy for the club. He's been undermined by player power and owner interference, though he's at fault for (seemingly) taking it lying down. I'd give him one more year.

What are your views on all of us on here saying lamps and essien can't work in the middle but Carlo still keeps on playing them?

[5354 204]

Somehow I don't really see Ancelotti keen to stay...?

He seems to be accepting the idea that he might be sacked any time and reacting to interests for the job in Roma.

I don't really like that.

I also dislike the fact that he says he is the 'head coach' and not the manager of the team. - I mean, are you trying to tell people because of this, you can shed off responsibilities?

If Carlo wants to stay, I hope he can play a more defined football.

Btw, Bosingwa & Malouda should leave.... Hope Neymar can come in.

[Madmax 9,219]

What are your views on all of us on here saying lamps and essien can't work in the middle but Carlo still keeps on playing them?

I said the same thing about Lamps-Essien and I was equally at loss to understand the continued selection of both side by side. Maybe he was hoping his big name players would rise to the occasion.Failed though, didn't it?

[spuz 143]

Somehow I don't really see Ancelotti keen to stay...?

He seems to be accepting the idea that he might be sacked any time and reacting to interests for the job in Roma.

The way he was talking about his job being safe if we lose before a big game says it all. He was admitting defeat before we got out there.

I said the same thing about Lamps-Essien and I was equally at loss to understand the continued selection of both side by side. Maybe he was hoping his big name players would rise to the occasion.Failed though, didn't it?

Yes big time,just like we all predicted on here.

[Ollie 4,400]

If he wanted to stay, he woulda dropped certain players and shown some bottle. Same subs every game, same awful wingers, same lack of creativity and same lack of balls.

[EskWeston 696]

For most of the season i have been questioning what has gone wrong with us and how much blame to lay with Carlo. There have clearly been aspects that are not his fault, players form horribly poor, interference from the board with regards to Wilkins and Emanalo. However the way we set up to play most games and the poor substitutions can only be layed at Carlo's feet. We do not play with any tempo whatsoever, closing down is non-existant we are content to allow teams to put balls into our box with no pressure at all and hope we can clear it. We make things so easy for the opposition. The Alex for Ferreira substitution was an absolute joke. In a game that big if Alex was not fit to play the 90 mins then don't play him, or move Essien to right bak and bring on an attacking player like Benayoun or Zhirkov. When chasing 2 goals what sort of substitution was that.

I have my doubts about Carlo's ability given the summer to turn things around and get us playing. I do not want to see us sack another manager because we desperately need continuity but i don't know what the answer is....

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

Wilkins comments on Sky pre match showed he knows more than Carlo. And as for Emenalo.......

[neel 257]

This club needs a visionary like rinus Michels who can work from the grass root level. Sadly our management will not let that happen.

[EskWeston 696]

This club needs a visionary like rinus Michels who can work from the grass root level. Sadly our management will not let that happen.

I agree, we do need a visionary. The obvious is to look at people with sucess. But i say just because someone hasn't managed at a top level does not mean that can't. Even someone like Brendan Rodgers, has his teams playing good football and gets the best out of them........

[Madmax 9,219]

Surely people have to appreciate his job was made that much difficult with the (non) availability of options in the small squad? People say you need wingers but who's he going to put on when we don't have wingers? Bench Lampard, but play who exactly? Josh the 17 year old? Against weak opposition -yes it's possible; but against the big boys? Throw the boy in at the deep end and hope for the best? Don't kid me. It's easy to say that in hindsight when emotions are high but find me someone who'd rather wake up on the day of a big game and be happy to see Josh there instead of Lampard. You'd blame him for precisely that decision if we'd go on to lose. Truth is he's been in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't position all season long. There's no fucking way Sturridge, Bruma and Kakuta should've been loaned out though.

The genesis for this season's woes was laid in not replacing the summer exodus - FACT.

[neel 257]

I agree, we do need a visionary. The obvious is to look at people with sucess. But i say just because someone hasn't managed at a top level does not mean that can't. Even someone like Brendan Rodgers, has his teams playing good football and gets the best out of them........

There is a risk in bringing a manager who does not manage a top level. And that is the ability to manage the egos of the big club. Roy Hodgeson was wonderful at fullham and again he is doing great at west Brom. But he could not manage Liverpool.

[J.F. 1,484]

First: We need to find another ass. manager!

Second: We need to find manager who can motivate our players, Carlo doesn't know that.