DYC. 7,542 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Right. In Brazil Ganso is considered better than Neymar, even tought the hype around Neymar is by far bigger. I also believe that Ganso can be a better player to Chelsea than Neymar. He might be the midfielder maestro after Lampard retires. Ganso is also more prefessional. Im afraid that if Neymar comes to Chelsea he will end up another Robinho ( huge price, poor football ), or another Ronaldo. Win some trophies and then ask to leave to Real Madrid or Barcelona.Yeah you're right. Neymar shoud go to Spain or even Italy and just enjoy his football and the beautiful weather. The PL is too physical for him and i never thought he would be happy getting kicked around (especially a player of his age).Ganso however is a different case like you said. A midfielder like him should succeed in all major leagues. He would have to get used to and adjust to the high tempo of the PL since they play in a much lower tempo in the Série A (Brazilian league). Probably the reason why Brazilians are so succesful in the Italian league. Ganso would be perfect for the Serie A but i hope he joins us, doubt it though.But this thread is about Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 But if we have been in trouble in trying to sign Neymar, it will be even harder to sign Ganso... His buy-out clause is €50m (£40m ?)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 If there's one thing I've learnt in the past few years(about us and 'dream' transfers), it's this - DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Right. In Brazil Ganso is considered better than Neymar, even tought the hype around Neymar is by far bigger. I also believe that Ganso can be a better player to Chelsea than Neymar. He might be the midfielder maestro after Lampard retires. Ganso is also more prefessional. Im afraid that if Neymar comes to Chelsea he will end up another Robinho ( huge price, poor football ), or another Ronaldo. Win some trophies and then ask to leave to Real Madrid or Barcelona.To be honest I wouldn't mind if his goals led us to a PL-CL double and >80 millions for our club Everything I've read about Ganso suggests that he's as good as you say. And I can certainly trust the opinion of Brazilians as they have seen the likes of Romario, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho before they were even known in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Right. In Brazil Ganso is considered better than Neymar, even tought the hype around Neymar is by far bigger. I also believe that Ganso can be a better player to Chelsea than Neymar. He might be the midfielder maestro after Lampard retires. Ganso is also more prefessional. Im afraid that if Neymar comes to Chelsea he will end up another Robinho ( huge price, poor football ), or another Ronaldo. Win some trophies and then ask to leave to Real Madrid or Barcelona.I think Carlo (or whoever's organising this) want Neymar because he'll fit our system in 4-3-3, perhaps they feel we do not need another midfield player like Ganso (which they're wrong about). In all honesty I wouldn't mind if we sign them both What do you think about both their futures? In realistic transfers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoopz 183 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 or another Ronaldo. Win some trophies and then ask to leave to Real Madrid or Barcelona.whats wrong with that? thats pretty much how football works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Right. In Brazil Ganso is considered better than Neymar, even tought the hype around Neymar is by far bigger. I also believe that Ganso can be a better player to Chelsea than Neymar. He might be the midfielder maestro after Lampard retires. Ganso is also more prefessional. Im afraid that if Neymar comes to Chelsea he will end up another Robinho ( huge price, poor football ), or another Ronaldo. Win some trophies and then ask to leave to Real Madrid or Barcelona.Yes i have heard a lot about Ganso he is supposed to be a creative player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 whats wrong with that? thats pretty much how football works...Not wrong, but i rather have one player like Lampard, good but not the best in the world, who help us 6 or 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think Carlo (or whoever's organising this) want Neymar because he'll fit our system in 4-3-3, perhaps they feel we do not need another midfield player like Ganso (which they're wrong about). In all honesty I wouldn't mind if we sign them both What do you think about both their futures? In realistic transfers?About Neymar, his manager said he will stay at Santons until 2012, at least. There is no reason to believe he will leave earlier. Santo´s president insist he will stay until 2015 and beyound, but its not going to happen. I think in 2012 he will leave.His manager also said that Abramovich didnt gave up on him, but the russian knows he will have to wait until 2012. The problem is if Barcelona do the same offer Chelsea does, im afraid he will choose Barça. I think there is no player in the world who would choose Chelsea over Barcelona, if the price is the same, but Roman seems to be really interested on him, since some reports im Brazil asserts Neymars family met Romans himself during the World Cup.Ganso may leave earlier. Santos offered him a new contract, but he refused, since he thought it wasnt as good as the one offered to Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 About Neymar, his manager said he will stay at Santons until 2012, at least. There is no reason to believe he will leave earlier. Santo´s president insist he will stay until 2015 and beyound, but its not going to happen. I think in 2012 he will leave.His manager also said that Abramovich didnt gave up on him, but the russian knows he will have to wait until 2012. The problem is if Barcelona do the same offer Chelsea does, im afraid he will choose Barça. I think there is no player in the world who would choose Chelsea over Barcelona, if the price is the same, but Roman seems to be really interested on him, since some reports im Brazil asserts Neymars family met Romans himself during the World Cup.Ganso may leave earlier. Santos offered him a new contract, but he refused, since he thought it wasnt as good as the one offered to Neymar.In your opinion what is the difference in style between neymar and robinho, is neymar quicker ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hey Henrique make yourself useful, have you heard of Piazon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hey Henrique make yourself useful, have you heard of Piazon?Oh God, no ! I went to google and found out he is a 16 years old boy, to me is a surprise to you know him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 In your opinion what is the difference in style between neymar and robinho, is neymar quicker ?Neymar is faster than Robinho. But he is only 18 years old, so is very difficult o say what is his style. I think he is able to have the style Ronaldo ( the portuguese ) has, when he get more muscles. I mean, when Robinho was 18 years old, he coudnt play so well as Neymar does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Neymar is faster than Robinho. But he is only 18 years old, so is very difficult o say what is his style. I think he is able to have the style Ronaldo ( the portuguese ) has, when he get more muscles. I mean, when Robinho was 18 years old, he coudnt play so well as Neymar does now.Is neymar as skilful as robinho and can he finish better ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I should hope so, Robinho couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat 9 times in ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hey Henrique make yourself useful, have you heard of Piazon?Lucas Piazon has a great talent but wonderkid in the Sao Paulo team is Lucas (other)... Lucas Piazon (16) is a striker and Lucas (18) is a attacking midfielder. Lucas Piazon plays in the u-20 team in Sao Paulo and Lucas has been playing in the first-team... Both have great talent and will soon be in a big Europe Team!Lucas (other) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Apparently we are close to signing the 16 year old, 6ml...steep but maybe they see a lot of talent in him. Us being Juve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoopz 183 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I cant tell if this kid has a foot or not, he runs all his goals into the net! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoulJoul 20 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I cant tell if this kid has a foot or not, he runs all his goals into the net!Lucas was selected for the u-20 Brazil team, follow the games and you will see he is a wonderkid!BTW He will play the South American Championships with Neymar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Here's something promising that I've found. clicky clicky. There are still chances for us to sign him. I just hope Barcelona doesn't sign him...if they do that won't be good.EDIT:Found also 'The chance that Neymar will leave Santos for Chelsea in this season (2011) are zero per cent. 'Neymar wants to play the Copa Libertadores with Santos. (FOXSports.com) 4 days agoThe agent of Santos star Neymar says the player will see out his contract to 2012. Wagner Ribeiro also warned the likes of Chelsea against trying to unsettle his client. He said: 'The interest from Europe in Neymar has been coming for a while now. (Tribal Football) YesterdayBrazilian youngster Neymar has 'zero per cent' chance of joining Chelsea in the January transfer window, according to the 18-year-old's agent. (Daily Mail) 4 days agoSantos wonderkid Neymar's agent Wagner Ribeiro says there is no chance of his client moving to Chelsea in January. (espnstar.com) 4 days agoNeymar will not be leaving Santos before the 2012 Olympics in London, according to his agent Wagner Ribeiro. The 18-year-old is one of the most sought-after players around and appeared to be on his way to Chelsea last summer. (goal.com) 5 days agoHaving been a near-constant fixture on the radars of Europe’s elite since the age of 13, Santos’ wünderkind Neymar has found himself linked with big-money moves to all and sundry on a consistent basis for at least the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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