cosmicway 1,333 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Vesper said: Mengele in Brasil Nein, nein und nein. All this is inaccurate. Mengele was in Buenos Ayres and he did n't even change his name. He was in the phone book as Josef Mangele. In the year 1961 West Germany made a formal extradition request and while the Argentinians were looking at it, Mengele decided to go underground. He fled to Paraguay and then to Brazil using false names and he was hiding. The Israeli Mossad, CIA, Brazilian police could not find him and when they finally located his hideout in 1979 they found he had died. So Brazil was a case of lax immigration controls, easy to hid in the jungles but no rat lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, cosmicway said: Nein, nein und nein. All this is inaccurate. Mengele was in Buenos Ayres and he did n't even change his name. He was in the phone book as Josef Mangele. In the year 1961 West Germany made a formal extradition request and while the Argentinians were looking at it, Mengele decided to go underground. He fled to Paraguay and then to Brazil using false names and he was hiding. The Israeli Mossad, CIA, Brazilian police could not find him and when they finally located his hideout in 1979 they found he had died. So Brazil was a case of lax immigration controls, easy to hid in the jungles but no rat lines. to claim there were not rat-lines to Brasil from Nazi Germany is pure, unadulterated bollocks m8 sorry I have direct knowledge of it, from people whose families literally did it, plus the overwhelming forms of documentation online my posts all stand done here Edited December 18, 2022 by Vesper Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: to claim there were not rat-lines to Brasil from Nazi Germany is pure, unadulterated bollocks m8 sorry I have direct knowledge of it, from people whose families literally did it, plus the overwhelming forms of documentation online my posts all stand done here Show me documentation of rat lines to Brazil, as opposed to sneaking into Brazil (and Brazil being an easy place to live for a nazi). The rat lines were from Genoa to Argentine and I don't know about Uruguay-Paraguay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 OK locking this thread now -its got too political -continue in Politics Thread YorkshireBlue and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 19 hours ago, Vesper said: oh to be in Buenos Aires tonight, LOLOL Important to remember that all the beer that was brought in for the World Cup and then unable to be used is being flown to Buenos Aires. That party will go on for a week. Fernando and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 FIFA approves plans for expanded Club World Cup in 2025 with Chelsea, Real Madrid qualifying automatically https://theathletic.com/4307281/2023/03/14/fifa-club-world-cup-2025-teams/ FIFA has approved plans for an expanded Club World Cup in 2025, with Chelsea and Real Madrid handed automatic qualification spots. The current format of the tournament involves seven teams competing for the title, but FIFA president Gianni Infantino revealed plans in December for an expanded 32-team tournament from June 2025 and FIFA approved the proposal at its council meeting in Rwanda on Tuesday. The new format of the tournament will consist of eight groups of four, with the top two teams of each group going through to a knockout round. As the last two winners of the Champions League, Chelsea, and Real Madrid will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament and two more spots will be issued to the 2023 and 2024 Champions League winners. As the Copa Libertadores is currently due to be held in November, South American clubs would not have finished their qualification tournaments in time to qualify for the new Club World Cup that year. The new 32-team tournament is scheduled for 2025 and then 2029, but the current seven-team format will continue in its current December slot in 2024 — and in the years between the bumper version. That smaller tournament will run under a new name. Speaking at a press conference ahead of the World Cup final in December, Infantino said the expanded tournament would be “like a World Cup”. The international match calendar will be altered from 2025, with one extended break taking in four matches in late September and early October replacing two separate windows in September and October. The governing body said that the other windows — in November, March and June — would remain unchanged. Since taking over from Sepp Blatter in 2016, Infantino has sought to expand the Club World Cup and add to the pool of teams. Speaking in 2016, he said: “Today football is not just about Europe and South America. The world has changed and that’s why we need to make the Club World Cup more interesting for teams, and also for fans around the world.” Real Madrid are the current holders of the Club World Cup after defeating Saudi Arabia’s Al Hilal last month to win the trophy for a record fifth time. GO DEEPER The FIFA Club World Cup: Infantino's proposed changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,172 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, piablunt said: He estado trabajando en la industria del turismo durante mucho tiempo. Es por eso que a menudo vuelo por trabajo a diferentes partes del mundo. Suelo alquilar un coche cuando vuelo a algún sitio. Porque es más seguro, más cómodo y puedes ver más en tu propio transporte. Por cierto, cuando volé a España, conocí a varios jugadores del Real Madrid. https://rental24h.com/es/spain/mallorca-airport/ok-rent-a-car sod off spammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVINAA 129 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 FIFA announce the first-ever 32-team Club World Cup in 2025 will be held in the United States Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) So another competition which you now don’t need to actually win anything to enter? Hmmmm. How does that work…. And I thought after the Super League fiasco they were clamping down on these sort of buy a place competition because of who the club is 💰💰💰💰 Edited June 23, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 This was of great interest until 1970. The South American teams were keeping their players and there were no transfers to Europe, or very few. So it was a clash of giants. But the South Americans were not very friendly. United played in the intercontinental final of 1968 and they got a few kicks down in Argentina. Then with AC Milan, il notte del fuoco. Then Ajax abstained and Panathinaikos took his place against National Montevideo. The Uruguayans did n't really want to hurt the Greeks - only one player in hospital. Now it's not such a big deal because all the good South Americans play in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: So another competition which you now don’t need to actually win anything to enter? Hmmmm. How does that work…. And I thought after the Super League fiasco they were clamping down on these sort of buy a place competition because of who the club is 💰💰💰💰 You have to win something. It will be once every 4 years and from my understanding last 4 CL winners and last 4 EL winners will represent Europe. Fernando and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 15 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: You have to win something. It will be once every 4 years and from my understanding last 4 CL winners and last 4 EL winners will represent Europe. Hmm. Still, why the last 4 of each? Seems stupid. But money talks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 So in the end last 4 CL winners and 8 best teams on ranking from Europe. Unless Arsenal wins CL this season which is extremely unlikely only Chelsea and City from England. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 (edited) Real wants more money reading between the lines. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40318455/real-madrid-reject-club-world-cup-place-carlo-ancelotti Real Madrid to reject Club World Cup place - Carlo Ancelotti Edited June 10, 2024 by NikkiCFC Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Why Chelsea are early supporters of the new Club World Cup https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5572456/2024/06/19/Chelsea-club-world-cup/ This time next year, FIFA expects to launch the new expanded version of the Club World Cup in the United States, with 32 teams from around the globe competing for supremacy. Chelsea, having completed a second consecutive season without Champions League football, will be back among the elite of the club game. FIFA’s decision to introduce a new competition, which promises 63 matches over a month, to a stretch of the crowded football calendar normally reserved for major international tournaments or summer holidays for players has been controversial. FIFPro and the World Leagues Association have threatened legal action, accusing the governing body of not showing enough consideration for player welfare and the organisation of domestic leagues. GO DEEPER Why are Napoli - and other teams - now so keen to qualify for the men's Club World Cup? But none of those concerns are shared in the corridors of power at Stamford Bridge. Chelsea can be considered enthusiastic early supporters of the Club World Cup, and are factoring it into their decision-making on many levels — not least the move to mutually part with Mauricio Pochettino this summer and hire Enzo Maresca as head coach on a five-year contract. Chelsea were looking at what lies ahead as effectively a double season, with two domestic campaigns bookending the Club World Cup. They wanted to ensure they had a long-term coach in place who fit within their structure and culture to minimise disruption ahead of the tournament. Maresca ticks those boxes to a degree they concluded that Pochettino simply did not. The most urgent priority for Maresca is to lead Chelsea back into the Champions League by securing a top-four finish in the Premier League in 2024-25. But the new Club World Cup is viewed internally alongside the FA Cup, Carabao Cup and Europa Conference League as a serious trophy for him and his squad to target. Considerable thought is also being put into how Chelsea’s squad might be best constructed to deal with as many as 75 or 80 competitive matches across all competitions over the next 12 months. There are also considerations on how pre-season preparations for the 2025-26 campaign might need to be modified in light of Club World Cup exertions. But on the whole, Chelsea do not believe the summer of 2025 will prove any more challenging to navigate than this one, in which a significant number of their players have been called up to the European Championship, Copa America and Olympics. In fact, one arguable benefit of the Club World Cup is that clubs can more directly manage the workload and training schedules of their players than they can influence the approach of national teams. For all the difficulties it poses, the expanded Club World Cup presents what all elite clubs are perennially searching for: a potentially lucrative opportunity for revenue growth. Chelsea’s qualification for the inaugural edition of the competition, secured by winning the Champions League in 2020-21, is already having a positive impact on their “enterprise value” according to respected data and analytics platform Football Benchmark. FIFA is yet to confirm what money will be on offer for Club World Cup participants and the eventual winner as negotiations drag on with potential broadcast and sponsorship partners. Even so, the eventual figures are expected to be meaningful even for a club with Chelsea’s revenue, which broke the £500million ($635m) barrier for the first time in their 2022-23 accounts. As detailed in The Athletic earlier this month, FIFA still has several significant hurdles to overcome to get the expanded Club World Cup off the ground. Chief among them are finalising broadcast deals that balance guaranteed income with TV visibility for a new competition, and sponsorship agreements on a level that ensures they can make participating financially worthwhile for some of Europe’s leading clubs. But there is no doubt at Chelsea that FIFA will make president Gianni Infantino’s big idea a reality next summer, and that it will grow over time into a prized fixture in the football calendar every four years. Real Madrid, despite the public comments of coach Carlo Ancelotti, will participate in 2025. So too will Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, Inter Milan, Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Porto, Benfica and Red Bull Salzburg. The last two years have underlined that Chelsea are no longer guaranteed to compete in such rarefied European company. But they could also face the Copa Libertadores holders or the Champions League winners from North America, Asia or Africa. It is the truly global nature of the tournament that distinguishes it and could make it resonate particularly with the huge numbers of elite European club supporters who live overseas. Chelsea view their participation in the Club World Cup as a valuable opportunity to engage with and further grow their sizeable worldwide fanbase. America is a helpful choice of host in that sense — offering a wide range of large, modern stadiums surrounded by hotels and facilities attractive to travelling supporters. There is also the prospect of FIFA partnering with a global streaming platform, making tournament matches readily available to watch on smartphones and tablets anywhere in the world. Most important of all, it is a grand international stage that Chelsea can safely incorporate into their plans. The same cannot be said for the Champions League, though it is hoped that their exile from Europe’s elite club competition is nearing its end. GO DEEPER One year until the Club World Cup in the United States - what's going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 On 10/06/2024 at 18:36, NikkiCFC said: Real wants more money reading between the lines. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40318455/real-madrid-reject-club-world-cup-place-carlo-ancelotti Real Madrid to reject Club World Cup place - Carlo Ancelotti Real Madrid, despite the public comments of coach Carlo Ancelotti, will participate in 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KEVINAA 129 Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) @FIFACWC official account on X Edited September 4, 2024 by KEVINAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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