Chelsea Transfers

[TheHulk 2,507]

Just now, Gundalf said:

You lost your credibility when u claimed that Mbappe is under 21 lol. 

I am talking about Mbappe when he signed for PSG, he was 19.

[TheHulk 2,507]

10 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

http://www.kridalegal.com/post.php?id=27#:~:text=It means that not only,relevant income with player sales.

Scroll down to youth development and ffp

And what's the explication for why these 2 guys from Ligue 1 don't count towards ffp yet Lavia playing in Championship counts. Makes zero sense.

Edited July 29, 2023 by TheHulk

[YorkshireBlue 3,295]

12 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

And what's the explication for why these 2 guys from Ligue 1 don't count towards ffp yet Lavia playing in Championship counts. Makes zero sense.

Google it, do I look like your bloody secretary? 

[Gundalf 806]

3 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

I am talking about Mbappe when he signed for PSG, he was 19.

Bc he was registered for the first team. We register this guy for the academy, loan him out and only register him for the first team when he comes back. Additions to the academy dont count. 

You count as an academy player when your under 21 and are registered for the Academy

1.1.3  Academy Player means for the purpose of this Appendix 5 only, a male player (other than an Amateur Player or a Trialist) who is in an age group between Under 9 to Under 21 and who is registered for and who is coached by or plays football for or at a Club which operates an Academy pursuant to the Youth Development Rules save for any Player who has made 10 or more starting appearances for

[Tomo 21,751]

27 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

What narrative am I making up that we're getting 2 French guys for almost 50m and some here pretend it doesn't count towards ffp because they are under 21? I never heard of such bullshit, Mbappe, Hojlund, Lavia all under 21 and all count towards ffp but narrative is Boehly knows some shit and despite us spending a shit ton on kids none count towards ffp, where the proof to this?

Like I said, is there any evidence that money is even potentially a difference maker to being able to afford Caicedo or not?

[lucio 5,418]

We gonna be dropping 25m+ on academy players ?  But not get a Gk , shame 

[Gundalf 806]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Like I said, is there any evidence that money is even potentially a difference maker to being able to afford Caicedo or not?

If so we would have accepted the West Ham bid for Gallagher instantly. He would be pure profit. 

Edited July 29, 2023 by Gundalf

[TheHulk 2,507]

7 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Bc he was registered for the first team. We register this guy for the academy, loan him out and only register him for the first team when he comes back. Additions to the academy dont count. 

You count as an academy player when your under 21 and are registered for the Academy

1.1.3  Academy Player means for the purpose of this Appendix 5 only, a male player (other than an Amateur Player or a Trialist) who is in an age group between Under 9 to Under 21 and who is registered for and who is coached by or plays football for or at a Club which operates an Academy pursuant to the Youth Development Rules save for any Player who has made 10 or more starting appearances for

So what's stopping us from registering Lavia for the academy, send him on loan for a year and after promote him to first team? 

[YorkshireBlue 3,295]

10 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

So what's stopping us from registering Lavia for the academy, send him on loan for a year and after promote him to first team? 

This doesn't even warrant an answer 🤷🤦

[Mário César 1,327]

can anyone give me a resume why our club spend so much money in youngster and not in our primary squad? 

[Gundalf 806]

4 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

So what's stopping us from registering Lavia for the academy, send him on loan for a year and after promote him to first team? 

Nothing in theory but why would Lavia accept this when he could play first team football with Liverpool? Its just another little loophole that Boehly is exploiting, just like the one with the long contracts. If u do it too often and too obvious, its gonna be closed. And the player has to accept this. 

On the other hand, when Poch decides to keep that guy in the squad for next season, ofc the fee counts on FFP.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Gundalf

[Gundalf 806]

5 minutes ago, Mário César said:

can anyone give me a resume why our club spend so much money in youngster and not in our primary squad? 

Is it even that much? Santos is primary squad, Angelo almost. Who else is there this summer?

We already spent 130m on first team additions for this year on Nkunku, Jackson, Gusto, with Caicedo almost 220m. Only bc some deals were agreed earlier doesnt make them for free^^

Edited July 29, 2023 by Gundalf

[Vegetable 830]

If I understand what you are guys talking about what we are doing is so blatantly against spirit of FFP, that I can smell the incoming transfer ban already 😂

[Mário César 1,327]

12 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Is it even that much? Santos is primary squad, Angelo almost. Who else is there this summer?

We already spent 130m on first team additions for this year on Nkunku, Jackson, Gusto, with Caicedo almost 220m. Only bc some deals were agreed earlier doesnt make them for free^^

IF we count last season, how many money we spend in youngsters?

[Gundalf 806]

1 minute ago, Vegetable said:

If I understand what you are guys talking about what we are doing is so blatantly against spirit of FFP, that I can smell the incoming transfer ban already 😂

Well it sticks to the rules 😇

Just like the long contract thing to spread transfer fee - maybe UEFA will close that loophole as well soon. Ig the moaning from the likes of Neville and Carragher will start when we sell these kids for double the money. "THEY CHEAT WITH FFP ---- AGAIN----!!111 *cry* *cry* *cry*

Just now, Mário César said:

IF we count last season, how many money we spend in youngsters?

Idk man, u tell me, I have lost count^^ Im sure I forgot some

Angelo, Santos, Casadei, Chukwu, Rennes guy....anyone else?

[lucio 5,418]

24 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

If so we would have accepted the West Ham bid for Gallagher instantly. He would be pure profit. 

We should have done 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,823]

Regarding the FFP calculation. The exemption from FFP is both under 21 and how many first team starts they have made for a top level team. The frustrating point for us casual fans is that we don’t know how many starts that is and the team tier system UEFA is using as they do not publish their FFP rules online.

[Gundalf 806]

1 minute ago, lucio said:

We should have done 

For footballing reasons, yes, but obviously we dont need that money so desperately. 

[Gundalf 806]

 

 

[Gundalf 806]

Youngers bought in the last year:

• Ugo: £23.5m
• Chukwu: £15m
• Angelo £13m
• Casadei: £13m
• Santos: £11m
• Fofana: £10m
• Slonina: £8m
• Moreira: £0m

That makes £93,5m for 8 players - an average of £11,7m per player. 

I bet my 2 balls that all of them will be worth more than that in 1 or 2 years. Some even significantly more than that. This is an investment in the future of this club, we will benefit from that either way: either these players have the quality to strenghten our squad (and most look like they could) or we sell them with some profit. 

Especially Angelo, Casadei and Santos will be seen as some of the smartest moves of the last 10 years.

 

Have I missed some Brazilians that we signed?? Bc I always hear people here talking about signing so many Brazilian youngsters but we only signed 2?

Edited July 29, 2023 by Gundalf