Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 First half was poor, second half he improved a lot. Was very solid imo. They could not get past him.Two thingsa) he stopped being completely complacent with sky high ego and nonchalant with everything he doesb ) Hull City run out of gas, they didn't press so one of biggest weaknesses of Ivanovic wasn't exploitedStill, good second half but his performance in the first was unexplainable. How the hell you can be so complacent without respect to an opponent when you're fighting for the title and your rivals won their respective matches ?? This alone deserves some big punishment.Another thing his absolutely loss of any decent acceleration, sure he wasn't sprinter in any moment of his career, but now he's definitely on a steady regression with his physique therefore he can't press opponent for his life and that's a big problem . When Jose picks that up ? If we want to play pressing game and be efficient in that, you can't play him, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Car crash lately, struggling with reading the game, the pace of it and is being passed very easily.It won't happen but Azpi at RB and Luis at LB is the very simple solution. mediator and ILoveLamp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Must revert to his natural position. Looks off the pace and simply not good enough for a full-back. I do believe he could be one of the worlds best CBs next season should he be more composed and limited from bombing forward like a maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 According to german media,Bayern want Ivanovic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 According to german media,Bayern want IvanovicRead the article in Bild through Google translate and indeed they say Guardiola has found Ivanovic as the perfect replacement for Rafinha, but at the same time they say Ivanovic is showing interest in their offer, too. Is the translation accurate? Do they really say Ivanovic is showing signs that he'd be willing to join Bayern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Read the article in Bild through Google translate and indeed they say Guardiola has found Ivanovic as the perfect replacement for Rafinha, but at the same time they say Ivanovic is showing interest in their offer, too. Is the translation accurate? Do they really say Ivanovic is showing signs that he'd be willing to join Bayern? I don't think Bild is a reliable source and moreover, why would Guardiola want a defender that is as limited as Ivanovic? He doesn't exactly suit his style of play, does he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ivanovic always makes those throw ins into the penalty box, has that ever lead to anything positive?Schurrles goal vs PSG last season, otherwise nothing I can remember. Joker10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Read the article in Bild through Google translate and indeed they say Guardiola has found Ivanovic as the perfect replacement for Rafinha, but at the same time they say Ivanovic is showing interest in their offer, too. Is the translation accurate? Do they really say Ivanovic is showing signs that he'd be willing to join Bayern?The heading of the article says : Ivanovic wants to join Bayern. I can't believe that, because it wouldn't make sense for Ivanovic and he is happy at Stamford Bridge given he is a nailed on starter under Mourinho. That being said Bild is the german equivalent of the Daily Mail so we shouldn't read much into it. petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I don't think Bild is reliable source and moreover, why would Guardiola want a defender that is as limited as Ivanovic? He doesn't exactly suit his style of play, does he?I remember someone (German) saying once that Bild are the closest media outlet to Bayern. I don't know why Guardiola would want him. Maybe he sees him as a perfect fit in his three-man defence, who knows. As a right centre-back, with Boateng in the middle and Badstuber as a left centre-back. Heard he rates Badstuber very highly and thinks he is one of the best ball playing defenders in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Read the article in Bild through Google translate and indeed they say Guardiola has found Ivanovic as the perfect replacement for Rafinha, but at the same time they say Ivanovic is showing interest in their offer, too. Is the translation accurate? Do they really say Ivanovic is showing signs that he'd be willing to join Bayern?I remember someone (German) saying once that Bild are the closest media outlet to Bayern. I don't know why Guardiola would want him. Maybe he sees him as a perfect fit in his three-man defence, who knows. As a right centre-back, with Boateng in the middle and Badstuber as a left centre-back. Heard he rates Badstuber very highly and thinks he is one of the best ball playing defenders in the world.Yes,Bild says that Guardiola wants Ivanovic and Ivanovic is ready to listen to their offers.Also,you are right that Bild is reliable,when it comes to Bayern.Apart from Bayern,they are most likely to talk BS about everything else petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I remember someone (German) saying once that Bild are the closest media outlet to Bayern. I don't know why Guardiola would want him. Maybe he sees him as a perfect fit in his three-man defence, who knows. As a right centre-back, with Boateng in the middle and Badstuber as a left centre-back. Heard he rates Badstuber very highly and thinks he is one of the best ball playing defenders in the world.Bayern may play with a 3-man defence but it's a high line defence and Ivanovic doesn't do well in that kind of system. petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Haha could you imagine? Mourinho's untouchable and beloved Ivanovic leaving him for Guardiola. That would be hilarious (and very good for our defence too). killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Haha could you imagine? Mourinho's untouchable and beloved Ivanovic leaving him for Guardiola. That would be hilarious (and very good for our defence too).It would be more hilarious to see the 2 best coaches in the world fighting for Ivanovic, and at the same time we look at this thread and some of the great genius in here think Ivanovic is not good enough. LOL Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Haha could you imagine? Mourinho's untouchable and beloved Ivanovic leaving him for Guardiola. That would be hilarious (and very good for our defence too).Ivanovic in a Pep team alone would be hilarious! His technique on the ball is terrible even next to Ramires, imagine how out of place he would looks next to the Bayern players The Chels and Belgiannutt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It would be more hilarious to see the 2 best coaches in the world fighting for Ivanovic, and at the same time we look at this thread and some of the great genius in here think Ivanovic is not good enough. LOLAssuming these incredibly unlikely rumours were to ever come to fruition then Ivanovic would be signed as a decent, experienced (and free) squad option but that's about it. Do you really think the likes of Guardiola and Simeone would make Ivanovic an 'untouchable'? They're not personally infatuated with him the way Jose is so no chance. The truth is that Ivanovic is neither intelligent nor technical nor athletic so he wouldn't fit either of those two managers' philosophies anyway.Oh and I'm interested in hearing your excuse for his first half performance yesterday or that against Southampton or that against PSG (or every game pretty much). Willian's fault for not doing all his defending for him? Damn you Willian! Belgiannutt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Assuming these incredibly unlikely rumours were to ever come to fruition then Ivanovic would be signed as a decent, experienced (and free) squad option but that's about it. Do you really think the likes of Guardiola and Simeone would make Ivanovic an 'untouchable'? They're not personally infatuated with him the way Jose is so no chance. The truth is that Ivanovic is neither intelligent nor technical nor athletic so he wouldn't fit either of those two managers' philosophies anyway.Oh and I'm interested in hearing your excuse for his first half performance yesterday or that against Southampton or that against PSG (or every game pretty much). Willian's fault for not doing all his defending for him? Damn you Willian!AH now they are unlikely rumours... things changed a lot in 15 minutes...I'm more interested to know your opinion about the game of FIlipe Luis in this last game...No they are not... like for example when Guardiola used Tello in the title game in 2011/2012 and in other games... and he played like shit in almost every game.You know... when you know nothing about things... it's better you don't talk about it. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It would be more hilarious to see the 2 best coaches in the world fighting for Ivanovic, and at the same time we look at this thread and some of the great genius in here think Ivanovic is not good enough. LOLHahahahah that is fuckin brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) AH now they are unlikely rumours... things changed a lot in 15 minutes...I'm more interested to know your opinion about the game of FIlipe Luis in this last game...No they are not... like for example when Guardiola used Tello in the title game in 2011/2012 and in other games... and he played like shit in almost every game.You know... when you know nothing about things... it's better you don't talk about it.Point me to where I said these rumours were ever likely? I didn't. Please learn to read.Luis showed that he is incredibly calm on the ball and technically very good. His positioning was off at times, there's no doubt but that's something that he never had issues with last season and is therefore likely an adjustment/system issue.We shouldn't talk about things we know nothing about but you're still talking about La Liga... Ok mate Forgotten this genius insight already? They can lose against Bilbao they are a really good team... but having problems with Elche, Real Sociedad, Valencia, Sevilla, etc, it's not normal at all. Edited March 23, 2015 by The Chels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Point me to where I said these rumours were ever likely? I didn't. Please learn to read.Luis showed that he is incredibly calm on the ball and technically very good. His positioning was off at times, there's no doubt but that's something that he never had issues with last season and is therefore likely an adjustment/system issue.We shouldn't talk about things we know nothing about but you're still talking about La Liga... Ok mate Forgotten this genius insight already?Yes about la Liga for Real Madrid to have problems winning against all those teams it's not normal at all, and also the same for Barcelona. What' wrong with that? I saw the last 300 or 400 games of Barcelona and Madrid if you want to talk about the time GUardiola was in Barcelona we can talk about everything you want.I never said the rumors were likely or not... I just said it would be more interesting to see the 2 best coaches ion the world fighting for a player that many genius here say he is really bad. You can't deny that's a lot more interesting. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yes about la Liga for Real Madrid to have problems winning against all those teams it's not normal at all, and also the same for Barcelona. What' wrong with that? I saw the last 300 or 400 games of Barcelona and Madrid if you want to talk about the time GUardiola was in Barcelona we can talk about everything you want.I never said the rumors were likely or not... I just said it would be more interesting to see the 2 best coaches ion the world fighting for a player that many genius here say he is really bad. You can't deny that's a lot more interesting.So it's acceptable for them to lose to Bilbao because they are a 'really good team' but not to Valencia/Sevilla? Right...Sigh I know you never said the rumours were likely. I asked you to point out where I said they were likely (since that's what you suggested). If you're going to be sarcastic and patronising in your replies then you should probably at least keep up with what's being said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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