The Transfer Ban

[Shane 2,275]

We know have an excuse, But we don't a need an excuse.

What I'm worried about is if a player like Drogba or Lampard says, Give me 500,000 a week or i'll leave, We can't replace them for a while can we? Carlo has a big job in keeping the players together, Make sure there's no splits, etc.

This is also a chance to balance the books as no major money will be leaving the club.

[anathemadelight 1]

Here are some lawyer's opinions from the Times.

Any Chelsea appeal against the Fifa sanction banning them from registering new players during the next two transfer windows is likely to be fast-tracked through the system, a leading lawyer has warned.

It would render useless possible attempts by the West London club to delay the process, having the ban "frozen" by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) and thereby enabling them to buy players in January and perhaps during the summer as well.

"There is a real possibility that this case will be dealt with before Christmas, before the next transfer window," Adam Morallee, a partner with Mishcon de Reya, the law firm, said yesterday. "It would not be a suprise for it to be heard before then."

Chelsea could pursue the avenue taken by Sion. In a similar dispute, ruled on by Fifa in May, the Swiss club were also embargoed for two transfer windows. However, they appealed and had their ban temporarily suspended by CAS as it deliberated. The judgement is not expected until November, which allowed Sion to buy players this summer.

Should Chelsea take the same route, they would then be free to play the transfer market from January 1. This, though, could have implications should a player bought in that period make a meaningful contribution. If Chelsea's ban was subsequently upheld by CAS, aggrieved parties could claim that the signing of the new player was illegal.

"That could open up a whole new can of worms," Morallee said. "What if you buy a player in that window, he goes on to score vital goals in, say, the Champions League, and then Chelsea's punishment is ratified by CAS. You could have a Carlos Tevez affair to the power of 25 million."

Stephen Hornsby, partner and specialist sport lawyer at Davenport Lyons, believes that Chelsea should take the risk. "In lodging their appeal against the Fifa sanction, Chelsea are bound to follow the FC Sion route," Hornsby said. "Their chances of success in having immediate implementation of the sanction suspended will be very high.

"I think Chelsea will be able to look forward to many more months dealing in the transfer market before Fifa’s punishment actually comes into effect. In this interim period, they will be able to stockpile players with a view to covering themselves in the period of suspension that would follow an unsuccessful appeal."

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[Kez 2,727]

Heres something to wet your appetite.....

Watcha gonna do Mr Blatter ?

Fuck all cause its united most probably.

[JT26 0]

Not the end of the world. We just have to have faith in what weve got. No player will be allowed to leave now which is a plus. It will only reallly hit us next season i feel as i dont think we would of bought in january. Our squad is strong enough. Plus we can take sinclair di santo stoch and the rest back from loan

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

What I find amusing is that as soon as this report was published, all Chelsea haters (99.99% other football supporters) started saying their usual crap like

''they deserve it''

''I'm glad they are ruining football''

''what goes around comes around''

''shit team, shit history, I hope they go to League 2''

and act as if though Chelsea is the only club that does bad things (I'm pretty sure they are all closet Manchester United supporters at least).

Then if we win with are appeal, the whole football community wll start moaning, call FIFA spineless and say we are always lucky with everything (must be closet Liverpool supporters). I bet if West Ham get punished with a huge fine, kicked out of League Cup and Fa Cup and get points docked off because of the Millwall game, everyone would start to defend them, but if it happened to Chelsea, everyone would just feel happy.

I am pretty sure we are the most hated football club in the world.

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

''what goes around comes around''

This is the best of the lot of them.......

It will indeed come around. Manu, Arsenal, Real, Barca, etc.....If lesser clubs feel victimised, FIFA will have to act if they want to play hardball with the big boys. If they dont act then we would have a case for discrimination.

Play the fuckers at their own game.

[Term-X 7,891]

we are the most hated club in world football.

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

Hmmmmmm.....

If we've crossed the line then we cant really complain. FIFA are just applying the rules.

If this is the case then they must analise every "dodgy" new signing and apply the rules straight across the board. If they want to make an example of us thats fair enough, but to single us out and not apply the same rules to others who have used similar methods in bringing players to their clubs, would be bordering on discrimination.

I await other clubs dealings to be thoroughly disected to make this a level playing field.

The mentions of Man City pursuing of Lescott doesn't fall into this bracket if I'm reading it correctly. Lescott didnt ask for his contract to be terminated then go elsewhere. He asked for a transfer which is totaly different imo. Yes you could say it is "tapping up" but thats a different kettle of fish altogether.

If the appeal is successful then we can move on and put it behind us. Lesson learnt. If not then we must pull together and get right behind the club vocally and show them we shall not be battered into submission. We will show what we're made of by winning the title and hopefully the CL and blank Platini on that podium when we collect our winners medals.

Chelsea till I die. :thumbsup:

[Jessman 9]

Fifa make me sick to my fucking stomach, so corrupt and it always seems to happen to Chelsea.

Doesn't matter lads, we can still win this, I got all faith in them.

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

To be fair.....the rules are there in black and white in another thread. We didnt follow them and have been punished accordingly.

If you want to blame Baltter, Platini, etc...by all means go for it, but we should be looking closer to home imo. Either those who make these decsions within the club dont know the rules or they totally disreguarded them. Imo, these people should be spoken to buy the clubs hierarchy and asked to explain their actions.

If the decision was made knowingly from those at the top then they've only themselves to blame.

[chelsea blue 615]

From a manure site

In recent seasons United has signed Giuseppe Rossi, Gerrard Piqué,Federico Macheda, Davide Petrucci and Paul Pogba amid a storm ofprotest and recrimination from each of the players' parent clubs.Indeed, United has made millions from the re-sale of Rossi and Piqué –and potentially saved millions in transfer fees on the others.

To date there is nothing to stop English clubs signing up under-18players from continental Europe – or indeed further abroad in the caseof United's da Silva twins and Rodrigo Possebon. And while there is absolutely no suggestion that United has acted improperly – or illegally – in the case of the aforementioned kids, the club'sreputation and actions have repeatedly been questioned.

Lets see what happens to them

[Term-X 7,891]

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Doesn't anyone find it kind of suspicous it was made public after the whole 'Mutu Has to Retire' report came out?

Like AR said, if the appeal is turned down then we should stand buy and use our youngsters and show them that we do have good youngsters going through our academy. Don't know what Carlo will do now though, he has no limit for players for come in, i guess any rational manager would walk away from the club, i am hoping he isn't like that and stays.

One thing, does this mean we can't bring in more youngsters?

[anathemadelight 1]

To be fair.....the rules are there in black and white in another thread. We didnt follow them and have been punished accordingly.

If you want to blame Baltter, Platini, etc...by all means go for it, but we should be looking closer to home imo. Either those who make these decsions within the club dont know the rules or they totally disreguarded them. Imo, these people should be spoken to buy the clubs hierarchy and asked to explain their actions.

If the decision was made knowingly from those at the top then they've only themselves to blame.

Absolutely. I can understand why people are upset, but at the end of the day if we broke the rules we deserve the punishment. Isn't that what we've been telling Mutu?

[mashinist 1]

Platini it is the person which to put it mildly football pulls down. Its idiotic decisions break to clubs destiny it is possible to tell. It silly and shows at once its hostility to English football, at first a semi-final that year, now it. 

Very stupidly!!!

[.Cee 50]

Don't hold your breath waiting to see if other clubs would get the same punishment. You know they won't.

I really hope they will reduce the ban. If it isn't reduced, we'll just have to use our youngsters a lot more. The 16+ year olds are registered.

It's making me think now, is the player even worth all this?

If we train him right and give him enough chances like we did with JT, we'll know the answer in 10 years...

Because he thinks someone is against his football club, No, I don't think its overreacting.

Football isn't a matter of life and death, Its much more important than that.

Disagree with you, for me football is a major part of my life and something i cannot live with out. So i think it was a perfect response to your comment.

I have to strongly disagree here. I would NOT trade my daughter, parents, sister, brother and husband for football. NEVER. Family is MUCH more important.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

we are the most hated club in world football.

Love it

I don't see how Lens can possibly complain - I'm pretty sure that in football regulations it's illegal to offer a contract to a player under the age of 17, yet they are saying they had him contracted since he was 15...

I just think Lens are pissed cos fucking Montpellier are above them in Ligue Un

[ZanSnake 1,211]

I think a 'training' contract means otherwise in those rules, but heck, i don't know.

[Clevemayer 764]

I'm not worried anyway... at first i was like this but then i realized that tehy did the same thing to roma, they appealed and the ban was reduced to just one transferperiod, so we'll be able to register player in jan 2011... FIFA is full of bastards, especially fuckini... hate this french toad, just cause the liverpool fans disturbed his winning ceremony in the heysel stadium, not all fans are like the scousers, it was a black day on football but u toad should get over it and be neutral as YOU SCHOULD BE AS A PRESIDENT OF AN INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL ASSOSIATION asshole...

and this will give our youngsters a chance... so if we cant give them a chance on the normal track, maybe this way...

Kakuta will serve this right cause of his injurys... he will get back his speed and agilty something he was lacking since he was injured and in jan he'll play in the CL, cause we have registred him ALREADY... and then he should come on in the final and score the winner against his fucking JUVE (sry nothing against juve, great team like them a lot, out of all italian teams they're the only once i like)

so C'Mon Blues

Edited September 4, 2009 by Clevemayer

[the wes 7,212]

It was March 2007, France's under-16 team had agreed to play Polandin two friendly matches in three days and it was not an opportunitythat scouts from the Premier League were going to miss. France'sleading young talent is always worth a look and this particular vintagecame highly recommended.

Chelsea,of course, were present and correct and, after taking in a 0-0 drawfollowed by a thumping 5-0 France victory, one player had advertisedhimself as being of an exquisitely rare quality. Gaël Kakuta held thescouts in thrall. Whether with his first touch, his pace in possessionor his mesmeric ability to ghost past challengers, they could not taketheir eyes off him.

Kakuta scored in the second game but, bythen, Chelsea were hooked. Dispatches were duly filed to Frank Arnesen,then the club's head of scouting and youth development. Here was aplayer that they had to have, one who was worth going the extra mile tosign.

The winger, who was aged 15 at the time, was scouted onfurther occasions and the wheels of a deal were set in motion. But, aswith other occasions on Arnesen's watch, those wheels rolled overpeople and clubs who would howl with indignation – in Kakuta's case,his club Lens, with whom he had an "elite training" contract, if not aprofessional one. They cried foul to Fifaand more than two years on Chelsea and Arnesen have been left to digestthe consequences. The London club have been barred from playing thenext two transfers windows, pending appeal.

Arnesen was at a lowebb in the summer of 2007, when Kakuta arrived at Stamford Bridge. Theywere, as it transpired, the final months of the Jose Mourinhomanagement era and, having fallen out with the volatile Portuguese,Arnesen found himself on the fringes. It was a time of ascendancy inthe complex world of Chelsea politics for the chief executive, PeterKenyon. Circumstances have since changed and Arnesen, for whomMourinho's departure in September 2007 was a very good thing, completedhis rise, in July, to the position of sporting director. Kenyon'sstock, meanwhile, has seemingly fallen.

Yet Arnesen was at thehelm in terms of youth recruitment when Kakuta was tempted to westLondon; the scouts reported to him and considered him to be the boss.As the Dane feels his way into his new broader and more powerful role,the timing of the Fifa sanction could not be worse, or moreembarrassing.

Roman Abramovich, the billionaire Chelsea owner, isa man of few words but his silence can connote menace. If there is acan to carry, it could be Arnesen's, particularly as he and the clubhave previously been accused of illegally poaching young players.

In2006, the Leeds United chairman, Ken Bates, accused Chelsea of tappingup the academy players Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo before signing them,and making an illegal approach for Danny Rose, who chose to stay atElland Road before he eventually joined Tottenham Hotspur. "Because ofthe financial strength of Abramovich," Bates said at the time,"financial punishments alone will make no difference to them." Chelseastrongly denied any wrongdoing.

Weeks later, Arnesen was shown bythe BBC's Panorama programme appearing to make an approach to theMiddlesbrough schoolboy player Nathan Porritt. He was secretly filmedoffering the 15-year-old a payment of £150,000, although Chelsea havealways denied any wrongdoing. Although Porritt stayed put, other clubshave had their feathers ruffled and their prized assets spirited awayby Chelsea's's hard cash and no-nonsense approach.

There is acertain irony in Arnesen's Chelsea career beginning with a tapping-upstorm. He was made to serve a period of gardening leave after Chelseawere ruled to have made an illegal approach to Tottenham for him.Chelsea were forced to pay £5m to Spurs and Arnesen was immediatelyunder pressure to justify his own poaching. One of his weapons ofchoice was Abramovich's chequebook.

Chelsea are far from beingthe only big club who use their financial clout to raid smaller ones.Indeed, Manchester United are the subject of action from Le Havre overthe tactics they allegedly used to take the 16-year-old Paul Pogba. Butat the moment, it is Chelsea who are squirming under an unforgivingspotlight.

www.guardian.co.uk

Arnesen should get sack for this

first it was the leeds boys and second it illegal approach for the boro boy now he got us a ban for illegal approach for Gaël Kakuta

when will he learn useless cunt..............