ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 10 hours ago, LAM09 said: It's sad times where we're in talks to sign someone of his quality for £35-40m. He'd essentially be filling a Tiago-esque role. The only plus about this potentially happening is his HG status. 35-40 is the new "normal" so to speak. Chris Wood of Burnley is going for £15m from Leeds, Andre Gray is nearly £20m. Its the market now. Drinkwater is not as bad as made out on here, he just isnt. Neither is Ross Barkley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 47 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said: 35-40 is the new "normal" so to speak. Chris Wood of Burnley is going for £15m from Leeds, Andre Gray is nearly £20m. Its the market now. Drinkwater is not as bad as made out on here, he just isnt. Neither is Ross Barkley This is why selling Matic for £40M doesn't make sense anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 19 hours ago, Pizy said: Miguel Delaney has a piece just out saying that David Luiz's performance against Spuds may effect Conte's thinking going forward in terms of transfer targets. That maybe David can permanently move into midfield and as a result signing VVD makes sense and we'd have no reason to sign Drinkwater. It's an interesting idea and I like the thought of a midfield 3 of Baka/Kante/Luiz like we deployed at Spuds. David sits at the base while Kante and Baka use their endless energy to bomb forward and support the attack more. Would save us quite a bit of money that's for sure. Never going to happen. Why? Because, I saw Antonio watching the game on Sunday. The boss may have described David's performance as "amazing" but he won't have been fooled by it. DL did really well in the defensive side of the midfield role. I hope he'll do equally well each time he plays there because he'd need to. Despite much hype to the contrary, DL is no midfield player. He was pretty horrible in possession. Instead of helping to solve our problem against the press, he just contributed to our troubles. With David in the middle of the park the ball will keep coming back at us. Just like it did on Sunday. Hence the opportunity for David to make tackles and interceptions a plenty. Just like on Sunday. Media types can say what they want. I don't care that their opinions so often bear little resemblance to reality, but I have more confidence in Antonio. Emergencies apart, David ain't becoming a midfield regular for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Tautvix said: This is why selling Matic for £40M doesn't make sense anymore. You mean we should have held out for more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Never going to happen. Why? Because, I saw Antonio watching the game on Sunday. The boss may have described David's performance as "amazing" but he won't have been fooled by it. DL did really well in the defensive side of the midfield role. I hope he'll do equally well each time he plays there because he'd need to. Despite much hype to the contrary, DL is no midfield player. He was pretty horrible in possession. Instead of helping to solve our problem against the press, he just contributed to our troubles. With David in the middle of the park the ball will keep coming back at us. Just like it did on Sunday. Hence the opportunity for David to make tackles and interceptions a plenty. Just like on Sunday. Media types can say what they want. I don't care that their opinions so often bear little resemblance to reality, but I have more confidence in Antonio. Emergencies apart, David ain't becoming a midfield regular for Chelsea. Yeah agree, if the choice is buy a centre back and move Luiz into midfield or keep Luiz at the back and buy a midfielder it's the second option all day long. He's a serviceable midfielder, who may play there a couple of times a season when struggling for numbers or possibly late on when holding on to a lead. But he's a natural and one of our best centre backs, he's a far better player than he was in his first stint at the club in that position. We need a natural central midfield option in the squad so there is little need to play him there in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: You mean we should have held out for more? Yes should have asked for more or don't sell because now we are getting a player for £30M... It was always about who we can get after selling Matic and getting Drinkwater is a move backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, Tautvix said: Yes should have asked for more or don't sell because now we are getting a player for £30M... It was always about who we can get after selling Matic and getting Drinkwater is a move backwards. The error was not bringing our target in first. There is an argument that if we bring someone in first it weakens our position of selling because the buying team knows that we're happy for Matic to leave but in this instance we knew United wanted him and would've paid our asking price. Now we're in the position of looking desperate. We probably could have negotiated Drinkwater for £20 - 25m before selling Matic but Leicester can see we're desperate and have just flogged Matic for £40m so were always going to play hardball to get more money from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 12 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: The error was not bringing our target in first. There is an argument that if we bring someone in first it weakens our position of selling because the buying team knows that we're happy for Matic to leave but in this instance we knew United wanted him and would've paid our asking price. Now we're in the position of looking desperate. We probably could have negotiated Drinkwater for £20 - 25m before selling Matic but Leicester can see we're desperate and have just flogged Matic for £40m so were always going to play hardball to get more money from us. Leicester were always going to play hardball come what may. They don't want to sell and don't need the money. What other type of ball would they even think of? As for Drinkwater being a Matic downgrade, let'a see about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Rmc sport, apperantly reliable, says a fee been agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Second signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Abreu03 292 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Worst signing of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Abreu03 said: Worst signing of the season. Bet you said the same about Alonso....now he is your avatar. CRAZY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 welcome danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abreu03 292 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Polo7 said: Bet you said the same about Alonso....now he is your avatar. CRAZY! NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 So hold on a minute, a French media outlet breaking the news of a transfer between a Russian owned English club and a Thai owned English club for an English player? Sounds like a dodgy rumour at best, why would they be the first to report it? That being said, I fully expect him to sign either way but it's not because of that latest tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy 439 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The new scapegoat when we lose I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jype said: So hold on a minute, a French media outlet breaking the news of a transfer between a Russian owned English club and a Thai owned English club for an English player? Sounds like a dodgy rumour at best, why would they be the first to report it? That being said, I fully expect him to sign either way but it's not because of that latest tweet. Some people have said Leicester want to replace Drinkwater with Krychowiak from PSG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Georgy said: The new scapegoat when we lose I reckon. Yep, the midfield spot has been the scapegoat for years now, with people not appreciating Mikel and Matic. No reason to see Drinkwater get the same treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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