Callum Hudson-Odoi

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12 minutes ago, Robchels said:

FFS indeed! That's exactly what I'm talking about: you only know what has been made available to the public. Are you in talks with his agent? If so, when you request a meeting to discuss Odoi's contract, do you get it? Right away, or are you snubbed entirely? If there is an impasse, is it regarding what?  playing time?  

Does he want to go to bayern for more playing time (bullshit!) or want to move to a bigger club for more money? If the later, his *public* statement (or his agen's) are misleading and merely for the fans. In other words, we don't have the same information the club has. If the issue was ONLY playing time, write a contract that addresses that, as per year basis, and/or per achievement (known as add-ons). That's why I don't think it's playing time, but don't know for sure, because we don't know what's going on. Maybe the club doesn't think he's all that?

I'm fairly confident the next manager will deal VERY similarly with Odoi, esp because it is being dealt by the club as well.

Regarding the rest, maybe, but that's the situation the club is in.

IF he plays at RW, he has very little competition at Bayern atm (do you even look at rosters and future-forward moves before you posit things?), other than an out of position Gnabry

You are one of those appeal to authority types who always thinks there is some grand scheme going on and that the club is infallible at the end of the day and all will work out

pro tip:

you

are

WRONG

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7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

IF he plays at RW, he has very little competition at Bayern atm (do you even look at rosters and future-forward moves before you posit things?), other than an out of position Gnabry

You are one of those appeal to authority types who always thinks there is some grand scheme going on and that the club is infallible at the end of the day and all will work out

pro tip:

you

are

WRONG

as

 

 

here we go again... once again, you don't know my type, because you really don't know anything about me. Authority...  there is no such thing.

Do I think the well-paid quacks at chelsea know a bit more than the random quacks posting here, sure thing!  

Going back to football, which is what this is all about, you think the issue is playing time, and I don't. 

 

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Just now, Robchels said:

here we go again... once again, you don't know my type, because you really don't know anything about me. Authority...  there is no such thing.

Do I think the well-paid quacks at chelsea know a bit more than the random quacks posting here, sure thing!  

Going back to football, which is what this is all about, you think the issue is playing time, and I don't. 

 

I think the

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well-paid quacks

 on the board are literally losing hundreds of millions in transfer sales valuations as we speak and have for years, plus have made horrid buys and horrid sales, so I fell quite comfortable slating them hard. They, by most metrics, seem to have little to no future-forward awareness when it comes to the market and their own players intentions.

That is being concretely borne out as we speak.

 

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think the

 on the board are literally losing hundreds of millions in transfer sales valuations as we speak and have for years, plus have made horrid buys and horrid sales, so I fell quite comfortable slating them hard. They, by most metrics, seem to have little to no future-forward awareness when it comes to the market and their own players intentions.

That is being concretely borne out as we speak.

 

They most likely are, but not "losing hundreds of millions" and "to have little to no future-forward awareness" might not be part of their goals, considering they keep on collecting their fat paychecks. I'm sure that they also make mistakes, even within the skewed parameters in which they operate, but in the end they merely do the owners bidding.

The prerogative of being the owner is that he gets to dictate how the club is run... that's capitalism. It's different in other places where clubs are still owned and run by the people.

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Just now, Robchels said:

They most likely are, but not "losing hundreds of millions" and "to have little to no future-forward awareness" might not be part of their goals, considering they keep on collecting their fat paychecks. I'm sure that they also make mistakes, even within the skewed parameters in which they operate, but in the end they merely do the owners bidding.

The prerogative of being the owner is that he gets to dictate how the club is run... that's capitalism. It's different in other places where clubs are still owned and run by the people.

I have been screaming for the club to be sold, for a huge number of reasons, and yes, I agree that the board are puppets of Abramovich, but they still are shit.

Also they HAVE lost hundreds of millions in transfer valuations, and that is cemeneted in if we have Willian, Hazard and CHO walk on frees in summer 2020.

Just those 3 alone had concrete offers since last summer of £280m en toto. 

Hazard £175m from Real (we said £200m)

Willian £65m from Barca

CHO £40m from Bayern (we wanted £45m, and I do grant THAT number might have been attempted gamesmanship, and now it too looks like it will blow up in our face)

Add in the £30m we turned down for Luiz  from PSG (who likely will walk on a free), and the £40m or so we lost on the Big Nose forced sale, and you are talking 

£350m in losses (if all walk on frees)

£620m in total offers last summer turned down (as I have extensively documented for ages on this very board)

we will be lucky to walk out with 30% or 40% or so of that

Plus Abramovich is now apparently (and it was the case that he turned down Ratcliffe's £2bn offer) refusing to sell to any UK buyer, due to his not getting a visa renewal.

He is a globally targeted bloke, due to the yanks/Trump/Putin/now the UK via Skripal etc shite.

I would NOT be shocked at all if FIFA has not been under back-door political pressure to fuck us (and thus Roman) up.

 

Roman Abramovich on list of six Russian oligarchs targeted by UK intelligence over links to Putin

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/07/romanabramovich-list-six-russian-oligarchs-targeted-uk-intelligence/

 

Is Abramovich at last paying the price for being too close to Putin?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/is-abramovich-paying-price-for-being-too-close-to-putin

 

Even Russia itself is putting the old bovver boots in.

Abramovich Forced to Sell Stake in Russian TV Channel Over Israeli Citizenship

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/07/abramovich-forced-sell-stake-russian-tv-channel-after-israeli-citizenship-a64743

 

We (as in CFC) are caught in a giant global geo-poltical cold war and paying (and will pay) a steep, steep price.

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CALLUM HUDSON-ODOI THANKS RUBEN LOFTUS-CHEEK FOR ASSIST

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2019/03/09/callum-hudson-odoi-thanks-ruben-loftus-cheek-for-assist?cardIndex=0-0

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Chelsea youngster Callum Hudson-Odoi is reportedly being considered for an England Under-21 call-up – at the age of just 18 years and four months.

The Mail on Sunday say Hudson-Odoi, who was part of the England Under-17s World Cup-winning team in 2017, could be moved up to the Under-21s after impressing for Chelsea and attracting interest from Bayern Munich.

[the wes 7,212]

It will be heart breaking to see this kid leave 🙁🙁

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9 minutes ago, the wes said:

It will be heart breaking to see this kid leave 🙁🙁

watch Sarri tells you until he becomes 22 or 23yrs before he considers him a top player

[NikkiCFC 8,289]

5 goals and 5 assist in around 800 minutes this season is pretty impressive for a 18 years old kid. I don't care what position we finish next season with transfer ban just give him number 10 and play him every PL game. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Board better not fuck up and keep him at all costs.

That said, I dont think he actualy wanted to leave in january. Bayern was surely serious, but Odoi giving transfer request was probably just press bs.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

looks like the kid is having a nice swansong. will be even more valuable when we sell him in summer.

[OneMoSalah 8,884]

Good game. Was one moment where he could have set Pedro up for another assist but took too many touches. Got to be in contention to play at the weekend surely?

[Yeboii 1,844]

Doubt he can say that Chelsea are not developing him. He is getting better and better. STAY