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37 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

My first game in The Shed (Whitewall), was a 3rd round FA Cup tie brought forward to new year's day 1974. In those days new years day was not a traditional football day. Very dull game finished 0-0 against Bristol Rovers if I remember right. May have misremembered some of the details but I'm sure it was an FA Cup game. 🙂

Did you go to the Houseman memorial game? Pretty sure I've still got the program. It was a single piece of card printed black and white on both sides.

P.S. Heard a chant of "We're the middle, we're the middle, we're the middle of the ..." during the Bournemouth game. Made me feel nicely nostalgic.

No never went to Peter Houseman's testimonial. Makes me feel really old. First game was 1967 on an uncles shoulders v Wolves.

Funnily enough as a 15 year old was working part time at Eastville in Bristol in 1974 -£1. 40 for two hours, free entry and a pie and a pint

The Tote End, Bristol Rovers v West Ham United, Eastville Stadium, Aug 1973 - Bing video

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32 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

No never went to Peter Houseman's testimonial. Makes me feel really old. First game was 1967 on an uncles shoulders v Wolves.

Funnily enough as a 15 year old was working part time at Eastville in Bristol in 1974 -£1. 40 for two hours, free entry and a pie and a pint

The Tote End, Bristol Rovers v West Ham United, Eastville Stadium, Aug 1973 - Bing video

Double Barrel. Love it!

Pie & a pint for a 15 year-old. They'd never get away with that now. 🙂 

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44 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Double Barrel. Love it!

Pie & a pint for a 15 year-old. They'd never get away with that now. 🙂 

Exactly. Was working there once and coupl of seats in front could here this Come on Luton, Come on Luton ! -it was only Eric Morecambe.

Ground is an Ikea now 😐

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2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Can't remember about the European transfer record for sure but I think it might not have been. I think I remember having a book, probably something like a Score annual, that showed the world record as being £400,000 for Luigi Riva around the time of the '70 World Cup. Might not have been Riva, might not have been 1970 but I'm sure it was £400,00. 🙂

Football finance was totally different in those days. Virtually no TV money and tiny gate receipts thanks to a combination of very low ticket prices and depressed attendances caused by hooliganism and racism. To put the prices in perspective; I bought my first season ticket in 1976. It cost me £22! This meant that there really wasn't a lot of difference between the budgets of the First Divison clubs. I don't remember the specific situation with Stoke, but maybe it was an owner who pumped money in. Whatever the source, it briefly made them one of the best sides in the country. They beat us in the '72 League Cup Final and later, propelled by Hudson's finest ever season, they finished runners up in the league.

Historical progression (not adjusted for inflation btw)

Year Player Selling club Buying club Fee (£)
1893 Scotland Willie Groves England West Bromwich Albion England Aston Villa 100[2]
1903 England Ben Green England Barnsley England Small Heath 500[77]
1904 England Alf Common (1) England Sheffield United England Sunderland 520[78]
1904 Scotland Andy McCombie England Sunderland England Newcastle United 700[79]
1905 England Alf Common (2) England Sunderland England Middlesbrough 1,000[80]
1913 England Daniel Shea England West Ham United England Blackburn Rovers 2,000[81]
1913 England Tommy Barber England Bolton Wanderers England Aston Villa 2,000[82]
1914 England Percy Dawson Scotland Heart of Midlothian England Blackburn Rovers 2,500[83]
1920 England David Jack (1) England Plymouth Argyle England Bolton Wanderers 3,500[84]
1921 Scotland Tom Hamilton Scotland Kilmarnock England Preston North End 4,600[85]
1922 England Syd Puddefoot England West Ham United Scotland Falkirk 5,000[86]
1922 England Warney Cresswell England South Shields England Sunderland 5,500[87]
1925 England Bob Kelly England Burnley England Sunderland 6,500[88]
1928 England David Jack (2) England Bolton Wanderers England Arsenal 10,890[89]
1932 Argentina Bernabé Ferreyra Argentina Tigre Argentina River Plate 23,000[89]
1949 England Johnny Morris England Manchester United England Derby County 24,000[88]
1949 England Eddie Quigley England Sheffield Wednesday England Preston North End 26,500[88]
1950 Wales Trevor Ford England Aston Villa England Sunderland 30,000[88]
1951 England Jackie Sewell England Notts County England Sheffield Wednesday 34,500[88]
1952 Sweden Hans Jeppson Italy Atalanta Italy Napoli 52,000[89]
1954 Uruguay Juan Schiaffino Uruguay Peñarol Italy Milan 72,000[89]
1957 Argentina Omar Sivori Argentina River Plate Italy Juventus 93,000[89]
1961 Spain Luis Suárez Spain Barcelona Italy Inter Milan 152,000[89]
1963 Italy Angelo Sormani Italy Mantova Italy Roma 250,000[89]
1967 Denmark Harald Nielsen Italy Bologna Italy Inter Milan 300,000[90]
1968 Italy Pietro Anastasi Italy Varese Italy Juventus 500,000[89]
1973 Netherlands Johan Cruyff Netherlands Ajax Spain Barcelona 922,000[89]
1975 Italy Giuseppe Savoldi Italy Bologna Italy Napoli 1,200,000[89]
1976 Italy Paolo Rossi Italy Vicenza Italy Juventus 1,750,000[89]
1982 Argentina Diego Maradona (1) Argentina Boca Juniors Spain Barcelona 3,000,000[89]
1984 Argentina Diego Maradona (2) Spain Barcelona Italy Napoli 5,000,000[89]
1987 Netherlands Ruud Gullit Netherlands PSV Eindhoven Italy Milan 6,000,000[89]
1990 Italy Roberto Baggio Italy Fiorentina Italy Juventus 8,000,000[89]
1992 France Jean-Pierre Papin France Marseille Italy Milan 10,000,000[89]
1992 Italy Gianluca Vialli Italy Sampdoria Italy Juventus 12,000,000[89]
1992 Italy Gianluigi Lentini Italy Torino Italy Milan 13,000,000[89]
1996 Brazil Ronaldo (1) Netherlands PSV Eindhoven Spain Barcelona 13,200,000[89]
1996 England Alan Shearer England Blackburn Rovers England Newcastle United 15,000,000[91]
1997 Brazil Ronaldo (2) Spain Barcelona Italy Inter Milan 19,500,000[89]
1998 Brazil Denílson Brazil São Paulo Spain Real Betis 21,500,000[92][93]
1999 Italy Christian Vieri Italy Lazio Italy Inter Milan 32,000,000[94]
2000 Argentina Hernán Crespo Italy Parma Italy Lazio 35,500,000[94]
2000 Portugal Luís Figo Spain Barcelona Spain Real Madrid 37,000,000[94]
2001 France Zinedine Zidane Italy Juventus Spain Real Madrid 46,600,000[94]
2009 Brazil Kaká Italy Milan Spain Real Madrid 56,000,000[95]
2009 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo England Manchester United Spain Real Madrid 80,000,000[96]
2013 Wales Gareth Bale England Tottenham Hotspur Spain Real Madrid 86,000,000[97]
2016 France Paul Pogba Italy Juventus England Manchester United 89,000,000[98]
2017 Brazil Neymar Spain Barcelona France Paris Saint-Germain 198,000,000[3][4]
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7 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

That was the era started going in the Shed. One that was taken from us too soon (in 1977) was a fantastic player. Peter Houseman. Totally underrated and like Vialli a genuine nice guy.

His wife, himself and their two friends killed by a drunk driver who veered across the other side of the road. The drunk driver was an Etonian, son of a Tory MP so, you've guessed it, got off practically scot free.

The mad Maseratti driver, outside Oxford.

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10 hours ago, Vesper said:

Historical progression (not adjusted for inflation btw)

Year Player Selling club Buying club Fee (£)
1893 Scotland Willie Groves England West Bromwich Albion England Aston Villa 100[2]
1903 England Ben Green England Barnsley England Small Heath 500[77]
1904 England Alf Common (1) England Sheffield United England Sunderland 520[78]
1904 Scotland Andy McCombie England Sunderland England Newcastle United 700[79]
1905 England Alf Common (2) England Sunderland England Middlesbrough 1,000[80]
1913 England Daniel Shea England West Ham United England Blackburn Rovers 2,000[81]
1913 England Tommy Barber England Bolton Wanderers England Aston Villa 2,000[82]
1914 England Percy Dawson Scotland Heart of Midlothian England Blackburn Rovers 2,500[83]
1920 England David Jack (1) England Plymouth Argyle England Bolton Wanderers 3,500[84]
1921 Scotland Tom Hamilton Scotland Kilmarnock England Preston North End 4,600[85]
1922 England Syd Puddefoot England West Ham United Scotland Falkirk 5,000[86]
1922 England Warney Cresswell England South Shields England Sunderland 5,500[87]
1925 England Bob Kelly England Burnley England Sunderland 6,500[88]
1928 England David Jack (2) England Bolton Wanderers England Arsenal 10,890[89]
1932 Argentina Bernabé Ferreyra Argentina Tigre Argentina River Plate 23,000[89]
1949 England Johnny Morris England Manchester United England Derby County 24,000[88]
1949 England Eddie Quigley England Sheffield Wednesday England Preston North End 26,500[88]
1950 Wales Trevor Ford England Aston Villa England Sunderland 30,000[88]
1951 England Jackie Sewell England Notts County England Sheffield Wednesday 34,500[88]
1952 Sweden Hans Jeppson Italy Atalanta Italy Napoli 52,000[89]
1954 Uruguay Juan Schiaffino Uruguay Peñarol Italy Milan 72,000[89]
1957 Argentina Omar Sivori Argentina River Plate Italy Juventus 93,000[89]
1961 Spain Luis Suárez Spain Barcelona Italy Inter Milan 152,000[89]
1963 Italy Angelo Sormani Italy Mantova Italy Roma 250,000[89]
1967 Denmark Harald Nielsen Italy Bologna Italy Inter Milan 300,000[90]
1968 Italy Pietro Anastasi Italy Varese Italy Juventus 500,000[89]
1973 Netherlands Johan Cruyff Netherlands Ajax Spain Barcelona 922,000[89]
1975 Italy Giuseppe Savoldi Italy Bologna Italy Napoli 1,200,000[89]
1976 Italy Paolo Rossi Italy Vicenza Italy Juventus 1,750,000[89]
1982 Argentina Diego Maradona (1) Argentina Boca Juniors Spain Barcelona 3,000,000[89]
1984 Argentina Diego Maradona (2) Spain Barcelona Italy Napoli 5,000,000[89]
1987 Netherlands Ruud Gullit Netherlands PSV Eindhoven Italy Milan 6,000,000[89]
1990 Italy Roberto Baggio Italy Fiorentina Italy Juventus 8,000,000[89]
1992 France Jean-Pierre Papin France Marseille Italy Milan 10,000,000[89]
1992 Italy Gianluca Vialli Italy Sampdoria Italy Juventus 12,000,000[89]
1992 Italy Gianluigi Lentini Italy Torino Italy Milan 13,000,000[89]
1996 Brazil Ronaldo (1) Netherlands PSV Eindhoven Spain Barcelona 13,200,000[89]
1996 England Alan Shearer England Blackburn Rovers England Newcastle United 15,000,000[91]
1997 Brazil Ronaldo (2) Spain Barcelona Italy Inter Milan 19,500,000[89]
1998 Brazil Denílson Brazil São Paulo Spain Real Betis 21,500,000[92][93]
1999 Italy Christian Vieri Italy Lazio Italy Inter Milan 32,000,000[94]
2000 Argentina Hernán Crespo Italy Parma Italy Lazio 35,500,000[94]
2000 Portugal Luís Figo Spain Barcelona Spain Real Madrid 37,000,000[94]
2001 France Zinedine Zidane Italy Juventus Spain Real Madrid 46,600,000[94]
2009 Brazil Kaká Italy Milan Spain Real Madrid 56,000,000[95]
2009 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo England Manchester United Spain Real Madrid 80,000,000[96]
2013 Wales Gareth Bale England Tottenham Hotspur Spain Real Madrid 86,000,000[97]
2016 France Paul Pogba Italy Juventus England Manchester United 89,000,000[98]
2017 Brazil Neymar Spain Barcelona France Paris Saint-Germain 198,000,000[3][4]

Thank you.

I wonder when the conversions were done. I'm focusing on the 1968 Anastasi move to Juve. This seems most likely to be the one I recalled. Albeit well over fifty-years ago, I feel pretty certain that the figure I read was £400,000. The disconnect might be explained by the difference between late 1960's exchange rates and those used in compiling the table. Of course it might also be explained by my memory fooling me. Still, I am confident it said £400k.

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8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Thank you.

I wonder when the conversions were done. I'm focusing on the 1968 Anastasi move to Juve. This seems most likely to be the one I recalled. Albeit well over fifty-years ago, I feel pretty certain that the figure I read was £400,000. The disconnect might be explained by the difference between late 1960's exchange rates and those used in compiling the table. Of course it might also be explained by my memory fooling me. Still, I am confident it said £400k.

source (the link is listed in my post)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/23903470

 

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It was 650 million lire

(it looks like they made a mistake) it was more like 437,500 or so quid in summer 1968 (June to September rough average)

here are the rates for 650m ITL in GBP for every month of 1968

https://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates.php?A=650000000&C1=ITL&C2=GBP&MA=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=1968&B=1&P=&I=1&DD2=31&MM2=12&YYYY2=1968&btnOK=Go!

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