Anderson Talisca

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On 9/27/2018 at 11:10 AM, Johnnyeye said:

i agree our loaning system is very flawed, we simply have too much players on loan, the club needs to decide who they want to keep around or not, and sell players that need playing time in order to help their development as professionals. The reality is we wont be able to keep all of them and surely not all of them will succeed here at Chelsea, so we might as well let them go elsewhere to fulfill their objectives, and for those players we really do want to keep, ( Mount, Ampadu, CHO, RLC, Tomori, Abraham, etc...) we do have the option of selling some with buy back clauses if needed, to avoid brain farts ( Salah, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Sturridge, just to name a few ) again. Eventually we will need to get rid of deadweight players in order to accomodate younger and promising ones, and the ocasional deal for a top player, we have some players in key positions pushing 30+ years and in the long term is ill advised, look what happened with the Milan teams.

This is going to make it pointless for us to keep a large academy.

We bring in these kids some from the age of 7 who stay with us training all with the dream of course make it into the 1st team.

Of course realistically this couldn't happen tho in that perfect world we would at least make a good selection of them.

But by rights they should be able to find places somewhere in the world to apply their trade and unless they go out on loan how the fuck will they get to be seen?

What are we expected to do with all the kids in the academy every year after all the money we lay out for their training? Stick them on the dole?

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On 9/26/2018 at 7:09 PM, LAM09 said:

On 9/26/2018 at 6:43 PM, Hazardinho Gaucho said:

Terrible career management. 

That could go for a number of Brazilians: Alex Teixeira, Hulk, Oscar to name a few.

Teixeira and Hulk are good players who chose money over a bit more exposure, but don't think either would be playing for a top club.

Oscar is a diff case because his ceiling was higher, and was considered a huge potential at some point. While he had good moments, he certainly did not fulfill his potential, but could have easily found a top club elsewhere, esp in Italy.

He too chose money, but then again, it was a lot of money: Oscar was the 5th highest paid footballer a few months ago (right below Pogba). Prob still is.

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Teixeira and Hulk are good players who chose money over a bit more exposure, but don't think either would be playing for a top club.
Oscar is a diff case because his ceiling was higher, and was considered a huge potential at some point. While he had good moments, he certainly did not fulfill his potential, but could have easily found a top club elsewhere, esp in Italy.
He too chose money, but then again, it was a lot of money: Oscar was the 5th highest paid footballer a few months ago (right below Pogba). Prob still is.

It all depends on what you view as a top club. We were linked with Hulk on countless occasions, but his move to Zenit effectively ended his progress.

Any player (under 30) that values money over trophies are in the game for the wrong reasons.

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4 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Any player (under 30) that values money over trophies are in the game for the wrong reasons.

I understand what you mean when you say this but I've always thought that players should be free to decide for themselves what the right or wrong reasons might be. A lot of players, including Claude Makelele, have joined our club for the money. Many Chelsea fans, though not me I admit, regard Maka as one of our greatest ever players. This clearly indicates that moving for cash does mean a footballer can't also perform well enough at his new club to be respected by the fans he plays for.

I think there is a similarity between Maka and Oscar. Maka was at Chelsea because none of the clubs he preferred to join wanted him enough to match his demands or Madrid's. I don't believe any top clubs were interested in Oscar. I think clubs had seen enough of him to reassess his ceiling downwards by the time he left Chelsea.

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On 9/27/2018 at 2:43 AM, Hazardinho Gaucho said:

Terrible career management. 

Couldn't agree more.

One of his peons should tell him to come join us.

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

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What?

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2 minutes ago, Hazardinho Gaucho said:

What?

mispost, sorry

 

but I do love Talisca, goal machine

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

mispost, sorry

 

but I do love Talisca, goal machine

hahaha Was wondering what Mz Vesper was upto just then?

Guessing you was watching the match tho!

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4 hours ago, Vesper said:

mispost, sorry

 

but I do love Talisca, goal machine

Yeah i like him too. He was like a false 9 in Brazil. I thought he could develop into a top class 9 with that left foot. But he went to Portugal and they started to play him deep in midfield. He got bad luck with in his career.

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On 03/02/2019 at 0:15 AM, Hazardinho Gaucho said:

Yeah i like him too. He was like a false 9 in Brazil. I thought he could develop into a top class 9 with that left foot. But he went to Portugal and they started to play him deep in midfield. He got bad luck with in his career.

He has been an badass AMF in Turkey and China

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I just wonder if he might likea challenge and get back to some high pressure football