Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 just had a great idea ,,, Jose says we have been playing well but unlucky ,, Well here is the cunning plan Baldric told me .Its simple WE PLAY SHIT and GET LUCKY ,,, we used to be good at that.now it's play shit lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 yeah because dropping Cesc and Hazard is the answer to our problems! lets take our 2 most creative players out the team and hope for the best right? This isnt Fifa where you can create chances with any random player, this is real life.What good is creativity if you are just going to leave your marker in the box and let them score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 what has Kenedy done to get in the team ahead of Hazard?Hazard has created the 2nd most chances in the PL this season and the 5th most key passes in Europe, but yeah lets drop our most creative player and play a youngster and hope for the bestWell for starter Kenedy looks like he wants to play and fight for the club. This season Hazard dont. its quite simple really. Stats dont really impress me at times like this when for 89 mins he is playing like dog shit and then does one little decent run in to the corner and passes it back. Its the same story as Ivanovic because he once did something good for us he cannot be dropped we must not upset his ego and all that bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 yeah because dropping Cesc and Hazard is the answer to our problems! lets take our 2 most creative players out the team and hope for the best right? This isnt Fifa where you can create chances with any random player, this is real life.what chances? what chances have they created that have led to goals? what have they done which has led to goals.cesc makes us inept. as simple as that. he is a liability defensively and when was the last time he put a through ball. for a "creative player", tell me when was the last time he played a through ball, not a quarter backish long pass which anywyas has a low conversion rate.and hazard. seriously? right now? willian right now is a much better player than hazard in this form. saturday will be about fighting it out. and hazard clearly is not on the level yet. so yes, this is real life where willian can score from freekicks or ramires can score a scorcher from 25 yards or RLC can produce the best attacking moment of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 What good is creativity if you are just going to leave your marker in the box and let them score?we obviously need to defend much better also, but i am talking about the people who would drop Cesc and Hazard and play RLC and Kenedy and expect things to get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 yeah because dropping Cesc and Hazard is the answer to our problems! lets take our 2 most creative players out the team and hope for the best right? This isnt Fifa where you can create chances with any random player, this is real life.you're now defending Cesc?? Please tell we you're on a wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 A clean sheet/a win be a unexpected surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 what chances? what chances have they created that have led to goals? what have they done which has led to goals.cesc makes us inept. as simple as that. he is a liability defensively and when was the last time he put a through ball. for a "creative player", tell me when was the last time he played a through ball, not a quarter backish long pass which anywyas has a low conversion rate.and hazard. seriously? right now? willian right now is a much better player than hazard in this form. saturday will be about fighting it out. and hazard clearly is not on the level yet. so yes, this is real life where willian can score from freekicks or ramires can score a scorcher from 25 yards or RLC can produce the best attacking moment of the season.I can still somewhat understand Jose starting Hazard - he will want to pull him out of this confidence rain.Don't think Cesc needs to be dropped as much as Iva, nowhere nearly.I really wanna see RLC-Oscar-Ramires, however. I think it would be balanced enough to work - certainly would improve build up play from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 what chances? what chances have they created that have led to goals? what have they done which has led to goals.cesc makes us inept. as simple as that. he is a liability defensively and when was the last time he put a through ball. for a "creative player", tell me when was the last time he played a through ball, not a quarter backish long pass which anywyas has a low conversion rate.and hazard. seriously? right now? willian right now is a much better player than hazard in this form. saturday will be about fighting it out. and hazard clearly is not on the level yet. so yes, this is real life where willian can score from freekicks or ramires can score a scorcher from 25 yards or RLC can produce the best attacking moment of the season.as creative players that is all they can do is create its then up to their teammate to put the chance away, like Pedro shoud have against Newcaste from a great pass from Fabregas. dropping Cesc and Hazard in place of RLC and Kenedy isnt going to solve anything, especially with Remy or Falcao up front who cant do anything without service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Well prepare for your blood to boiled up. And I mean really prepare. Jose doesn't trust RLC enough to start in a PL game yet.But he Trusts brana lol. Quite scary really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Well for starter Kenedy looks like he wants to play and fight for the club. This season Hazard dont. its quite simple really. Stats dont really impress me at times like this when for 89 mins he is playing like dog shit and then does one little decent run in to the corner and passes it back. Its the same story as Ivanovic because he once did something good for us he cannot be dropped we must not upset his ego and all that bullshit saying Kenedy looks like he wants to play and fight doesnt impress me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 saying Kenedy looks like he wants to play and fight doesnt impress me.So you're saying you dont care if player dont fight? so by that then you must be over the moon with how we are playing ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 as creative players that is all they can do is create its then up to their teammate to put the chance away, like Pedro shoud have against Newcaste from a great pass from Fabregas. dropping Cesc and Hazard in place of RLC and Kenedy isnt going to solve anything, especially with Remy or Falcao up front who cant do anything without service.first of all, i am not dropping hazard for kenedy. look at the team, i proposed. in this form, oscar is as good a player as hazard and a 100 times better defensively.cesc, lets not even go there. mr. no balls can produce one good moment per match. thats it. how much does cesc effect the team's overall play. u still did not answer a simple question i put forth. for a "creative" player, when was the last time cesc played a "thru ball". i cant remember one. cesc does far far far more bad than good. simply put, he will be OWNED by soton's pressing. any team that can press a little, can render cesc as impotent. he will lose the ball 10 times in the game, make us circumspect to counters and simply kill our midfield both offensively and defnesively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 So you're saying you dont care if player dont fight? so by that then you must be over the moon with how we are playing ATM. no i am saying that doesnt impress me, you need more then just fight, you need some real quality to back it up, Kenedy isnt at that level yet, if you would drop Hazard for Kenedy and expect us to play better then you are deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 no i am saying that doesnt impress me, you need more then just fight, you need some real quality to back it up, Kenedy isnt at that level yet, if you would drop Hazard for Kenedy and expect us to play better then you are deludedKenedy must have some or he wouldn't be near the first team surely? By the standard we hold Hazard at he is playing awful pure and simple and i dont think he should be near the starting 11.I never said kenedy playing would make us better, but it wont make us worse. And im sorry but how does fighting for the shirt the club you love not impress you? I dont get that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 first of all, i am not dropping hazard for kenedy. look at the team, i proposed. in this form, oscar is as good a player as hazard and a 100 times better defensively.cesc, lets not even go there. mr. no balls can produce one good moment per match. thats it. how much does cesc effect the team's overall play. u still did not answer a simple question i put forth. for a "creative" player, when was the last time cesc played a "thru ball". i cant remember one. cesc does far far far more bad than good. simply put, he will be OWNED by soton's pressing. any team that can press a little, can render cesc as impotent. he will lose the ball 10 times in the game, make us circumspect to counters and simply kill our midfield both offensively and defnesively.Fabregas played a through ball today, and against Newcastle, Arsenal and Everton also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Fabregas played a through ball today, and against Newcastle, Arsenal and Everton also.fabregas played a long ball against newcastle and arsenal to pedro. and i specified in one of my previous posts the difference between them.when did he play a thru ball today?also, by your whole logic, we should literally put in the same team that played against newcastle out against SOTON right? again the matic-cesc pivot, pedro-hazard on the flanks. i can see us getting over-run and outplayed at the bridge by SOTON.oh, how the mighty have fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Clean Sheet.... What a Dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Kenedy must have some or he wouldn't be near the first team surely? By the standard we hold Hazard at he is playing awful pure and simple and i dont think he should be near the starting 11.I never said kenedy playing would make us better, but it wont make us worse. And im sorry but how does fighting for the shirt the club you love not impress you? I dont get that at all.Hazard hasnt been anywhere near as bad as you make out, and yes we would be worse with Kenedy in the team ahead of Hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't understand you. You defend these underperforming stars, but won't give young players who are hungry to fight for first team football a chance. What is the harm of giving them a chance? We are not doing well anyway! Especially with Fab and Hazard! What do we have to lose here.i dont see dropping our most creative players as the answer, i dont mind the youngsters playing, i dont mind Kenedy starting over Pedro, or RLC ahead of Matic, i just dont see the logic of dropping Hazard and Fabregas and thinking we will play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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