David Neres

[Vesper 30,081]

1 hour ago, Arlen Correa said:

 

He is not similar to William. I think many people dont know the player and are just making things up. I suspect many here only watched the player the last games when he was through injury. David Neres was Ajax top scorer last season when he played the entire season in his position. Last window his agent tried to sell him, the deal failed in the last day and he was benched by the new coach part of the season or played in other positions.

 

 He played 70 games for Ajax so far, many times coming from the bench with 25 goals and 22 assists. He is not a wide striker but playing in his position he tends to have a good end product.

He is involved in goal/assist in almost every big game there. Its exactly the contrary of what you said. The criticism on him is that he play well against PSV or Madrid then will be lazy against weak opposition in the league.

 

Don't get me wrong i would not sign him. I suspect that Ajax system was making all those players look good. 

[Arlen Correa 161]

46 minutes ago, Vesper said:

What you see in those stats, Vesper?

[Vesper 30,081]

26 minutes ago, Arlen Correa said:

What you see in those stats, Vesper?

A lot of assists coming from being on a high scoring team, fairly good goal scoring ability, but mostly in a shit league, and a regression from 2017-18 there, even if the minutes are adjusted upward (and he was on a far better team this past season) His production falls when he is playing better competition.

I think he has talent, but he is a gamble

Nicolas Pepe, another inverted left-footed RWer (Neres does play both sides) is miles beyond and has been my number one realistic winger target since autumn.

[Arlen Correa 161]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

A lot of assists coming from being on a high scoring team, fairly good goal scoring ability, but mostly in a shit league, and a regression from 2017-18 there, even if the minutes are adjusted upward (and he was on a far better team this past season) His production falls when he is playing better competition.

I think he has talent, but he is a gamble

Nicolas Pepe, another inverted left-footed RWer (Neres does play both sides) is miles beyond and has been my number one realistic winger target since autumn.

I disagree. 2017/18 he was coming from Ajax B. He played only 87 minutes in european competitions. He is playing in a weak league but you only can score against the opposition you have in front of you. Also majority of best players come from weak leagues. In these two seasons he got goals/ assists against all the big adversaries there. In 2018/19 he scored against Madrid and Juventus. Those were his big games this season. In two legs against Madrid he scored in 1. In two legs against Juventus he scored in 1. Its not bad. Reports here are that he played through injury firsr leg against Tottenham and he was out second leg. If you pick only the big games he had in his career his performances were very good.  I probably watched majority.

 

Also i dont think he is some kind of super talent that we should talk too much about him. I just like the player because he is generous with the public trying to do some beautiful moves. I watched him since the U-20. I'm a fan of those little players.

[milka 3,390]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

That's a fake account 

[Arlen Correa 161]

Changed my opinion watching him in the nt.. Dont want him anymore. Everton is playing in the local league and is 200% better than him. I bet there are other players in smaller european leagues cheaper and with same level as Neres.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1 hour ago, Arlen Correa said:

Changed my opinion watching him in the nt.. Dont want him anymore. Everton is playing in the local league and is 200% better than him. I bet there are other players in smaller european leagues cheaper and with same level as Neres.

I dont want to say that he is great or not, but I would never rate the players from their national team performances. There were so many players that exploded at world cups, euros, copas,...and then failed completely.

For me its all about club football and their performances there. Have a strong season or two and then you can evaluate them. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

We can and should do better. 

[Vesper 30,081]

On 25/06/2019 at 0:07 AM, Arlen Correa said:

Everton is playing in the local league and is 200% better than him. I bet there are other players in smaller european leagues cheaper and with same level as Neres.

Cebolinha FTW

all day over Neres

 

Grêmio produces players who often play well in Europe

also

another great young winger who is under the radar is

Donyell Malen from PSV, a 20yo who scored 10 goals and had 5 assists in only 962 minutes in the top flight Eredivisie, plus scored in only 14 minutes in his first CL game

Arsenal stupidly sold him 2 years ago

 

[Arlen Correa 161]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

Cebolinha FTW

all day over Neres

 

Grêmio produces players who often play well in Europe

also

another great young winger who is under the radar is

Donyell Malen from PSV, a 20yo who scored 10 goals and had 5 assists in only 962 minutes in the top flight Eredivisie, plus scored in only 14 minutes in his first CL game

Arsenal stupidly sold him 2 years ago

 

Cebolinha I grew up reading those hqs.

Gremio produces very good players. They tend to only play the youth when they are 21yo but at least they are well developed in general. They have two new midfielders that are playing very well in the Libertadores and i think we should follow: Jean Pyerre and Matheus Henrique.

 

I do not follow PSV but based in some videos i watched Donyell Malen apparently can play in both wings and really can cross a football.

[Jase 43,479]