robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: You forgot to add the young perma-wrecked CB and our captain/best fullback playing 10 games a season. 🤔 Well yeah. That's a WC player when fit right there. Even lacking match fitness he imposes respect. Had James been remotely fit, and Gusto's inconsistency wouldn't be a an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,477 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, robsblubot said: Sure I got your point, but disagree. Sometimes a dud is a dud. It's a very odd position for me now because I was one of the few here criticizing Maresca's signing when it happened. Mount was the definition of dud. Edited January 29 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Mount was the definition of dud. And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,477 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, robsblubot said: And? And Tuchel actually found a role for him, that's was great managers do. There are a handful of reasons already for why no one should trust Maresca in judging players, the fact you calling Felix a dud when he wasn't even given a run of games is crazy. It was said Veiga left to play CB yet in his latest interview said he would play wherever the manager wants him to, means he couldn't wait to get rid of Maresca. Nkunku and Felix as well can't wait to see out the season with us, already want to go. Edited January 29 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, TheHulk said: And Tuchel actually found a role for him, that's was great managers do. There are a handful of reasons already for why no one should trust Maresca in judging players, the fact you calling Felix a dud when he wasn't even given a run of games is crazy. And? Did I saw Maresca was a great manager? My point was that Marcesca was exactly the same at the time he was hired: a project just like the squad. Felix is 25 and no manager has ever found a way for him to deliver at this level. He was the cheapest buy we got last window. Never seen a player as disinterested as Nkunku against City. People can claim lack of motivation, but for me that's unacceptable and shows a lack of professionalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 🔴EXCL: Arsenal have approached Aston Villa to sign Ollie Watkins. Fee in the region of £60m. No agreement or decision yet but talks with #AVFC & player representatives advancing as AFC try to land striker before deadline day 🕰️ Aston Villa want to get Joao Felix in before they consider selling Ollie Watkins. Watkins wants the move. 😵😵 Fernando and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,477 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 17 minutes ago, robsblubot said: And? Did I saw Maresca was a great manager? My point was that Marcesca was exactly the same at the time he was hired: a project just like the squad. Felix is 25 and no manager has ever found a way for him to deliver at this level. He was the cheapest buy we got last window. Never seen a player as disinterested as Nkunku against City. People can claim lack of motivation, but for me that's unacceptable and shows a lack of professionalism. No but you are defending the manager by saying Felix is a dud and basing it of his former clubs, I have no issue with people not rating Felix and calling him poor but least give him a real chance before that so we can all see it, right now if he leaves and he balls at his next club, it will be another what if because the manager couldn't even bother doing some tweaks and integrate him. Nkunku went worse as the season passed, yeah it's most likely motivation. You can call it lack of professionalism but when you know you have no future here, why even bother anymore. Maresca has made sure to seclude some players and not make them feel part of the team. Wouldn't surprise me if Jorgensen doesn't bother either, looking in disgust how he isn't even given a chance while Sanchez throws shit on the wall each match. Look at Rudiger when his contract was ending, kept giving it his all, why? Because Tuchel made sure to make him feel part of the squad and important. Edited January 29 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, TheHulk said: No but you are defending the manager by saying Felix is a dud and basing it of his former clubs, I have no issue with people not rating Felix and calling him poor but least give him a real chance before that so we can all see it, right now if he leaves and he balls at his next club, it will be another what if because the manager couldn't even bother doing some tweaks and integrate him. Nkunku went worse as the season passed, yeah it's most likely motivation. You can call it lack of professionalism but when you know you have no future here, why even bother anymore. Maresca has made sure to seclude some players and not make them feel part of the team. Felix doesn’t fit a system he’s asked to play in, it’s that simple… any player can leave any club and ball it happens all the time, I base Felix on his performances so far in the league and the b tec European cup, against weaker opponents he hasn’t stood out, I know you like him but saying he hasn’t had chances is wild, he’s had enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 🔴⚪️ Aston Villa have rejected today an official bid from Arsenal for Ollie Watkins. Proposal around £60m turned down as Villa are not happy with timing of the bid, ahead of crucial UCL game for the club. 👀🇸🇦 Villa are also in active talks with Al Nassr for Jhon Durán. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Tel has not yet rejected Chelsea but Spurs, Arsenal and Manchester United are all in talks with his camp. (@kerry_hau) Leeds nil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 22 minutes ago, mkh said: 🔴EXCL: Arsenal have approached Aston Villa to sign Ollie Watkins. Fee in the region of £60m. No agreement or decision yet but talks with #AVFC & player representatives advancing as AFC try to land striker before deadline day 🕰️ Aston Villa want to get Joao Felix in before they consider selling Ollie Watkins. Watkins wants the move. 😵😵 Smart move. Watkins is the better striker at Villa who has handled the burden of being the striker in a large sample of games starting week in week out The board waiting around on 19-22 year olds as usual - It would be crazy if Villa sell a premium striker and we are not in the conversation mkh and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TheHulk said: No but you are defending the manager by saying Felix is a dud and basing it of his former clubs, I have no issue with people not rating Felix and calling him poor but least give him a real chance before that so we can all see it, right now if he leaves and he balls at his next club, it will be another what if because the manager couldn't even bother doing some tweaks and integrate him. Nkunku went worse as the season passed, yeah it's most likely motivation. You can call it lack of professionalism but when you know you have no future here, why even bother anymore. Maresca has made sure to seclude some players and not make them feel part of the team. Wouldn't surprise me if Jorgensen doesn't bother either, looking in disgust how he isn't even given a chance while Sanchez throws shit on the wall each match. Look at Rudiger when his contract was ending, kept giving it his all, why? Because Tuchel made sure to make him feel part of the squad and important. And you are not going to change my mind on Felix. I don't rate him at all and think his career speaks volumes. What you are doing here I've seen 100 times before: when a team is underperforming, it's because the player sitting on the bench is under/not used. Because fans magically know what is best for the team. Both manager and goalkeeping coach, not to mention the rest of the staff who work with these players every day know nothing, because "we the fans" know that Jorgensen would've been FAR better at the job. Hint: we do not know that. Marcesca is no Tuchel, but I'm still trying to find where someone said he was. Edited January 29 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,477 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Felix doesn’t fit a system he’s asked to play in, it’s that simple… any player can leave any club and ball it happens all the time, I base Felix on his performances so far in the league and the b tec European cup, against weaker opponents he hasn’t stood out, I know you like him but saying he hasn’t had chances is wild, he’s had enough You don't even know what you talking about honestly, he was one of the best players against Noah and Panathinaikos, played decent against Gent, and the other 2 didn't even start. He started 3 matches in the PL and was more than decent against Leicester and Southampton, poor against Ipswich, where's this chance he got? He couldn't even build some rhythm like Noni was allowed to see if he picks it up. The fact some of you saying he got a fair chance is pure bollocks. Edited January 29 by TheHulk Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,477 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 7 minutes ago, robsblubot said: And you are not going to change my mind on Felix. I don't rate him at all and think his career speaks volumes. What you are doing here I've seen 100 times before: when a team is underperforming, it's because the player sitting on the bench is under/not used. Because fans magically know what is best for the team. Fuck the millionaire manager who watches and trains the players every day. Both manager and goalkeeping coach, not to mention the rest of the staff know nothing, because "we the fans" know the Jorgensen would've been FAR better at the job. Hint: we do not know that. Marcesca is no Tuchel, but I'm still trying to find where someone said he was. I already told you 4 or 5 things that should make anyone doubt Maresca and his ability to judge players only from what we've seen so far, if this shit with Felix and Nkunku happened without any of the other shenanigans, you would have a point but the man continues to make strange decision after strange decision, please excuse me and others for starting to doubt his judgement and ability to evaluate a performance. Edited January 29 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, TheHulk said: I already told you 4 or 5 things that should make anyone doubt Maresca and his ability to judge players only from what we've seen so far, if this shit with Felix and Nkunku happened without any of the other shenanigans, you would have a point but the man continues to make strange decision after strange decision, please excuse me and others for starting to doubt his judgement and ability to evaluate a performance. and I don't agree with any of it. 🤷♂️ I think PL can be picky as a league and certain players don't do well here. My prediction is that switching managers will accomplish nothing. We will see in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, TheHulk said: You don't even know what you talking about honestly, he was one of the best players against Noah and Panathinaikos, played decent against Gent, and the other 2 didn't even start. He started 3 matches in the PL and was more than decent against Leicester and Southampton, poor against Ipswich, where's this chance he got? He couldn't even build some rhythm like Noni was allowed to see if he picks it up. The fact some of you saying he got a fair chance is pure bollocks. He wasn't even racking up the goals against the small teams like Nkunku was + while I think he would be useful vs low blocks, he has been poor in the chances he did get and hasn't influenced games when he has come on to make a case for starts. He's always been accommodated and given starts because of his reputation in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,477 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Strike said: He wasn't even racking up the goals against the small teams like Nkunku was + while I think he would be useful vs low blocks, he has been poor in the chances he did get and hasn't influenced games when he has come on to make a case for starts. He's always been accommodated and given starts because of his reputation in my view. Would help if he scored penalties like Nkunku, who took 5 penalties and scored 4 goals. Without penalties Felix has 7 goals, while Nkunku 9 in 300 more minutes. Were was he accommodated, he will leave this club and Maresca still didn't even bother trying him in the middle with Cole on RW where he looked very good last season. I dread to see him get his hands on Estevao, who already said he'd like to play in the middle, Maresca most likely won't even bother trying him there if he doesn't cut it on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Would help if he scored penalties like Nkunku, who took 5 penalties and scored 4 goals. Without penalties Felix has 7 goals, while Nkunku 9 in 300 more minutes. Were was he accommodated, he will leave this club and Maresca still didn't even bother trying him in the middle with Cole on RW where he looked very good last season. I dread to see him get his hands on Estevao, who already said he'd like to play in the middle, Maresca most likely won't even bother trying him there if he doesn't cut it on the wing. I disagree with the view. He has the worst workrate of any of the attacking mids at the club. Only games to consider Felix was vs low blocks where we don't need a lot of running from midfielders. Otherwise, we would be more open than we already are in games. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Strike said: I disagree with the view. He has the worst workrate of any of the attacking mids at the club. Only games to consider Felix was vs low blocks where we don't need a lot of running from midfielders. Otherwise, we would be more open than we already are in games. Agreed on Felix, which is the reason he was employed as a false 9 last time here, and wasn't great either: had a few good games initially then his laziness was apparently on every match. For the record, Estevao is nothing like Felix already; even as young as he is, he's always looking to get the ball and participate in all team movements. While I don't expect him to dominate the league at his age, I do think he has the potential to become a very special player. Edited January 29 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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