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[Blues Forever 1,232]

Zouma and Tomori are decent but i don't think both of them are good enough against Messi, Ronaldo, Aguero, and Mbappe. If we are truly aiming to win PL and CL next season, we needs to buy a WC CB since none of our current CBs are WC material. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

2 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Zouma and Tomori are decent but i don't think both of them are good enough against Messi, Ronaldo, Aguero, and Mbappe. If we are truly aiming to win PL and CL next season, we needs to buy a WC CB since none of our current CBs are WC material. 

Eh? They are good enough against Mane and Salah, two players who probably have done better the past year than those mentioned bar Messi. 

[1905didierblue 748]

11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Do you think we can win PL or CL with Tomori - Zouma pairing? 

Based on the way both these players are improving, yes.

Hell, we won a CL with Cahill and Luiz as CBs, bosingwa as rb.

Moreover, I don't think it's simply about zouma and tomori. It's about the whole squad. Zouma, tomori, Andreas, ake/Rudi are 4 very good CBs. With the way lamps is designing the squad, the way it's all about meritocracy, there won't be any entitlement of starting 11 place. 

The way zouma and tomori have performed and stepped up since the pool game, I don't think there is any team that we can't go toe to toe. The issue is consistency and concentration, which will come with more experience and time. Don't forget that zouma just turned 25 and tomori is 21 

[1905didierblue 748]

11 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Zouma and Tomori are decent but i don't think both of them are good enough against Messi, Ronaldo, Aguero, and Mbappe. If we are truly aiming to win PL and CL next season, we needs to buy a WC CB since none of our current CBs are WC material. 

Here, I would like to ask a question: Which defenders are good enough against the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, aguero, and mbappe?

I would honestly like to know.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 hour ago, 1905didierblue said:

Here, I would like to ask a question: Which defenders are good enough against the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, aguero, and mbappe?

I would honestly like to know.

Varane, Koulibaly, and Van Dijk.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Eh? They are good enough against Mane and Salah, two players who probably have done better the past year than those mentioned bar Messi. 

Mane and Salah are still below Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, and Aguero level.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

22 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Mane and Salah are still below Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, and Aguero level.

I disagree 

[killer1257 3,282]

 

 

Imagine Tammy having a teammate that actually is very Creative and can play world class passes in most situations.

Tammy would explode.

 

I just hope we go for Ziyech. I don't think that Sancho offers as much as Ziyech would offer us

 

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[King Kante 1,643]

12 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

Based on the way both these players are improving, yes.

Hell, we won a CL with Cahill and Luiz as CBs, bosingwa as rb.

Moreover, I don't think it's simply about zouma and tomori. It's about the whole squad. Zouma, tomori, Andreas, ake/Rudi are 4 very good CBs. With the way lamps is designing the squad, the way it's all about meritocracy, there won't be any entitlement of starting 11 place. 

The way zouma and tomori have performed and stepped up since the pool game, I don't think there is any team that we can't go toe to toe. The issue is consistency and concentration, which will come with more experience and time. Don't forget that zouma just turned 25 and tomori is 21 

The biggest problem is that neither of them can organise the back line (Tomori could maybe do this in time but looks more like a recovery CB2.) Both are very good at doing their job and playing well right now but to be CB1 you need to take charge of the back line. This is the reason we have conceeded so many goals as we do not have anyone organising, well that and Kepa being unable to controll his six yard area. I mean the way some people go on about the CB's you would think that as a team we are hardly letting any goals in when we have actually conceeded goals like a midtable team. 

[Styl1994 188]

Imo in the summer we need 

back up goalkeeper 

left back 

maybe CDM 

one RW/LW 

striker 

[the wes 7,212]

1 hour ago, Styl1994 said:

Imo in the summer we need 

back up goalkeeper 

left back 

maybe CDM 

one RW/LW 

striker 

CB ???

[1905didierblue 748]

2 hours ago, King Kante said:

The biggest problem is that neither of them can organise the back line (Tomori could maybe do this in time but looks more like a recovery CB2.) Both are very good at doing their job and playing well right now but to be CB1 you need to take charge of the back line. This is the reason we have conceeded so many goals as we do not have anyone organising, well that and Kepa being unable to controll his six yard area. I mean the way some people go on about the CB's you would think that as a team we are hardly letting any goals in when we have actually conceeded goals like a midtable team. 

In the last 6 pl games, since the Liverpool game, we have conceded just 4 goals. 

2 against Burnley after being 4-0 up, where we just switched off. Also it was more on the mid (jorginho and kova) tiring after the ajax away game rather than the defence making mistakes. 

1 goal against Watford. Softest of penalties I have ever seen. Also jorginho mistake. 

Only goal that was on the defence was the soton goal.

Irrespective, since the zouma-tomori partnership has taken hold, we have been brilliant defensively. Even the games like caraboa cup and ajax, it was far more on the full backs rather than the center backs, and infact mostly on Alonso. If zouma and tomori continue this (4 goals in 6 PL games stuff), there is no reason to go out and spend big money when can do that to buy on a LB, second striker, RW (Sancho if willian don't extend). Those are far more important.