Grant: Theres Life After Mourinhio

[ironhorse 0]

I don't know if anyone else thinks the same, but I think Grant is really poor to react to matches with substitutes. He seems very keen to keep the players he selects in the starting XI on the field for as long as possible, and brings on substitutes too late on in the game if you ask me. I would have brought on SWP at half-time, but I guess he's a slightly more experienced manager than I

Hii am with you there , thats the problem as i see it , we are a good team and any manager would get good results , but when it is time to change things and tinker about , read the game !!!! hes to slow , thats where need a jose and not a grant , against most teams we will do ok , even to day against w,ham the goal was late comming and that game was heading for 0-0 , he put wright-phillips to late . but today we were lucky , but what about top teams ??? we have liverpool comming up so he will have to earn his keep , and even though i am a jose man , i hope he takes his chance , if not it means losing at home to the f****** scousers and the home record .even though i got my feelings , come on grant

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Hii am with you there , thats the problem as i see it , we are a good team and any manager would get good results , but when it is time to change things and tinker about , read the game !!!! hes to slow , thats where need a jose and not a grant , against most teams we will do ok , even to day against w,ham the goal was late comming and that game was heading for 0-0 , he put wright-phillips to late . but today we were lucky , but what about top teams ??? we have liverpool comming up so he will have to earn his keep , and even though i am a jose man , i hope he takes his chance , if not it means losing at home to the f****** scousers and the home record .even though i got my feelings , come on grant

To be fair, a lot of people are looking at the 1-0 and saying we "only just" scraped it. Far from the truth. West Ham came to the Bridge witha gameplan, to get in some early, heavy challenges to rattle our midfield and disrupt the flow of our football which is always through Lampard. With him being manmarked and therefore having little time on the ball, we were struglging to get to grips with their style of play. Their defence was solid and they ever had two players on Drogba, so when he tried to flick the ball on 9 times in 10 there would be a covering defender there to intercept the winner. It worked brilliantly until we changed our game plan and went long ball, and then it took a simple movement of Cudicini to Drogba, Drogba to Kalou, Kalou to Joe Cole, Joe Cole to 1-0. West Ham couldn't react to the sudden change of play, and as they had been attacking moments beforehand, they were undermanned at the back.What I am trying to get across is that this was one of those tough games. First of all, it was a cagey London derby, you might as well expect this sort of performance when teams come to Stamford Bridge where they know they will be opened up eventually. We broke them down, kept them under sustained pressure, and it eventually paid off. So this 1-0 result for me, is a great scoreline and shows that whilst we now also have the ability to go on and win games with relative ease, we can also maintain our old skill of being able to take the game by the scruff of the neck, dig in deep, and grind out the necessary performance to get the three points.

Did Jose ever have to make digs at previous managers in an effort to big himself up or did he just win support by doing a very convincing job (which he'd got on his own merit btw)?

To be fair, no, but he slagged off Benitez for his and our enjoyment anyway. Edited December 2, 2007 by BlueLion

[Steve 10,227]

i agree he doesnt no when to sub and who for he seems to make sill subs just to try and make something work but it looks like he doesnt no what hes doing..

To be fair, no, but he slagged off Benitez for his and our enjoyment anyway.

yes lol but it wasnt to get him self a bigger name it was just the truth cos hes a fat dick

[pluto 0]

All respect to the Special One, but with the players we have, it wasn't at all likely we would struggle without him.

I never thought we would struggle but why are people giving Grant additional credit over and above what he deserves?The team are the same quality as they were before Jose left, instilled with his winning spirit and drive.Grant takes over.He gets players back from injury that Jose sorely missed.We start winning again as players pick up form and fitness and Grant is some magician?No he's taken over a quality team and has been smart enough not to mess with it too much and upset the players and as professionals they want to keep winning things.Nothing has changed in my view and Grant has done little to change much aside from thrashing the odd hapless team here and there more so than apparently we would have done under Mourinho.

[pluto 0]

Hii am with you there , thats the problem as i see it , we are a good team and any manager would get good results , but when it is time to change things and tinker about , read the game !!!! hes to slow , thats where need a jose and not a grant , against most teams we will do ok , even to day against w,ham the goal was late comming and that game was heading for 0-0 , he put wright-phillips to late . but today we were lucky , but what about top teams ??? we have liverpool comming up so he will have to earn his keep , and even though i am a jose man , i hope he takes his chance , if not it means losing at home to the f****** scousers and the home record .even though i got my feelings , come on grant

According to some in the know, Grant is very loyal to the players out on the pitch, he will keep them on and not make a sub even when they are doing badly and the fans are screaming for a player to come off. He would rather wait and see if they can get better than make some snap change.No idea if that is true or not but when Belletti had that nightmare game against Schalke and stayed on the pitch I thought under Mourinho he would have been off but Grant left him on.He doesn't strike me as a person who makes quick snap judgements he would rather wait and see what happens.

[misschief 24]

He doesn't make snap judgements because he doesn't read games well enough imo. And the more digs he has at Mourinho, the more he'll alienate supporters and the further he'll set himself up to fall.

[ironhorse 0]

According to some in the know, Grant is very loyal to the players out on the pitch, he will keep them on and not make a sub even when they are doing badly and the fans are screaming for a player to come off. He would rather wait and see if they can get better than make some snap change.No idea if that is true or not but when Belletti had that nightmare game against Schalke and stayed on the pitch I thought under Mourinho he would have been off but Grant left him on.He doesn't strike me as a person who makes quick snap judgements he would rather wait and see what happens.

Hiwell i think thats his main problem , he waits to long , on sat against w,ham to crowd were getting nervous and started to sing for w.phillips only then he put him on , that tells me 20.000 see we need a change , but grant didnt. ????? did he plan to do it , or was scared of crowd feelings , so he did it .and the member who said 1-0 this is good result , yes at times ? but this was not 1 of them , first half we had 1 shot after 5 mins , 40 mins of nothing , 2nd half was better but no real chances , with 10 mins left , i was worried , my mate was worried , & 20.000 were worried , so we sang for phillips , we were crying out for change before its to late , a great goal , but we were lucky this time , it thats the "new way" give me the old way thanks , for us to have a good season its in our hands , we all know we got the team , but have we the leadership , cos its gonna get crunch time soon , i am not sure !!! but i will be there win or lose cfc in my heart

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

He doesn't make snap judgements because he doesn't read games well enough imo. And the more digs he has at Mourinho, the more he'll alienate supporters and the further he'll set himself up to fall.

Agreed....Joses decisions were based on having the game already played out in his head.....If this happens I will do this, If we score first we will do this, If its zero zero ...at half time I will do this.Grants decisions are..... If this happens what will I do?, If they score first what will I do?, If its zero zero at half time what will I do?I know its taking the piss, but thats how I see it. In management terms Jose was in a different class, Grant strikes me as hes in the class with his big thick crayola crayons

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Agreed....Joses decisions were based on having the game already played out in his head.....If this happens I will do this, If we score first we will do this, If its zero zero ...at half time I will do this.Grants decisions are..... If this happens what will I do?, If they score first what will I do?, If its zero zero at half time what will I do?I know its taking the piss, but thats how I see it. In management terms Jose was in a different class, Grant strikes me as hes in the class with his big thick crayola crayons

Probably sums him up. Biographers of Mourinho and other managers have said there is no one in the game who analyses the opposition to the meticulous level that he does, and as you say, always has a contingency for the way the game progresses. This is one facet that they cannot replicate with a Pound Shop manager.

[misschief 24]

Probably sums him up. Biographers of Mourinho and other managers have said there is no one in the game who analyses the opposition to the meticulous level that he does, and as you say, always has a contingency for the way the game progresses. This is one facet that they cannot replicate with a Pound Shop manager.

Is it just the difference between being proactive and reactive or worse than that, the difference between being a master tactician and a clueless twat?Answers on a postcard please.

[ironhorse 0]

Agreed....Joses decisions were based on having the game already played out in his head.....If this happens I will do this, If we score first we will do this, If its zero zero ...at half time I will do this.Grants decisions are..... If this happens what will I do?, If they score first what will I do?, If its zero zero at half time what will I do?I know its taking the piss, but thats how I see it. In management terms Jose was in a different class, Grant strikes me as hes in the class with his big thick crayola crayons

Hi i see the same , cfc are a top 10 club who can lift the european cup , the games start the next round , and in the carling cup as we must beat livershit , these games will be close and won by odd goal , & a bit of special management . in the summer i thought this our year , we have the team & squad , we the onwer , we have the best manager , now i live in hope and not a sure thing , can grant replace jose , has he got the support of the team , are 3 or 4 waiting to jump ship all these ifs mean no sucess .i am still going , i love cfc ,but the jose thing has not gone yet , i wish he was more general grant come on you blues

[changingman2000 35]

He'll go down as the biggest joke since MacMillan "saying peace in our time". What sadly surprising is the majority of Chelsea fans who are willing to go with the flow, even though it was all set up to bushwack Jose. In one stroke, we became what every other fan accused us off being, a plaything, and the majority of weak minded liberal Chelsea just followed like lambs to the slaughter.Pathetic

[misschief 24]

He'll go down as the biggest joke since MacMillan "saying peace in our time". What sadly surprising is the majority of Chelsea fans who are willing to go with the flow, even though it was all set up to bushwack Jose. In one stroke, we became what every other fan accused us off being, a plaything, and the majority of weak minded liberal Chelsea just followed like lambs to the slaughter.Pathetic

Spot on.Thing is, atm they're appeased because although most of our results arent exactly something to crow about, we're not losing. But firstly, we were sold the line that Roman's problem with Jose was the football wasn't attractive enough and that this would change under Grant (even if most of us knew it wouldnt) and secondly, we havent played anyone of any note yet. What they're conveniently failing to acknowledge is that we're not playing any different, the results aren't any better, we're still off the pace and Grant's still an incompetent twat. Does anyone honestly believe he won't get well and truly found out in the next month or two? Congested fixtures, tougher opposition, injuries, ACON.........

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

He'll go down as the biggest joke since MacMillan "saying peace in our time". What sadly surprising is the majority of Chelsea fans who are willing to go with the flow, even though it was all set up to bushwack Jose. In one stroke, we became what every other fan accused us off being, a plaything, and the majority of weak minded liberal Chelsea just followed like lambs to the slaughter.Pathetic

He'll be a bigger joke than that. Because it was Neville Chamberlain. If you're going to quote English history CM get it right, it's like me saying that great Scotsman Mel Gibson saying ''Freedom!!''. In a way Its difficult to blame the younger fans, a lot have only supported since Mourinho -and have great trust and faith in the club. Us wiser *cough*, and older fans can see the club's been hijacked. Roman might have the right intentions, but he should leave some things alone. I reckon Israel asked for some payback or Jewish loyalty bonus -it's the only explanation for having the charmless charlatan.As Mischief said it's not if, but when he gets found out. Just a matter of time.

[changingman2000 35]

Spot on.Thing is, atm they're appeased because although most of our results arent exactly something to crow about, we're not losing. But firstly, we were sold the line that Roman's problem with Jose was the football wasn't attractive enough and that this would change under Grant (even if most of us knew it wouldnt) and secondly, we havent played anyone of any note yet. What they're conveniently failing to acknowledge is that we're not playing any different, the results aren't any better, we're still off the pace and Grant's still an incompetent twat. Does anyone honestly believe he won't get well and truly found out in the next month or two? Congested fixtures, tougher opposition, injuries, ACON.........

The Arse on the 16th will be interesting. He'd better hope and pray that all eleven players are 100% on their game or methinks we'll be well fucked.