Nicolo Barella

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2 minutes ago, Dazzy_Vance said:

What page or are they scattered throughout the whole thread?

 

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

 

Cheers.

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38 minutes ago, Dazzy_Vance said:

Cheers.

Varsågod!

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32 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Varsågod!

Just been thinking. It might actually appeal to him coming here Playing with his national team mate Jorgi (we would only need Veratti then lol), knows Magic Box well, understands Sarri and his ways etc. Would help him to settle in and feel comfortable.

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This seems to have gone pretty quiet. Very strange that Cesc hasn't been announced either when everyone and their mother knows he's signed his contract with Monaco.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

https://www.alfredopedulla.com/esclusiva-chelsea-nuovi-contatti-paredes-barella/

Translation from Italian -> Pedulla-English. 

"Exclusive: Chelsea, new contacts for Paredes. And on Barella ...

A midfielder and also a striker, from here you can not escape. Chelsea should do it quickly enough, simply because it has a busy schedule and people need more rotation. Update on Barella: evidently it is not done, as they wrote in England, but the strong interest that has to be realized has remained. Chelsea has thought of a £ 45 million bid, but the budget also includes the need to take a striker (Higuain the first name, polls for Cavani, Bournemouth Wilson a suggestion) and so you have to be patient. Even more so if we think that Chelsea has already spent 64 million to hire Pulisic from next July. Marina Granovskaia has given herself a pause for reflection, but soon we will enter the living. In the meantime contacts with Zenit have continued for Leandro Paredes, the other name on the list, and is confirmed by the fact that the excellent relations with the Russian club can make the difference. At that point they would scramble the cards for Barella, hunted by Napoli (ready to offer 4 million per season), with Inter apparently on standby for an operation to be closed now for July. And in the meantime Giulini is working with Burdisso to perfect the agreement on Nandez with Boca. The cards, however, can be remixed every day, taking into account that the interest Psg for Allan has not so far led to the famous bid announced. So, everything can still happen, for sure we will not be bored."

"...but soon we enter the living".  

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So in other words nothing this week. 

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3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

So in other words nothing this week. 

Doesn't look like it.  They had better not embarrass Cesc by trotting him out again.  

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I am not liking the sound of this.

Chelsea advance talks to sign Leandro Paredes ahead of Nicolo Barella

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/10/chelsea-advance-talks-sign-leandro-paredes-ahead-nicolo-barella-8328887/

Chelsea have advanced discussions with Zenit over a deal for Leandro Paredes, according to reports in Italy. Maurizio Sarri has urged the club to sign a new central midfielder this month with Cesc Fabregas set to join Monaco. Cagliari’s Nicolo Barella is on Chelsea’s shortlist and the 21-year-old has been contacted by Gianfranco Zola about a potential move to Stamford Bridge. But Sportitalia report that Chelsea’s hierarchy are unwilling to spend €45 million (£40.6m) on Barella as they also need a significant part of their budget to sign a new striker during the January transfer window.

It’s claimed that Chelsea are now progressing talks with Zenit over a move for Paredes and the strong relationship between the two clubs could play a key factor in discussions.

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Grrrrrrrr, we are talking about a £9m difference (IF Zenit sells for only £31.5m, which seems low as it is January and other clubs want him too).

£40m in January for Barella is great business. Unbelievably inept board.

We drop £70m on Morata, overpay by at least £35m for Drinkwater (when salary is included) will sell multiple other players at massive loses, will lose others on a free  when we could have had £45m or so for them (Luiz, Cahill), bollocksed up £65m for Willian,  renewed Alonso at insane money, and YET penny-fucking-pinch over £5 or £9m on one of the best young MFers in the world IN JANUARY! 

I am not slating Paredes at all, I rate him, but he is a different style player than Barella. He is much closer to Jorginho style, whereas Barella is like a young Nainggolan, with perhaps better passing, yet not quite same shooting (although he is far from bad there, and is improving year by year).

Barella has an insane motor, like near Gatusso level. I cannot say the same for Paredes. Sandro Tonali would be better buy over Paredes, plus buy Barella and let Kovacic go back.

Furthermore, we may end up dropping a ridiculous £50m or so on either Wilson, Arnautovic, or a truly lunatic perma-buy of the gamla köttbulle (old meatball) Higuain.

We have an insane amount of deadwood, loan army droids, ageing players , etc to sell to finance. Plus the 40 million or so IF we are forced to sell CHO.

So so not happy atm.

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Grrrrrrrr, we are talking about a £9m difference (IF Zenit sells for only £31.5m, which seems low as it is January and other clubs want him too).

£40m in January for Barella is great business. Unbelievably inept board.

You forget mate - we are talking about Mz Penny Pincher. She walks away from deals for £5mill.

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1 hour ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

https://www.alfredopedulla.com/esclusiva-chelsea-nuovi-contatti-paredes-barella/

Translation from Italian -> Pedulla-English. 

"Exclusive: Chelsea, new contacts for Paredes. And on Barella ...

A midfielder and also a striker, from here you can not escape. Chelsea should do it quickly enough, simply because it has a busy schedule and people need more rotation. Update on Barella: evidently it is not done, as they wrote in England, but the strong interest that has to be realized has remained. Chelsea has thought of a £ 45 million bid, but the budget also includes the need to take a striker (Higuain the first name, polls for Cavani, Bournemouth Wilson a suggestion) and so you have to be patient. Even more so if we think that Chelsea has already spent 64 million to hire Pulisic from next July. Marina Granovskaia has given herself a pause for reflection, but soon we will enter the living. In the meantime contacts with Zenit have continued for Leandro Paredes, the other name on the list, and is confirmed by the fact that the excellent relations with the Russian club can make the difference. At that point they would scramble the cards for Barella, hunted by Napoli (ready to offer 4 million per season), with Inter apparently on standby for an operation to be closed now for July. And in the meantime Giulini is working with Burdisso to perfect the agreement on Nandez with Boca. The cards, however, can be remixed every day, taking into account that the interest Psg for Allan has not so far led to the famous bid announced. So, everything can still happen, for sure we will not be bored."

"...but soon we enter the living".  

Marina Granovskaia has given herself a pause for reflection, but soon we will enter the living.

 

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1 minute ago, Unionjack said:

You forget mate - we are talking about Mz Penny Pincher. She walks away from deals for £5mill.

But sells for total losses (counting actual market value at the time and turned down offers lost, not just actual paid price v sold price accounting) of well over £150m soon.

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11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

But sells for total losses (counting actual market value at the time and turned down offers lost, not just actual paid price v sold price accounting) of well over £150m soon.

This is actually not true Marina usually knows how to sell.she might be incompetent at buying but selling is definitely her strong suit. This is the reason we are constantly in profit because of player trading activities 

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2 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

This is actually not true Marina usually knows how to sell.she might be incompetent at buying but selling is definitely her strong suit. This is the reason we are constantly in profit because of player trading activities 

So you call turning down £65mill for Willian a good deal?

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Just now, Unionjack said:

So you call turning down £65mill for Willian a good deal?

There have been rumours of it being 30 million bid, but come on you really think we would turn down that much for Willian at age 29? Barca bid but wanted to low ball us from what I heard. She managed to get 35 million plus for Courtios with 1 year left on his contract and who was forcing a move. She's incompetent with everything else but I disagree about selling. Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

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1 minute ago, Vybz Kartel said:

This is actually not true Marina usually knows how to sell.she might be incompetent at buying but selling is definitely her strong suit. This is the reason we are constantly in profit because of player trading activities 

Get back to me when the final figures are in on Big Nose, Luiz, Costa, Cesc, Cahill, Eden, Willian, Emerson, Alonso, Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Moses, Bakayoko, Bats, etc etc. Not some plazzy 'oh we paid low sold high' bollocks' but real deal fails on sales that will cost us crazy money as well as deadweight and shit players dragging us down with no replacements in sight (or very few actual positive ones).

We turned down £620m in real, hard offers last summer, NOT even counting anything about Kante.

My £150m loss v those figures is massively conservative against what we will end up getting for those exact same players.

She is going to be (or has been already) bled out like a piggy at Oktoberfest prep. Poor contractual management,  poor buys, often panic-panic in nature, and then makeweight sales is a pear-shaped business model that is going to soon steamroller us.

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9 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

There have been rumours of it being 30 million bid, but come on you really think we would turn down that much for Willian at age 29? Barca bid but wanted to low ball us from what I heard. She managed to get 35 million plus for Courtios with 1 year left on his contract and who was forcing a move. She's incompetent with everything else but I disagree about selling. Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

Can we put this gaslighting about the Willian Barca bids somehow not being real to bed. I and others have tirelessly documented in dozens upon dozens of posts as it happened and now in retrospective that the bids were REAL and turned down.

So sick of this revisionist and false history being pushed. And NO, I am not going to give links, as I have done this so many times already. Its on you and all other Show Me Simons to prove this false narrative.

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22 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

There have been rumours of it being 30 million bid, but come on you really think we would turn down that much for Willian at age 29? Barca bid but wanted to low ball us from what I heard. She managed to get 35 million plus for Courtios with 1 year left on his contract and who was forcing a move. She's incompetent with everything else but I disagree about selling. Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

Sadly I do think Mz Penny Pincher would yes.

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8 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Sadly I do think Mz Penny Pincher would yes.

The Courtois deal is a perfect example of the board being inept. We could have gotten double the money if they had sold him in 2017 (as any remotely intelligent person could see he was not going to renew and had eyes on Real and they had heart set on him after the De Gea debacle). Great replacements were there, and at far cheaper prices than the clusterfuck 2018 window.

They have very poor strategically focused vision when it comes down to mid to long term event horizons.

Rinse wash repeat with Eden probably. It's pure normalcy bias. Reactive rather than proactive is a shit way to live life and do business.

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This is disappointing to read.  Really think he would be a good buy for us.  If Marina is really worried about money how can we possibly be looking at spending 45 mil on a rb when we have a couple up and comers at that position.  I'm sure a new rb could help but it would be much further down my list of priorities after fixing things up so we get some production out of midfield and someone to take the chances they create.