OneMoSalah 8,888 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I honestly don't think Koulibaly is much much better than this kid from what I've seen. Both are decent and can still improve but we have young CBs in Zouma and Christensen who's out on loan, we need a guy who's in his best years and can give us something different. Even then the money being talked about for these two spend it on Laporte from Bilbao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 On 20 July 2016 at 0:38 PM, Pizy said: Is this supposed to be in addition to a top CB signing or instead of one? If it's the latter I'd be extremely disappointed. We need essentially a "can't miss" signing at CB not a project or someone that may or may not be ready for the top level like this guy. We need someone who is a clear upgrade on what we have. People are forgetting that we have Christensen coming back next season... I wouldn't blame the club for not really over pursuing tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avroneelbiswas 33 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 35 minutes ago, The Skipper said: People are forgetting that we have Christensen coming back next season... I wouldn't blame the club for not really over pursuing tbh. What about this season? How would we survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, avroneelbiswas said: What about this season? How would we survive? Of course we can survive. Think long term. Football isn't just about the next season coming up, and we have been given a nice season off from Europe to rebuild. Christensen in my opinion is good enough to be a top CB in the near future, and he can play here for a very long time. We need to sign a new CB but I don't want to see us spending stupid money when we have a very good CB coming back next year. We should be able to pursue top four without spending stupid money on a CB that's not really much better than him. Patience is a virtue. It sets out club up much better in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Of course we can survive. Think long term. Football isn't just about the next season coming up, and we have been given a nice season off from Europe to rebuild. Christensen in my opinion is good enough to be a top CB in the near future, and he can play here for a very long time. We need to sign a new CB but I don't want to see us spending stupid money when we have a very good CB coming back next year. We should be able to pursue top four without spending stupid money on a CB that's not really much better than him. Patience is a virtue. It sets out club up much better in the long run. But we can't afford to lose Champions league again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, jernej93 said: But we can't afford to lose Champions league again. I agree. If you look at other threads I've consistently said we need a new CB and a new fullback (LB preferably). Just don't want to see us spending too much on a CB who isn't top class when we have a similar player returning next year. IMO anyway for this season we need a good full back more than a pretty good CB. A good LB - X - Zouma - Azpi can get us into the CL I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avroneelbiswas 33 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 39 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Of course we can survive. Think long term. Football isn't just about the next season coming up, and we have been given a nice season off from Europe to rebuild. Christensen in my opinion is good enough to be a top CB in the near future, and he can play here for a very long time. We need to sign a new CB but I don't want to see us spending stupid money when we have a very good CB coming back next year. We should be able to pursue top four without spending stupid money on a CB that's not really much better than him. Patience is a virtue. It sets out club up much better in the long run. Long term? Our owner neither has patience nor the vision. Fact is if Conte fail to succeed in the first season, I am sure Roman would sack him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, avroneelbiswas said: Long term? Our owner neither has patience nor the vision. Fact is if Conte fail to succeed in the first season, I am sure Roman would sack him too. I really doubt it. You must be living in the past if you think that's still the same. I don't think there's pressure on Conte to win a trophy this year, just to finish well in the league and build his image of the team up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avroneelbiswas 33 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Skipper said: I really doubt it. You must be living in the past if you think that's still the same. I don't think there's pressure on Conte to win a trophy this year, just to finish well in the league and build his image of the team up. I know, he doesn't have a target to win a trophy this season. But without a good squad, we can simply forget about the Champions league next season. If that happens, we will have an angry Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, avroneelbiswas said: I know, he doesn't have a target to win a trophy this season. But without a good squad, we can simply forget about the Champions league next season. If that happens, we will have an angry Russian. I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is that we shouldn't spend money on an up and coming CB when we already have one in the ranks, albeit on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, The Skipper said: I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is that we shouldn't spend money on an up and coming CB when we already have one in the ranks, albeit on loan. Agree with this, we have 4 up and coming potentially world class CBs, don't need another. Get that already very very good CB and a FB and we'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Chelsea are set to increase their £20m offer to sign Benfica defender Victor Lindelof. (O Jogo) #CFC #SLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickaaa7 10 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Azpi-terry-zouma-aina !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I think we can survive once zouma comes back, hopefully Aina can play well enough to give us a boost. with all the youth(Clarke-Salter, Tomori, Christensen, Dasilva) + Ake it would be a shame if we over bid to fill the need and shutting another path to the 1st team with an expensive import. The numbers are outrageous this summer for defenders that im sure are great but its just ridiculous at the moment. I hate ivanovic as much as the next guy but i truly believe he can be useful as a CB this year. I am very torn in that i think we need a CB(and LB) but 50mill for koulibaly!? we were balking at that much for Bonucci at the beginning of the summer! Azpi + Ivanovic + Zouma + Aina for me with Cahill + Terry covering depending on matchups Unless a proven stud is attainable im very nervous at these prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ivanovic is a terror. You are all kidding yourselves if you think we can go through the season with him starting. In case anyone forgot we actually finished 31 points behind the leaders last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I really like what I see of him on Youtube. He is strong, tall, fast and really good with the ball at his feet, almost like a striker. I know Youtube can be deceiving, but Koulibaly will be a risk as well. Koulibaly has a really bad record for fouls and he'll do even worse in the Premier League which is harder than Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Maybe they see him as RB, if Iva is out. That's what he played in the euros. Sadly that would mean, aina wouldnt really get his chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 ^ that is the thing. Too many people are expecting Koulibaly to come in and impress, but we don't know what will happen if he comes. All I know is it seems he's come off a good season for Napoli, but considering it is the Italian league I don't know what to think about that. For all we know, this Swedish lad could adapt to the league quickly and become a beast CB, while Everton or someone else sign Koulibaly and he goes on to flop, and then we can breathe a sigh of relief for dodging that bullet. It is all opinions at the moment, but we have top scouts looking at these players and I put my trust in them to come up with the goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Get him as soon as possible. He's great ball playing defender that could start in our team and Conte can mold him into another Bonucci. This guy is still raw but is exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Get him as soon as possible. He's great ball playing defender that could start in our team and Conte can mold him into another Bonucci. This guy is still raw but is exactly what we need. I wouldn't go rushing in to buy someone that hardly been a starter for Benfica, when we need a player to step right in that still has room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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