Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Vids and stats are only of limited use when judging a player, as you've already acknowledged above. Head off to Pedro's thread on the main Barca forum, though, and you'll find a number of posts over the last few pages praising his link-up play in the final third etc. Most of those people have watched him for years, and know all of his strengths and weaknesses.Ultimately, whilst I DO think that there are other players out there who may be capable of allowing the team to improve massively (Reus, Bale, maybe Isco etc), these players appear to be unavailable to us at this time, and so it seems that we shall either have to go for players like Pedro, or otherwise simply purchase no further attacking players at all.Pedro is technically gifted, a good short passer, a decent (but not brilliant) dribbler, and a fairly reliable goal-scorer with intelligent off-the-ball movement. Add to that the fact that he's a pretty fast player who is capable of using his speed effectively, and I think he could serve us (very) well as the 'goal-scoring AM/RM' that we've been hoping for. Schurrle and Cuadrado haven't worked out for us due to their relatively average levels of technique and passing ability, whilst Willian possesses the technique required but fails to be a consistent attacking threat for us on the right; Pedro could potentially offer us a blend of their various qualities/abilities when playing on the right, and so provide us with genuine balance across the AM positions.It would be no different than the musings of Chelsea supporters about our players. I'm not saying it won't be a good signing, he's the type of player who is very efficient, hasn't got a lot of mileage on his legs and can make an impact as a starter or off the bench.Not sure we see eye to eye on the his skill set and attributes but that is highly subjective. How we use words to describe a player is left up to interpretation... I like him as a player who will challenge our RW players to be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 oh the irony! atleast i dont go about quoting people trying to prove them wrong and then getting embarassed. ps - still waiting for the messi stats. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 A few days ago a certain poster laughed at the idea of Pedro being compared with Arda Turan. Now Mourinho is interested suddenly he's all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 so since turan was not the option, now pedro is not the option, please tell me who you think is a REALISTIC OPTION. or do you think going into the season with 4 AMs for 3 positions (one of which is cuadrado) is enough?also, if he is good enough as a rotation option then is not that exactly what we are looking for?We are looking for a starting RW and if it means to overpay to get someone than we should do it. This chicken approach won't help us in the long run. I know for sure i'd rather spend 50m on Reus than stitch it yet again with another stop gap option like Pedro for 20m.Yes, yes i know we aren't even linked to him or someone like him and it looks impossible for some of them to move this summer but please money talks im sure if we make a good offer for any of Reus, Griezmann, Isco or even Gotze they would think twice about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Pedro is alot better than Willian in every aspect. He'll be a huge improvement on him. We can still recoup alot of that £20m a year or 2 down the line if a player like Reus, Bale etc becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He has contract with Barcelona untill 2019 according to transfermarkt.yeah right now, but not 1 month or 2 ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 We are looking for a starting RW and if it means to overpay to get someone than we should do it. This chicken approach won't help us in the long run. I know for sure i'd rather spend 50m on Reus than stitch it yet again with another stop gap option like Pedro for 20m.Yes, yes i know we aren't even linked to him or someone like him and it looks impossible for some of them to move this summer but please money talks im sure if we make a good offer for any of Reus, Griezmann, Isco or even Gotze they would think twice about it. reus is not linked to us (as you have said, also if we have the money, so do RM and bayern)greizemann - this fascination with greizemann has got to end. like you said, we are looking for a RW. he is not a right winger. he is a second striker or a LW. i dont understand why people want to pay 44 million pounds for a player who is not even needed for that position.isco - CAM (brilliant signing to replace oscar and improve our starting 11 but not our RW position).gotze - CAM (same scenario as isco). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Reus is unavailable at the moment. You've just seen Delph reject City yesterday, maybe he wants to stay at Dortmund? Griezmann & Pedro are the same level. Hell, I'd argue the latter is the better player.Would be stupid to move for Griezmann when Sterling was available though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Pedro is alot better than Willian in every aspect. He'll be a huge improvement on him. We can still recoup alot of that £20m a year or 2 down the line if a player like Reus, Bale etc becomes available.End product yh maybe but overall Willian is a much better player.Pedro of 10-11 was one of the best winger in the world, nowadays he is probably just a winger that is good enough for Sevilla aka Jesus Navas like and anyone can see these type of players are not good enough to be starting for us and improve our 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 We are looking for a starting RW and if it means to overpay to get someone than we should do it. This chicken approach won't help us in the long run. I know for sure i'd rather spend 50m on Reus than stitch it yet again with another stop gap option like Pedro for 20m.Yes, yes i know we aren't even linked to him or someone like him and it looks impossible for some of them to move this summer but please money talks im sure if we make a good offer for any of Reus, Griezmann, Isco or even Gotze they would think twice about it. Reus doesn't appear to be on the market, Griezmann is currently not much better than Pedro overall, and Gotze would likely end up having the same issues with Mourinho that Mata had. Isco is the one player you've listed here who MIGHT both be available and be able to address the needs of our current team; I don't think that he would be played on the right if we were to get him, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 i am all for this transfer, dude.pedro is a good player. good finisher, brilliant movement, great workrate and a very good passer in closed spaces. 21mil pounds in a market where sterling went for 50mil is a bargain. moreover, he is a barca player. they are more experienced in breaking down defences than any one else in the world. he would be a very good signing. i am just doubtful about the transfer actually going through considering barca's situation.yeah i bet Barca are shitting themselves, as they obviously give Messi and Neymar rests all the time and they always subsitute them as well dont they. if you think Barca are the slightest bit worried about going into next season with Messi, Neymar and Suarez as the front 3 with Munir and Sandro as back up until January then you are delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 yeah i bet Barca are shitting themselves, as they obviously give Messi and Neymar rests all the time and they always subsitute them as well dont they. if you think Barca are the slightest bit worried about going into next season with Messi, Neymar and Suarez as the front 3 with Munir and Sandro as back up until January then you are delusional.is that the reason barca bought turan and vidal before the transfer ban? hmmm.. interesting. they definitely dont seem concerned about squad strength.. :lol:i mean barca players are made of steel and have never ever got injured before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 atleast i dont go about quoting people trying to prove them wrong and then getting embarassed. ps - still waiting for the messi stats. Oh the irony once again! you get embarrasssed on here everyday, stop lying to yourself.Amd as for Messi's stats, i simply worded it wrong i was talking about Oscar's first 6 years as a pro compared to Messi's first 6 years as a proOscar played 20,000+ Minutes (with no pre-season for 4 years)Messi played 15,000+ Minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 is that the reason barca bought turan and vidal before the transfer ban? hmmm.. interesting. they definitely dont seem concerned about squad strength.. :lol:i mean barca players are made of steel and have never ever got injured before.LOL i said until January, they clearly will not be worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Oh the irony once again! you get embarrasssed on here everyday, stop lying to yourself.Amd as for Messi's stats, i simply worded it wrong i was talking about Oscar's first 6 years as a pro compared to Messi's first 6 years as a proOscar played 20,000+ Minutes (with no pre-season for 4 years)Messi played 15,000+ Minutes hahahhahah... oh so after 10-15 to and fros, now you remember that you worded it wrong... hahahahha... what a way to get embarassed. trying to save face?yes, i totally got embarassed yesterday when i showed you the stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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