Makelele - JT got Mourinho sacked

[manpe 10,861]

This is an interesting subject. I first heard of it when eldo mentioned in another thread. Sorry for bumping a 3 year old topic.

Recalling the departure of Mourinho two years ago, Makelele adds: ‘Rui [Faria] — our physical trainer — explained that a lot of players had complained about Mourinho, notably John Terry.’

http://www.dailymail...nho-sacked.html

Is it possible that Terry is the main culprit behind the downfall of the club? If the Makelele accusations are true, then he's partly responsible, but so is the board for giving in. And exactly the same thing repeated throughout the years, the latest victim being AVB, who seems to have been sacked under similar conditions - a few players make their disagreements public and reported arguments between them, and weeks later the manager gets fired. I see no reason why Claude would lie about such a thing... Reading his version of events, I'm sure that something along those lines did happen, you just don't make stuff like that up.

I'm gutted that in a few weeks I'm forced to doubt the 2 players who are the main reason why I started following Chelsea.

I believe it is within the player's rights to question the manager. After all, we all endeavour for the ultimate glory of the club, so I think the players should be allowed to voice their complaints without being criticised for doing so.

Do you still believe so?

[francozola 2,040]

Yep this is why I said that people are naive to think that JT is the "true Chelsea legend" in their eyes after Lampard's behavior over the past few months. We don't know what JT's role in all of this was.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/terry-denies-he-forced-mourinho-from-bridge-1693178.html

Jesus listen to yourself you bunch of gullible goons.

Do you really think Mourinho would publicly back JT various different times if this was the case?

The cynics and pessimists are really out for it lately. Cringeworthy. I can imagine other fans coming on here and laughing at us. Absolute embarrassment.

[francozola 2,040]

Warnie's posts on the previous page.... Posted almost 3 years ago and if you change some names it would exactly fit what has just happened. What a ridiculous club we are.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

. We don't know what JT's role in all of this was.

Exactly its all speculation.

Next thing people will start making stuff up like journalists, or autobigraphical ghost writers, and where would we be then ?

[francozola 2,040]

We will probably never know until Jose releases a proper autobiography but I do think there were some tensions behind the scenes between him and JT. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jose wanted to drop him which led to the whole fiasco

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

I dont know whether to watch Eastenders or carry on reading these posts

[francozola 2,040]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/terry-denies-he-forced-mourinho-from-bridge-1693178.html

Jesus listen to yourself you bunch of gullible goons.

Do you really think Mourinho would publicly back JT various different times if this was the case?

The cynics and pessimists are really out for it lately. Cringeworthy. I can imagine other fans coming on here and laughing at us. Absolute embarrassment.

How can you believe with certainty that JT had nothing to do with it? Jose has never come out and said it but he had nothing whatsoever to gain by doing so. We simply don't know in that case. Naive to believe one way or the other completely

[zolayes 14,489]

Exactly its all speculation.

Next thing people will start making stuff up like journalists, or autobigraphical ghost writers, and where would we be then ?

we would be in deep shit ,,,,oh but we are

[manpe 10,861]

exactly, we don't know for fact, but we can discuss because there is basis for discussion (the whole point of the forum)... and if you have an opinion on it, fine, it's a constitutional right to have and express it.. but i won't be ridiculing everybody who has a different pov. and especially with the latest sacking, it looks similar to that case and is even more relevant now.

it is word against word... one has nothing to gain, the other would have everything to lose if he admitted to the accusations.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

we would be in deep shit ,,,,oh but we are

just noticed your 'John Hollins Blue and White Army' on your posts - brilliant.

Got me thinking we should do a stick or twist thread on all the previous mangers

[Billy. 2,742]

I dont know whether to watch Eastenders or carry on reading these posts

Eastenders better story lines!!

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Do you still believe so?

I posted that two years ago.

And yes, I fucking do. What I don't expect is for them to completely humiliate the manager, the club and the fans.

[Badboy 1,526]

I posted that two years ago.

And yes, I fucking do. What I don't expect is for them to completely humiliate the manager, the club and the fans.

I posted that two years ago.

And yes, I fucking do. What I don't expect is for them to completely humiliate the manager, the club and the fans.

I strongly believe that we have a very very powerful lobbyist group at Chelsea. They're the older players who pick and choose which manager is to their taste or not. Terry, Lampard, A.Cole and Cech is what I suspect, Drogba and Essien and a few others are neutral in my opinion. This lobby group have so much power and I suspect they are very close to Roman, if you look at Man utd their owners are hardly ever there and you can't tell me any of the players at City have Sheikh Mansour's telephone number...... they are completely detached from the club and I like it like that. You can see various photo's of the players on Roman's yacht and I don't like that. If you look at most companies and business's you will see the owner does not strike a close relationship with his employee's, its because there are sooooo many problems that can arise from that. First they will have a drink with you and slowly but surely they will get so close to you personally that any new Manager or supervisor that is employed is weaker then the company employee who is supposed to listen to the manager.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I'm concerned that Terry was ringing Abramovich to try and save Mourinho's job. No player should have contact with the owner.