Chelsea Transfers

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52 minutes ago, Jason said:

Best to pass judgment until we see how he does back on the field. 

I admit, this Rudiger as chronically injured thing is now creeping into my head

oh fuck me sideways 

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Chelsea’s Fikayo Tomori reveals Blues’ fastest player

https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/chelsea/chelseas-fikayo-tomori-reveals-blues-fastest-player

Chelsea defender Fikayo Tomori has been on a meteoric rise to prominence at Stamford Bridge this season, having made 13 of his 14 senior Blues appearances this term and earned his maiden call-up to the England squad in October.

One of the traits Tomori has been able to fall back on to help solidify his emerging partnership with Kurt Zouma has been the Canada-born centre-half’s pace, even though the topic has caused him some frustrations already this season.

Tomori joked about his anger on Match of the Day at the start of the month, as his pace stats on FIFA 20 are lower than those of Callum Hudson-Odoi, even though he is adamant the winger is not faster than him.

Head coach Frank Lampard discussed the matter ahead of facing Watford, as well, and noted that the defender is indeed quick, but should use his newfound status at Stamford Bridge to demonstrate his qualities on a consistent basis.

But this has not stopped Tomori from adding another piece of wood to the fire, it would seem, as the 21-year-old again refused to accept that Hudson-Odoi, or Tammy Abraham, is faster than him as he shunned the pair during a Questions and Answers session on Chelsea’s official Instagram stories feed.

When asked who the fastest member of the first-team in West London is, Tomori acknowledged one Blues teammate as being as quick as he is in Antonio Rudiger, with the £45million-rated defender potentially the Blues’ fastest player in his opinion.

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Manchester United gossip: Seven targets in January, Chelsea to sell three

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-gossip-signings-latest-17220656

Chelsea prepared to sell three veterans

Chelsea are ready to shuffle their deck in the January transfer window by allowing Olivier Giroud, Marcos Alonso and Pedro to leave Stamford Bridge, the Daily Mail states.

The trio have all struggled for first-team opportunities so far this season, with both Giroud and Pedro able to discuss contracts with foreign clubs in the New Year ahead of their contract expiry at the end of the season.

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Chelsea: Darren Bent urges Blues to buy Leicester City’s Ben Chilwell

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/features/pundits-choice/chelsea-darren-bent-urges-blues-to-buy-leicester-citys-ben-chilwell/

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

I still think Emerson, Rudiger, Christensen and James are our best possible back four and last month barely any of them played. In my book we are playing with second unit defense for most of the season plus Kante injured all the time. So no surprise we conceded so many goals. 

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Oki lets list out the sales and the revenues generated, and some of these are already done

I am being really pretty realistic on these numbers too (the speculative, not locked-in numbers)

 

£135m Hazard 

£9m Ola Aina

£8m Kalas

£8m Luiz

£8m Hector

£5m Omeruo

£30m Bakayoko

£30m Bats

£50m Morata

£30m Alonso

£40m Zouma

£10m Moses

£13m Zappacosta

£12m Drinkwater

£25m Willian (if we renew him and sell)

£10m Baba

£7m Lewis Baker

£7m Juan Castillo

£13m Mario Pašalić

£8m Jake Clarke-Salter 

£10m Kenedy

£5m Matt Miazga

£2m Richard Nartey

£5m  Charly Musonda

£5m Lucas Piazón

£5m Danilo Pantic

£8  Izzy Brown

£8m Marco van Ginkel (when fully fit)

£25m Azpi

£3m  Jay Dasilva

£4m Kasey Palmer

£30m Barkely

£10m Pedro

£10m Giroud

 

that is £588m quid in gross sale revenue alone (and we have LOST well over £200m in potential valuations the last 2, 3 years due to fucked up sales and non sales and horrid contractual management or we could have had well over 3/4 of a BILLION quid total sales revenue)

many of those sales are already DONE (and the right numbers added in)

EVEN if I am off by £50m total 

that is bloody well OVER HALF A BILLION POUNDS STERLING (£538m)  WE CAN HAVE IN THE POT for summer 2020

 

so, yes, the goddamn money is THERE to grab these targets everyone is talking about

lets just drop these names

Konate or Romagnoli £70m

Chillwell £70m

Declan Rice £70m (I say Camavinga for the future (Kante can so mentor him, as they are both French), or Thomas Partey (who is only £45m with his release clause) for NOW, but the club is hellbent on Rice, which remains to be seen who is right or wrong)

Sancho £120m (he MAY be a wee bit cheaper, but I am show conservative numbers here to prove my point)

Werner £25m (due to low release clause)

 

TOTAL COST  £345M

LETS SAY I AM 10% UNDER-PRICING on the total (probably the CB's would be the most likely), well that leaves the total cost at £380m

That leaves us £143m to £193m net PROFIT from the sales listed AFTER the hedge

 

plus, we COULD sell AC AND Zouma

and buy BOTH Romagnoli AND Konate and it would still leave £90m to £140 NET PROFIT ( and that is WITH my 10% additional cost add-on hedge)

OR (as some have suggested, sell RUDIGER and NOT Zouma, plus AC (IF we go for both Konate and Romagnoli) and then you can add on and additional £15m to £20m or so to any of those net profit numbers)

That is NOT Football Manager, those are ALL HARD, realistic numbers, zero unrealistic maths

only thing is get the negotiations done and we have had AGES to plan this SHIT, so fuck right off Marina and Co. if you bollocks this shit up

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

I still think Emerson, Rudiger, Christensen and James are our best possible back four and last month barely any of them played. In my book we are playing with second unit defense for most of the season plus Kante injured all the time. So no surprise we conceded so many goals. 

plus no Kante a tonne of the time, wee baldy is a beast

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I can see the vapours now (Azpi out above and no RB listed to replace)

Hello Academy

Marc Guehi

or, if that is not good enough

buy

Timothy Castagne (tall, pacey Belgian) from Atalanta (as we still have, even in the worst case scenario) £63m to £113m in profit and we can grab him for around £20m or so

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7 hours ago, Nicco said:

Change Demble with Werner or Lautaro. Replace Rudiger with Zouma and put Diaz instead of Ake, rest looking good.

Rudi is an issue injury wise. Since 2015 he has had three injuries of over 100 days and another of 70 days+. If he breaks down again questions need to be asked about his ability to stay fit. I also agree on Ake, with a 6"1' keeper who cannot deal with balls into his six yard area, the last thing we need is another short CB. 

6 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

Why would we sell our best cb of this season? As well as most improved. 

I would prefer Werner too. But if Chelsea or pool come knocking, he will choose pool for sure. 

Also, this list is based on what the outlets are saying that lamps wants. Given how well he has performed what was given to him, he desrves to get what he wants. Simple as that.

I think it depends on what you're wanting from Zouma. I think most people are ok with him as CB3/4 in the long term but do not see him as a player with the potential to become world class. Further, he would rake in £40m+. 

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

I know Zouma is not the only reason for the goals

our fullbacks have overall been shit too, and Tomori and AC have made errors too (AC not so much)

I am super frustrated with our defence and (I dread saying this) Kepa atm

we need to go find a GREAT GK coach, and drill Kepa till he bleeds, he has regressed so much this year

 

 

Problem is, do you thinking the coaching staff do not know this? I think the conclusion has been made that he is awful at dealing with balls into the box and they are trying to mitigate it as much as possible. Personally, I have never seen a keeper stay on his line for set pieces as much as Kepa does and do not understand why he does it, as any shot/header from 8 yards in he is unlikely to save as it is so close to goal. The biggest problem however, is that teams have started to realise this which is why they are bombarding us from out wide - see Burnley, Ajax and Palace this weekend.

For me, Kepa was a panic buy because Granny ballsed up with TC. It was clear he was off from about 18 months prior to Summer 2018 and we did not do anything until he went on strike in mid Aug 2018. 

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

I have to be honest, IF we blow out and lose Chilwell, I can see the window going truly wonky

I do not trust Marina and the targeting scouts to bring it home

we have a shameful record as of late, if not foe the academy finally coming good, we would be in massive shit

I know I am pipe dreaming on Romagnoli or Konate or Skriniar, I doubt we get any

Sancho is also SO problematic as every monster team on the planet wants him

Same for Werner (especially at that price)

I am going to be pulling my hair out IF Rudiger really is fucked up to the point he will be on and off injured for the remainder of hsi stay, and all we can bring in is Ake

if not Sancho, the RW options are POOR

unless we REALLY roll the dice on the trouble child Ousame Dembele (and that assumes Barca sells him asa decent price, which is a huge IF)

I doubt the team is even looking at any of my 3 DMF targets (the £45m steal Partey or the wunderkind Camavinga or Florentino) I think they just might toss £80m or so for Declan Rice, which is a massive gamble in my book (hopefully pays off, but jesus has he looked for shit at times this year)

I cannot even be sure we will dump Alonso or Barkley or Willian (Pedro and Giroud are the only two out for sure)

IF we fail to dump the dregs (too long to list, but many are on loan) then we are smashed on those salaries too, and the transfers potential revenue losses start to get upward of 300M (NOT A JOKE) versus timely, smart sales over the past several years

I cannot take the same 4 fullbacks here next year, it is simply asking for disaster (if we fail on Chilwell I have zero clue who move for, I have seen some truly depressing liks posted, and I myself am being worn down by the board on Telles (plus his age as well)

and, also, the continuous injuries (Rudiger already discussed) to Kante (who turns 30 next season) and RLC (his achiles is FAR worse than CHO's and I really worry for his career atm)  are huge question marks 

I still have massive hope, but we really have to thread the needle on some of these players

I do NOT want to become Arsenal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno. Chilwell looks way overpriced from my prespective at £60-80m (likely to be the higher end) when players such as Telles and Gaya can probably be had for £30-45m.

Totally agree. Our boards dealings have left a lot to be desired and the young boys have kind of bailed them out as lets face it they even thought they would not get a ban this year. 

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11 minutes ago, King Kante said:

 

I dunno. Chilwell looks way overpriced from my prespective at £60-80m (likely to be the higher end) when players such as Telles and Gaya can probably be had for £30-45m.

Totally agree. Our boards dealings have left a lot to be desired and the young boys have kind of bailed them out as lets face it they even thought they would not get a ban this year. 

Gaya has a 100m euro release clause and Valencia will not budge, many rate him the best LB in the world (he is tird for me, after Alaba and Robertson)

Telles is 40m euros and he is my second choice, but much of the board doesn't rate him

 

my LB ratings are simple

Alaba

Robertson

Gaya

Alex Sandro (not worth buying now due to age)

Chilwell

Alex Telles

Junior Firpo

Ferland Mendy

Alejandro Grimaldo

Malang Sarr (converted from CB, if we fail on Chilwell or Telles, he is deffo worth looking at)

Jordi Alba (and soon off due to age, he is already showing age, as most fullbacks due once they hit 30, 31)

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Vesper said:

well if Rudiger is shipped then we need TWO WC CBS (as we need one now for sure)

and Ake  (sell AC too as Ake for Ac should be close to a wash money-wise)

Bring in Konate and Romagnoli

I can so live with a 5 CB set up of Konate, Romagnoli, Tomori, Ake and Zouma

Chilwell at LB

make a bid for the £25m release clause Werner

and try and and go for Sancho

max (if we get Sancho) for all that is 350m to 400m, and we will have SO MUCH more (as in at least 100m and more than like MORE left over) than that if we just sell off the dregs (and will have close to it even if we do not, as we have already sold a shit tonne)

 

 

 

I think you are missing the point of my post. Rather than it being my ideal window (which would simply be a LB, ST, RW (based on William's contract)), it was a post of how we would line up with the transfers that are rumored to happen. Financially it seems plausible. 

At the end of the day, lamps has deserved to get the players he wants. He has worked brilliantly with the kids, now he deserves to get the players that he thinks would take the team to the next level. 

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7 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

I think you are missing the point of my post. Rather than it being my ideal window (which would simply be a LB, ST, RW (based on William's contract)), it was a post of how we would line up with the transfers that are rumored to happen. Financially it seems plausible. 

At the end of the day, lamps has deserved to get the players he wants. He has worked brilliantly with the kids, now he deserves to get the players that he thinks would take the team to the next level. 

Do you think we can win PL or CL with Tomori - Zouma pairing?