EskWeston 696 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Having seen that the new "Homegrown" rule that the premier league plan to introduce for next season has been discussed in another thread so i thought i would set up a thread to discuss this new rule on it's own.What the new rule means is that from next season all clubs must submit a squad of 25 players. Of those 25 players 8 have to be "Homegrown". A homegrown player is classed as a player that was registered with the FA or the Welsh FA for 3 entire seasons before their 21st Birthday. This is the difference between the Premier League and the UEFA homegrown rule because the UEFA homegrown rule states that half of the homegrown quota must be from the club itself.Clubs are also able to beef up their squads with unlimited players who are under the age of 21 before the 1st of January of that season, so for next season that is 1st January 2011.So what does it mean for our squad? Lets have a look (HG is where we have to have a homegrown player):1.(HG): John Terry2.(HG): Ashley Cole3.(HG): Frank Lampard4.(HG): Joe Cole5.(HG): Ross Turnbull6.(HG): Daniel Sturridge7.(HG): Sam Hutchinson/Michael Mancienne8.(HG): Miroslav Stoch/Ryan Bertrand9. Petr Cech10. Branislav Ivanovic11. Michael Essien12. Ricardo Carvalho13. Didier Drogba14. Mikel15. Michael Ballack16. Florent Malouda17. Jose Bosingwa18. Yuri Zhirkov19. Paulo Fereira20. Deco21. Salomon Kalou22. Nemaja Matic23. Alex24. Juliano Belletti25. Nicolas AnelkaNo room for Hilario on that list and we are short 2 Homegrown players. Now Sam Hutchinson could be included in the Homegrown if he is intended to be part of the squad as he won't qualify to be in the unlimited U21 list as he is 21 this August. Other names mentioned are Gael Kakuta, Fabio Borini, Jeffrey Bruma and Patrick Van Aanholt, all of whom would be eligable for the unlimited list. Of those on loan with a chance, Miroslav Stoch won't be eligable for the unlimited list put he would class as homegrown as would Michael Mancienne and Sam Hutchinson.So what it comes down to is that even if we kept the squad exactly the same, 1 person would have to go. If we want to bring in any outside transfers people will have to go to be replaced in the squad. So what it comes down to is that there is great problems caused by this but it will impact on the way we deal with Transfers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueboy 14 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Well, i don't think this is such a bad thing at all tbh. The club will be forced to make more use of their academy. All together this will cause that the club has to improvise more and be more creative with their youngsters. Only thing i am afraid about is that it will cost us quality, because the club HAS to put in 8 HG-players every season (and may be they will need to include some youngsters that aren't up to that level yet, or never will be...). On the other hand, this might not be a big problem as i think it is, because once we've got 8 HG-players selected, i assume they won't be off the season afterwards . Edited April 29, 2010 by Blueboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Oviosly this rule is to attempt to get teams to use players they have developed themselves rather then pay maasive transfers and contracts that has gotten clubs in financial difficulties like Portsmouth, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 Oviosly this rule is to attempt to get teams to use players they have developed themselves rather then pay maasive transfers and contracts that has gotten clubs in financial difficulties like Portsmouth,Yes it is, and it is a very good thing if you ask me. Although they could have gone further like UEFA and said that some have to be generated through your own academy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 The home grown rule will save english football and not make it as disgraceful as that UCL match yesterday with cheating galore. Although the foreigners have helped English football, they have also disgraced it. There's nothing like our English game. Love the rule. We'll be fine. They should have it in every country tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyBlue 44 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 The price for English players will undoubtedly increase even more so now, and it's going to be a similar thing where clubs will nick players off other academy's too lolMore money to the smaller clubs though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 So you are only allowed a maximum squad size of 25 players unless they are under 21? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyBlue 44 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 ^ I THINK that's how it works.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 So you are only allowed a maximum squad size of 25 players unless they are under 21?Yes, set squad of 25 players and then as many under 21's as you want on top of that 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 The home grown rule will save english football and not make it as disgraceful as that UCL match yesterday with cheating galore. Although the foreigners have helped English football, they have also disgraced it. There's nothing like our English game. Love the rule. We'll be fine. They should have it in every country thosave from what ? english football is the best in the world, the players in our academy will still be foreign too they will be cherry picked from france spain italy and portugal. Players like gael kakuta miro stoch and bruma are foreign ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 60 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Its a good idea, I'm all for CFC bringing through young players, ie Hutchinson etc. We already have a fair share of 'homegrown' players as it is.Personally I would have liked to have seen a rule along the lines of, 8 homegrown players with 2 or 3 of them being from the clubs own academy and under the age of 21, would this work? Edited May 1, 2010 by Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Saved from foreign cheats i.e Man Utd signing Ronaldo. A premiership cheat (and world cheat) was born. The more homegrown players, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Saved from foreign cheats i.e Man Utd signing Ronaldo. A premiership cheat (and world cheat) was born. The more homegrown players, the better. English players dive too ollie and cristiano ronaldo was one of the greatest ever premiership players, better than any english player i can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cee 50 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) I think the English FA should be more specific and add Premier League English Player Homegrown rule on top of the Premier League Homegrown rule. Example:Premier League English Homegrown players: 5Premier League Homegrown players: 5So clubs would be required to have 5 PLEH and 5 PLH. Otherwise clubs will just picked 13/14 year old boys from other countries and train them in England like BadBoy said. Edited May 2, 2010 by .Cee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I won't even comment about Ronaldo being that good, I'd take Lampard every day over him. Our players don't dive, only a few do like Gerrard, Joe Cole and maybe a few more. Our foreigners are the cheats in the EPL not our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I won't even comment about Ronaldo being that good, I'd take Lampard every day over him. Our players don't dive, only a few do like Gerrard, Joe Cole and maybe a few more. Our foreigners are the cheats in the EPL not our own.Lampard better than Ronaldo . English players are cheats too its not only foreign players, the premiership would be one of the worst leagues in the world without the foreign players. The foreign players have made it a global brand, english players have learned a lot from the great foreign talent that have played here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 He didn't say Lampard was better. He said he'd choose Lampard over Ronaldo.And so would I. He's more consistent. And correct me if I'm wrong here - he's also scored more goals in the league than CR9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueboy 14 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 He didn't say Lampard was better. He said he'd choose Lampard over Ronaldo.And so would I. He's more consistent. And correct me if I'm wrong here - he's also scored more goals in the league than CR9.CR9 also has about 21/22 goals atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Ronaldo has 22 because he's a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Ronaldo has 22 because he's a cunt. Ronaldo is on a different level than lampard talent wise. Ronaldo is a freak of nature pure freak of nature, he is unbelievable in the last third of the pitch. Ronaldo is also a lot younger than lampard, he is only going to get better he is the most complete attacking player in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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