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23 minutes ago, MUTU said:

Also, since 2016, we got Hummels (a Bayern youth product) back, and sold Goetze and Rode to Borussia Dortmund while you guys took Kante and Drinkwater from Leicester, a new rival.  Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Wish they'd buy back Drinkwater.   Maybe a Drinkwater/Chilwell swap.  

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12 minutes ago, MUTU said:

Wait, are you saying that Chelsea, Napoli and Juventus do not regularly buy players from their own league?

Since summer 2016 we sold 2 players to Borussia Dortmund and signed back our youth product Hummels while you killed up-and-coming Leicester City signing their star player Kante and their less-important player Drinkwater. Seriously thinking what Bayern doing is anything special shows extreme prejudice which you then fully confirm with the continuation of comparing beating us to your first born. Hope you didn't name your son Didier!

Up and coming? They were the ultimate one year wonder. If not us, another top 10 team wpukd have taken Kante. Many non EPL teams. Bayern maybe? Lolol Jelly.

As for Drinkwater, we gave them a £35m dollar gift. He is huge blow to our club. £70m (with wages) down the shitter.

We are hardly the dominant transfer bullies of the league or of Europe. We usually FAIL disastrously trying to buy Serie A players. We just paid £72m for a GK who 2 years ago probably was worth £20m. That 80 million euros is gold dust for Athletic Bilbao. 

We are hardly kill-buying rivals like you lot do. I know you will fuck Leipzig up bad with Werner. Probably get him on a free. It's the Bayern way.

 

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8 minutes ago, kc_blue said:

Wish they'd buy back Drinkwater.   Maybe a Drinkwater/Chilwell swap.  

I will carry Donkeywater on my back to Leicester for that swap, even if it takes me 6 months to get there. 

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Wish they'd buy back Drinkwater.   Maybe a Drinkwater/Chilwell swap.  [emoji185]

Good one. Still you can't deny me my point here. What Bayern did to BVB has been done by just about anyone, including BVB to Bayern. Still waiting for a nomination for some club that has not consistently bought players from within its own league.  

 

And we seriously don't do it as frequent as you like to think. The average Arsenal lineup has more players obtained from the Bundesliga than the average Bayern one I'd say... Does that mean Arsenal are destroying the Bundesliga too?

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Anyway I didn't come here to fight. I was mostly angry by some accusations of tapping and glad that nobody challenged that at least.

 

I'm here for more info. Do you think CHO has the current ability to come in January and get decent playing time this season given we would have 6 wingers? Ribéry, Robben, Coman, Gnabry and new January signing (destroying the MLS [emoji14]) Davies...

 

 Keep in mind Ribéry and Robben are well past their prime while everyone's quite injury prone.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, MUTU said:

25 minutes ago, kc_blue said:

Wish they'd buy back Drinkwater.   Maybe a Drinkwater/Chilwell swap.  

Good one. Still you can't deny me my point here. What Bayern did to BVB has been done by just about anyone. Still waiting for a nomination for some club that has not consistently bought players from within its own league.

Now you are moving the goalposts. It is not just buying players within your own league! It's systemically buy-killing off your most likely competition. Huge difference. It would be like us baiting Kane to leave spuds on a free. Or De Bruyne (dont forget fact we stupidly fucked ourselves on the best AMF in world BY SELLING HIM CUT-RATE TO A GERMAN club) to leave Shitty. Or Alexander-Arnold. Or Pogba. 

I wish we could, but we DONT.

Ffs WE sold Matic to Manure and fucked up our balance. Salah ended up at bloody Victimpool. Real raped us on Big Nose (price wise, they get now what they deserve from that cunt).

What rival team have we fucked over by buying a key player and had it actually remotely work like you lot do in Germany? Kante WAS GONE, if not us, another, and zero chance anyway Leicester was ever going to be a perennial title threat.

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8 minutes ago, MUTU said:

Anyway I didn't come here to fight. I was mostly angry by some accusations of tapping and glad that nobody challenged that at least.

 

I'm here for more info. Do you think CHO has the current ability to come in January and get decent playing time this season given we would have 6 wingers? Ribéry, Robben, Coman, Gnabry and new January signing (destroying the MLS ) Davies...

 

 Keep in mind Ribéry and Robben are well past their prime while everyone's quite injury prone.

 

 

You want more info, sell us Alaba or no deal.

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Kante was gone and Lewandowski wasn't? Hummels was our former player and we got him back? Götze? He's to us as Drinkwater was to you except we did sell him back.

If it's quantity you're talking about, BVB bought as many players from us as we got from them. And thy got more from the rest of the Bundesliga.

If it's quality you're talking about then that's really selective and possibly jealous. It's OK as long as they're not stars? Not to mention that Goetze and Hummels, and also arguably Lewandowski (4 in one match against Madrid, none with Bayern shirt) had their best times at BVB anyway. Also we can't seem to land a Bundesliga star in a long while. Sane, De Bruyne, Dembele, Aubameyang... The star exodus goes on and on, but not to Bayern. Instead we're getting players like James, Sanches, Tolisso and, maybe, CHO.

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You want more info, sell us Alaba or no deal.

Haha that's quite a poor request out of all the ones you could've made. Alaba's lost a bit of touch. Gone are the days he used to be better than Marcelo. But you can have him for 120M. Deal?

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Anyway I didn't come here to fight. I was mostly angry by some accusations of tapping and glad that nobody challenged that at least.
 
I'm here for more info. Do you think CHO has the current ability to come in January and get decent playing time this season given we would have 6 wingers? Ribéry, Robben, Coman, Gnabry and new January signing (destroying the MLS [emoji14]) Davies...
 
 Keep in mind Ribéry and Robben are well past their prime while everyone's quite injury prone.
 
 

Dunno you’re genuinely enquiring or just having a dig at us but do yourself a favor and stop asking how CHO will fit in your team because no one here will give you a shit. It’s like me asking you how good is your wife in bed that I’m going to have sex with. Sense?

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Just now, MUTU said:

Kante was gone and Lewandowski wasn't? Hummels was our former player and we got him back? Götze? He's to us as Drinkwater was to you except we did sell him back.

If it's quantity you're talking about, BVB bought as many players from us as we got from them. And thy got more from the rest of the Bundesliga.

If it's quality you're talking about then that's really selective and possibly jealous. It's OK as long as they're not stars? Not to mention that Goetze and Hummels, and also arguably Lewandowski (4 in one match against Madrid, none with Bayern shirt) had their best times at BVB anyway. Also we can't seem to land a Bundesliga star in a long while. Sane, De Bruyne, Dembele, Aubameyang... The star exodus goes on and on, but not to Bayern. Instead we're getting players like James, Sanches, Tolisso and, maybe, CHO.

Ffs, Kante would have been purchased, neither we nor anyones else manipulated him like you did with Lewa.

Dortmund is Hollywood feeder club.

And AGAIN you play semantically bullshit games.

Kill-buying rivals is WHAT YOU DO. Obviously buying a plonker within the league that shifts no real power balance is not the same. And stop trying to compare Glenn Murray being punted about to you rotters taking Lewandowski ON A FREE.

It's pure tosh!

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LOLZ 

 

the problem with bauern is not poaching talents from their direct "rivals"  (mickey mouse bundesliga is 75% made of championship level clubs) but instead of paying a reasonable fee like premier league clubs they tell the player to run the contract down and then snap it up for free. I mean it is an intelligent strategy in the sort term. Bayern maintain their dominance even if they player is just average like Goretzka but they at least weaken the other teams, they save money. Everyone loses only bayern wins.

Only like this, BAyern transfer record is around 45m which is what a club like Bournemouth eats for breakfast. 

What they have not really considered is by relegating the bundesliga to a minor league in the process they lose market share, tv money and thus also the zillionth bundesliga title is worth zero. Bayern get bigger but the leageu gets smaller, which turns Bayern from a european heavyweight more towards a german Celtic glasgow. Could as well win the belarussian league with a 800m squad no one gives a damn. Makes it even more ridiculous how Bayern in their endless arrogance achieve to not win the bundesliga at times like this season. Dortmund who play a 18 y.o in their starting lineup and a bunch of other players no one has ever heard of wiped the floor with bayern a few weeks back it was an absolute joy to watch. Actually that is the only joy you can have when watching bundesliga is the bauern being completely outclassed by a team with 1/10 their budget every once in a while. Shame the other clubs of blindenliga never put up a fight

And back to the point how damn ridiculous is it that someone comes to a chelsea forum to ask whether 40m is too much for CHO. This is a club who spent 120m on Morata+Torres, rejected 65m for Willian^^ 

In England 40m buys you players like Danny fucking Drinkwater and thats it. 40m is what a relegation-battler spends for their average summer buy. So go penny-pinching somewhere else. What do you wanna hear? 40m is too much for one of our best homegrown talents? 

 

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1 hour ago, MUTU said:

I'm here for more info. Do you think CHO has the current ability to come in January and get decent playing time this season given we would have 6 wingers? Ribéry, Robben, Coman, Gnabry and new January signing (destroying the MLS ) Davies...

 

I think he could do well but probably not worth it for you.  He's much more valuable to us then to you talking about now until the end of the season.  We are having a bit of an injury crisis at the moment and he offers something none of other wingers do really.  

In my opinion the odds are he'll always do better here then moving in the short term, now until the end of the season.  He's been here since he was 7, he's comfortable, he has his support here.  Moving there he's going to take time to get acclimated.  Does he speak German?  Even if he does it's still going to be an adjustment period and I don't see that he would really perform as well under those situations.  

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1 hour ago, MUTU said:

Good one. Still you can't deny me my point here. What Bayern did to BVB has been done by just about anyone, including BVB to Bayern. Still waiting for a nomination for some club that has not consistently bought players from within its own league.  

 

And we seriously don't do it as frequent as you like to think. The average Arsenal lineup has more players obtained from the Bundesliga than the average Bayern one I'd say... Does that mean Arsenal are destroying the Bundesliga too?

What Dortmund did to Bayern is the same?

Dortmund for a couple of years got the better of you (not just a one off) and in response to this you took their best centre back, their playmaker on a release clause that at the time seemed fairly modest and their striker, the best in the league on a free.

The players that Dortmund have had from yourselves are fringe players no longer wanted by Bayern. It's nothing like the same thing.

Bayern always look to buy first from Germany. It's a sound strategy don't get me wrong because it not only strengthens you but weakens anybody that dare challenges in Germany. You can call it anything you want, but for me Bayern have always strong armed any rivals, are well above everything else consistently in the Bundesliga and it's a big reason why the league is so boring compared to England because its predictable at large.

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Is this Bayern dude for real? Getting Lewandowski was all fair and square with absolutely no illegal tapping up and bullying done?

It was really obvious to everyone and their grandma from about early 2013 that Lewandowski would be running down his contract and sign for Bayern when his deal expired in 2014, well over a year before actually moving so Dortmund had absolutely zero chance in convincing him to sign an extension when the player already knew the offer from Bayern.

Sure there were still rumours of some other teams making desperate attempts to signing him but his mind had already been made up after meetings with Bayern while still under contract at Dortmund. Lewandowski even confirmed himself as early as November 2013 what everyone already knew that he would be leaving for Bayern at the end of the season. Don't the rules say that other clubs can only start negotiating when there's less than six months left in the contract, yet this one was already confirmed well before that but they only officially signed the contract when it was legal.

Have a read here:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/robert-lewandowskis-agent-confirms-the-forwards-transfer-to-bayern-munich-8633301.html

Does this seem like all was done by the books? The date is from May 2013 so more than a year before contract expiration.

Poaching Dortmund's star players Götze and Hummels is apparently all good too, just because Bayern sometimes sell their unwanted rejects like Rode to them as well.

Bayern even had the audacity to threaten reporting Real Madrid, Chelsea and Manchester United on illegal approaches for Lewandowski last year after said clubs got interested when his agent made it public it could be a time for his client to move on. The hypocrisy of Bayern is almost unrivaled in world football.