Grant: Theres Life After Mourinhio

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

Tri-Blue, we could be twins, except I'm far more handsome! but you are my man!

Great minds and all that..... Are you a slaphead too

[changingman2000 35]

Great minds and all that..... Are you a slaphead too

Slap head?! harsh, I'm Mr Mods God mate!

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

Slap head?! harsh, I'm Mr Mods God mate!

Ah...My sister was a Mod, I was more into my Trance and House music.Back on topic...Grants a tool

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

He also reckons Mourinhos tactics would be shit for England. OK.http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/a...in_page_id=1779

[EskWeston 696]

He also reckons Mourinhos tactics would be shit for England. OK.http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/a...in_page_id=1779

Well his not really is he? Just because the article starts by saying that doesn't make it true........

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Cant I pretend the Daily Mails right ? Hes still a fraudulent git though.

[EskWeston 696]

Cant I pretend the Daily Mails right ? Hes still a fraudulent git though.

Of all the things to do, pretending the daily mail is right is the last thing to do Shame on you

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Lol, straw clutching I admit, and a lot of people believe their ''Single Mother Benefit Claimant Immigrants Swamping Our Golf Courses'' type stories.

[EskWeston 696]

Lol, straw clutching I admit, and a lot of people believe their ''Single Mother Benefit Claimant Immigrants Swamping Our Golf Courses'' type stories.

Lol ah, the good old british tabloids..... best in the world....

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He has sly digs at Jose in most of his interviews tbh. Not sure what he thinks he'll gain from it and whether he really thinks he's convincing anyone, doesnt work for me though.

I see your point, but it depends how you look at it. There are no quotes where he has actually said "Mourinho is a poor coach, I will win Chelsea more than he ever could," or something similar. So whilst he may be making slight digs at TSO, he may not.

[ironhorse 0]

HiThe way i see it , a lot of cfc will say let it go, & move on , support the team , yes i am for that in a way , but what happened to jose still affects us fans now , but what fans are doing is supporting the team & not grant , fact is i have not heard cfc sing for grant as we dont want it to affect the team , but i draw the line when he trys to slag of jose , the more i think about it ,no so long ago under jose we had a vision of being top of europe , jose managing , RAs money , its not a dream it could have happened , & cos its been shattered my RAs ego , he should have let jose build the team , as he knows about football , and what he knows about is business , it should be simple , but no he has to get rid of the best manager we have ever had , & replace him with one of the marx bros ,am i upset yes i fuc**** am , so if grant wants us to stop briging up jose , do not slag him off

[pluto 0]

He has sly digs at Jose in most of his interviews tbh. Not sure what he thinks he'll gain from it and whether he really thinks he's convincing anyone, doesnt work for me though.

The digs are there, they are repeated after just about every match and they are obviously directed at Mourinho. They don't convince me one bit, in fact I usually groan, then laugh and switch off - he deserves little else but my exasparation.Another classic recently is the idea that when he took over he rescued us from our poor league position and that "no one" gave us a chance of being in with a shout of the title. And now he has personally turned it around and we are back in the chase again.Well now for the facts, when Mourinho departed we were 5th and 2 points off Arsenal and level with MU and Liverpool.And now under Mr Grant? We are 3rd with MU just ahead and 6 points off Arsenal!It's the way he tells em I swear. I have just seen the link to the Daily Mail article - that's what I'm talking about, a lack of respect!When Grant has won a Champions League, UEFA Cup, two league titles in England (not Israel thank you), FA Cup, Carling Cup (and lets not forget the Charity Shield - Jose never did!) then he can tell us all that Mourinho's ideas are outdated. I really have no respect for this man and his continued digs at what the most SUCCESSFUL manager we have ever had at this club did for this team.Grant is playing with Mourinho's team and winning and taking the plaudits accordingly.Grant has surived to the grand old age of what 53? And yet during all that time has never managed to win anything of much merit and strangely Milan and Bara showed no interest when he kicked up on these shores at Portsmouth as Harry Rednapp's unused underling. Harry hadn't a clue what he did either and so he liked him because he had no control over first team affairs and he probably already knew he was Chelsea bound any way.When he left Portsmouth it's strange given how many big ideas Grant has about his more modern approach to football that a host of big European clubs were not knocking on his door begging him to take charge of their teams.Funny that.Grant will earn my respect when he shows respect for our previous manager when he does have to refer to him.His constant digs reek of one thing - INSECURITY IN HIS POSITION.His views are also bullsh*t when he tries to being up facts to prove this dumb ass theories.Stick to playing with Mourinho's team Avram - you are safer in the dugout doing little than opening your mouth off it and proving your views aren't worth taking even remotely seriously. Right now supporting the team is easy, the manager I'll take a pass thanks. Edited December 7, 2007 by pluto

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Good post. Before people accuse us of constantly barracking him -I will never warm to him -and will continue to despise his lies and sneaky way he came to manage a love of mine that has outlasted any woman. It grates that he's getting £2 800 000 a year of admission money for pretending he knows what hes doing.The Israeli billionaire Portsmouth owner Gaydemark brought him over from Israel as he was going nowhere in his own country. Once there he started his spying mission, hanging around, laying out the training bibs, and putting out cones for the players to dribble round. Redknapps first impression was one of disdain, saying he didn't know what he was doing or who he was. The players said he just stands around with his arms folded.This view of him later changed, obviously under Gaydemarks instructions, and once Redknapp knew Abramovich was bringing him to Stamford Bridge as ''Director of Football'' , Redknapp was saying ''He's a lovely bloke'' etc (inwardly smiling no doubt) .On the old forum I started a thread as soon as he came to the Bridge, that it was the death nell of Mourinho. And so it was, he watched, plotters plotted, and replacements were mooted for Mourinhos entourage. Basically in my opinion, Abramovich didnt want Mourinho to become Mr Chelsea, and as people and the press have surmised Abramovich wanted a more Roy of the Rovers free goalscoring team for his plaything.People can say ''it's water under the Bridge'' and 'what does it matter if we're winning ?''.Ok, this is because of what he's inherited, and his back up team of professionals.As far as progression, I would say we're standing still at the moment .Life after Mourinho ? I hope so, but this animatronic vegetable is one lifeform Chelsea could quite easily miss.

[misschief 24]

Two of the best posts in the thread imo (pluto & FB). Totally sums him up really: a wannabe manager, hanging round shuffling cones and kissing arse til his mate throws him a lifeline. In terms of making headlines, who even knew he existed before he was linked with Chelsea? A few (unconvincing) wins under his belt and suddenly he's Billy big bollocks, taking cheap shots at one of the best in an effort to big himself up.

INSECURITY IN HIS POSITION

Nail on the head.

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

Gotta agree with misschief, Pluto and FB both made excellent posts there.Brought a tear to my eye tbh....... As time goes by more and more people are beginning to see what we have seen from day 1. Before there was the usual..."Give the guy a break" ...routine, but now the "Grant is a muppet" Fan club is gathering pace.He's even came out stating Joses ideas would be crap for England now......... .Does he never know when to back off

[pluto 0]

Good post. Before people accuse us of constantly barracking him -I will never warm to him -and will continue to despise his lies and sneaky way he came to manage a love of mine that has outlasted any woman. It grates that he's getting £2 800 000 a year of admission money for pretending he knows what hes doing.The Israeli billionaire Portsmouth owner Gaydemark brought him over from Israel as he was going nowhere in his own country. Once there he started his spying mission, hanging around, laying out the training bibs, and putting out cones for the players to dribble round. Redknapps first impression was one of disdain, saying he didn't know what he was doing or who he was. The players said he just stands around with his arms folded.This view of him later changed, obviously under Gaydemarks instructions, and once Redknapp knew Abramovich was bringing him to Stamford Bridge as ''Director of Football'' , Redknapp was saying ''He's a lovely bloke'' etc (inwardly smiling no doubt) .On the old forum I started a thread as soon as he came to the Bridge, that it was the death nell of Mourinho. And so it was, he watched, plotters plotted, and replacements were mooted for Mourinhos entourage. Basically in my opinion, Abramovich didnt want Mourinho to become Mr Chelsea, and as people and the press have surmised Abramovich wanted a more Roy of the Rovers free goalscoring team for his plaything.People can say ''it's water under the Bridge'' and 'what does it matter if we're winning ?''.Ok, this is because of what he's inherited, and his back up team of professionals.As far as progression, I would say we're standing still at the moment .Life after Mourinho ? I hope so, but this animatronic vegetable is one lifeform Chelsea could quite easily miss.

Had to smile at your love of Chelsea - lucky club!Yes you were right, Grant's appointment as Director of Football (funny we don't need one now apparently) was the beginning of the end for Mourinho and despite his protestations this summer that it would make no difference you knew deep down it would. Another buffer between him and Roman, another useless finger in the pie mucking up his work.And the only reason dear old Harry changed his tune about Grant was because he knew he was moving on soon and his attempts to worm his way more into the first team affairs were firmly rebuffed and it was back to chatting to players about the weather and putting cones out.He even had the nerve to try and share some of the success Portsmouth are having at the moment by saying a few weeks back how wonderful it was their position in the table and you could see this was due to all the hard work "we" had done. What exactly did you do Avram? Aside from spend time on your mobile phone chatting to Roman, putting cones out and trying out your new age psychobabble on bemused players who thought you a nice enough bloke but didn't have a clue what your were meant to be doing there?His latest dig that Mourinho's counter attacking style of football is now outdated as he Grant has done huge amounts of analysis on the subject (not by playing the game but by reading books and watching others of course) simply confirms what I have long suspected that he does an awful lot of chatting about how good he is without having done anything fundamentally astounding to prove it - and no I don't count wins against some of the competition we've had as proof positive we have landed ourselves the Israeli version of Wenger. Mourinho had a big mouth too and thought himself a great coach but he could afford to mouth off as he had actually done something consistently over time to prove that calling himself the big "I am" was acceptable. Grant has won little and done nothing to justify his jibes at Mourinho and the strange idea our style of play has done a 360 degree turn from September. We have thrashed a few championship league teams and City when they were in a coma one afternoon defensively. If we thrash Sunderland tomorrow you just know it will be aided by the poor quality of the opposition rather than our overt attacking brilliance.He has inherited Mourinho's superb team, drilled superbly to defend and attack when the opportunity presents itself, totally professional and eager to win for further glory - I doubt they do it to earn Grant's plaudits.That's not stellar talent in a coach weaving some kind of magic wand and making what is currently happen happen - it is just common sense. Edited December 8, 2007 by pluto

[ironhorse 0]

Had to smile at your love of Chelsea - lucky club!Yes you were right, Grant's appointment as Director of Football (funny we don't need one now apparently) was the beginning of the end for Mourinho and despite his protestations this summer that it would make no difference you knew deep down it would. Another buffer between him and Roman, another useless finger in the pie mucking up his work.And the only reason dear old Harry changed his tune about Grant was because he knew he was moving on soon and his attempts to worm his way more into the first team affairs were firmly rebuffed and it was back to chatting to players about the weather and putting cones out.He even had the nerve to try and share some of the success Portsmouth are having at the moment by saying a few weeks back how wonderful it was their position in the table and you could see this was due to all the hard work "we" had done. What exactly did you do Avram? Aside from spend time on your mobile phone chatting to Roman, putting cones out and trying out your new age psychobabble on bemused players who thought you a nice enough bloke but didn't have a clue what your were meant to be doing there?His latest dig that Mourinho's counter attacking style of football is now outdated as he Grant has done huge amounts of analysis on the subject (not by playing the game but by reading books and watching others of course) simply confirms what I have long suspected that he does an awful lot of chatting about how good he is without having done anything fundamentally astounding to prove it - and no I don't count wins against some of the competition we've had as proof positive we have landed ourselves the Israeli version of Wenger. Mourinho had a big mouth too and thought himself a great coach but he could afford to mouth off as he had actually done something consistently over time to prove that calling himself the big "I am" was acceptable. Grant has won little and done nothing to justify his jibes at Mourinho and the strange idea our style of play has done a 360 degree turn from September. We have thrashed a few championship league teams and City when they were in a coma one afternoon defensively. If we thrash Sunderland tomorrow you just know it will be aided by the poor quality of the opposition rather than our overt attacking brilliance.He has inherited Mourinho's superb team, drilled superbly to defend and attack when the opportunity presents itself, totally professional and eager to win for further glory - I doubt they do it to earn Grant's plaudits.That's not stellar talent in a coach weaving some kind of magic wand and making what is currently happen happen - it is just common sense.

Hithere are some who can see whats happened & whats going on now , and we are not scared to say so , most cant stand grant , by are slient as RA might be upset & move on & we would be in the shit ,? buy would we , yes hes done good things for cfc but wanting to pick players ( shevchenko ) , bad move , jose warned him & was right , the 1st wrong move , he gets rid of the best manager , ever , 2nd bad move , installs a the gimp who helped him , 3rd bad move is he the really doing the best for Chelsea , team & fans , or is about cfc is my toy & you will do all what i say , is that right peter "yes boss" , commitee "yes boss" , jose " fuck off what do you know about football " the best for ronman and grant , but not Chelsea .team or fan

[changingman2000 35]

Well, I think Mr Boroadway has summed it all up by thatI second that emotion!

[ironhorse 0]

Hiare the wheels comming off his stage coach , as thats the only coach he could manage , take yesterday 1 top player down against sundreland yes sunderland , who are whipped everywhere , we are at home , so on paper it looks like there lambs to the slaughter , 2-0 , yes i am a bit happy but we could not break them down , i am thinking more arsenal (soon) liverpool (soon) and blackburn ( soon) and we could not break sunderland down , my bells are ringing & not for xmas cheer , so what spin does grant put on things , "we played well " shall i go on and bring up how jose had 5 1st team down with injury , wembley , final f,a cup , man utd , they won our league days earlier , & roman on his back , pressure , real pressure and we won , so to me hes a god , but as i am a beliver in what he says "we played well" bring on liverpool & arsenal and we are playing well ...............

[pluto 0]

Well with Arsenal losing today, Grant bizarrely has the chance to take us level with Arsenal if we can beat them.This still doesn't make me in awe of what he has done so far for reasons I've already gone into. I don't even want to think what rubbish Grant will be spouting about how wonderful the new look Chelsea is and how amazingly we have recovered from our "bad" start to the campaign under Jose if we do win. Jose never lost to the apparent genius that is Mr Wenger and depending upon injuries to both sides, if Grant doesn't muck things up with any strange new attacking team tactics we could continue that record.