Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I'm as worried about him Havertz and Ziyech as the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Some responsibility lies with the manager. Even though Werner was supposed to play striker today against city, he played very much like he always plays: as a winger but more central. did not make enough runs to catch crosses and passes. Players don’t do what they are told, but what they are used to doing in practice and games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He was terrible, no runs in behind, never attacked the central spaces, was constantly staying wide and providing us with no presence in the center. And on top of all this he refused to shoot every time he had a chance. It's getting annoying now. Lampard doesn't know what to do with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He's lost, played out wide, through the middle, played too much...what's it to be.... Good player there somewhere but this manager can't do it with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Lampard doesn't know what to do with him Lampard doesn't know what to do with the team. Period. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Lampard may just have chosen the wrong player for Chelsea and this might cost him the jobGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: He was terrible, no runs in behind, never attacked the central spaces, was constantly staying wide and providing us with no presence in the center. And on top of all this he refused to shoot every time he had a chance. It's getting annoying now. Lampard doesn't know what to do with him He doesn't make runs in behind because there is literally nobody in the team playing the passes. I have seen him run in behind loads of times in other games for the midfielder.. mainly Mount.. to turn around and play it back. He has zero confidence in the providers so then runs out wide or deep to fetch the ball and he isn't good enough to make something happen from there... it isn't his game. He needs to be running onto through balls or attack low crosses.... which we do nether of lol. If Werner was playing for Liverpool or City he would be scoring regularly and that's the simple truth.  11Drogba, kellzfresh, manpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He doesn't make runs in behind because there is literally nobody in the team playing the passes. I have seen him run in behind loads of times in other games for the midfielder.. mainly Mount.. to turn around and play it back. He has zero confidence in the providers so then runs out wide or deep to fetch the ball and he isn't good enough to make something happen from there... it isn't his game. He needs to be running onto through balls or attack low crosses.... which we do nether of lol. If Werner was playing for Liverpool or City he would be scoring regularly and that's the simple truth.  I highly doubt that Werner has the technical abilities to play for Man CityGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, killer1257 said: I highly doubt that Werner has the technical abilities to play for Man City Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk  He was reportedly wanted by Guardiola in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He was reportedly wanted by Guardiola in the summer.Pep had other flops tooGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, killer1257 said: Pep had other flops too Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk lol Okay, hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 lol Okay, hater.If you think Werner is able to play one touch football at Man City, that is your opinion. I don't think he can. #justsayinGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, killer1257 said: If you think Werner is able to play one touch football at Man City, that is your opinion. I don't think he can. #justsayin Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Whatever hater. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, killer1257 said: If you think Werner is able to play one touch football at Man City, that is your opinion. I don't think he can. #justsayin Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk  Liepzeg played one touch football with Werner. Lampard only plays crosses so Werner cant show that he can play that style here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Liepzeg played one touch football with Werner. Lampard only plays crosses so Werner cant show that he can play that style hereI don't think you know how bad Werner's technique is to play one touch football. He is like Diego Costa. You need to feed him with fabrepasses, so he can score goals. But Costa had the advantage that he was much more physical and was good in the air. So, he had other things apart from pace and good runs that made him good. Diego Costa would also not been able to play Pep football, but I am just a hater apparently. I loved Diego btw.  At least, I was one of the few guys that realized before Werner came to us that he had many weaknesses. TC did not see it.      Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, killer1257 said: I don't think you know how bad Werner's technique is to play one touch football. He is like Diego Costa. You need to feed him with fabrepasses, so he can score goals. But Costa had the advantage that he was much more physical and was good in the air. So, he had other things apart from pace and good runs that made him good. Diego Costa would also not been able to play Pep football, but I am just a hater apparently. I loved Diego btw.  At least, I was one of the few guys that realized before Werner came to us that he had many weaknesses. TC did not see it.      Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk    Yes I know Werner has so many weaknesses. I'm one of the most blunt Chelsea fans you can meet as I say things the way I see it. Werner's first problem is his terrible first touch (Lukaku levels) which even affects his first time shooting. He has major problems but the system of play we employ is a disaster for Werner. I saw a stat that Bruno Fernandes has played more through passes this season than the whole Chelsea team combined. How does a player who lives on the shoulder of the last defender survive without balls through the middle? killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Yes I know Werner has so many weaknesses. I'm one of the most blunt Chelsea fans you can meet as I say things the way I see it. Werner's first problem is his terrible first touch (Lukaku levels) which even affects his first time shooting. Saw this from Lukaku... Lampard always talked about working hard in training but I wonder if he's actually working smart with the players in training. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, killer1257 said: Lampard may just have chosen the wrong player for Chelsea and this might cost him the job Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk I don't know if it's the lack of pre-season or there's big pressure on him this season but although he changed too much last season, at least he was flexible with the formation. This season, he just seems stuck with 4-3-3, even when it's not working. Werner did his best work as a second striker at Leipzig and yet, Lampard has not tried once this season to play 2 strikers upfront - be it 4-4-2, 4-diamond-2 or 3-5-2. Even 3-4-3 might work, allowing Werner to play closer to the central striker and just focus on chances inside the box, instead of suddenly having to play a dual role with the defensive and offensive work as a winger. If Lampard really doesn't know how to use Werner, then one needs to question why did Lampard even buy him. Really, REALLY curious as to what Lampard said to Werner (and even the others) when he convinced him to join us. kellzfresh and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Saw this from Lukaku... Lampard always talked about working hard in training but I wonder if he's actually working smart with the players in training. I have watched Lukaku only one time this season and that was when Lukaku had his disasterclass in Inter's last CL match, so I give him the benefit of the doubt that he has maybe improved this season. But last season, I remember clearly that his first touch at Inter was still horrible. He may have improved a little bit and I would say that his left foot is not as bad as it used to be, but still not good. His right foot was still very bad. Also his passing was still very horrific in a very easy league. Maybe I have watched the wrong games, just like I apparently watched the wrong games last season of Chilwell, but I think it was not good. Lukaku scored many goals, but against the CL teams last season, he struggled and I think he did not score against the bigger sides of Serie A that much.  Also, Conte was at Chelsea. He did not make Willian turn into a world class player, he also did not turn Oscar into a world class player. Instead, he sold one and tried selling the other one too, but failed trying and got the sack instead [emoji23] Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jason said: Saw this from Lukaku... Lampard always talked about working hard in training but I wonder if he's actually working smart with the players in training. This is a manager that wants a player, knows his weaknesses and has a plan on how to improve them to the benefit of his team. Ours just looks like we liked some YouTube videos and paid 50mil lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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