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This talk of DLP being paramount to our success is getting so tiresome.

The game has moved beyond the central midfielders, most teams play either 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2-2 (some cases 4-3-3) The point is in the Prem the need for a strength and ball winning ability is much more important than having a DLP. The reason is we look poor in attack has more to do with our collective movement than it does our pivot... Having said that if we put Ramires next to someone like Pogba we'd be a formidable side and our attacking players can focus solely on attacking(As evidenced by Hazard on the weekend). I firmly believe that the DLP role is becoming less prevalent and the modern CM has to be much more aware defensively than he does going forward, for that reason I would rather us grab another ball winner with mobility(clone Ramires) than get a Pirlo/Benat/Modric...

Everyone is screaming for a midfielder who can tackle and link the play from defense to attack from the pivot, that is a skill VERY FEW possess and what's more is its a job very few want to play.

If we add Falcao what he will do is provide us with a clinician in the final 3rd, a guy that scores goals when given few opportunities to do so. THAT'S what is missing, grabbing a CM who can pass and is forward thinking will not stop teams from defending deep against us, and unless this player is positionally aware and capable of a tackle it could hurt us.

We're seeing it now with Eto'o, he's not at the level of Falcao anymore but his movement and touch is providing our players with more room to exploit in the final third. The only thing Eto'o is lacking right now is power and pace(and a rub of the green).

Falcao has the ability to win matches with only a couple touches, that's what I'd like from my striker, the ability to impact a game without having to be involved immensely. Soldado is a perfect example of a frustrated striker who is being pulled out of position in order to have some sort of an impact on the game... its not working and his impatience is showing when you look at the areas he is getting touches and the few times that is happening in and around the box. You compare that to Falcao and you see a completely different chart. He may not get the same amount of touches but the ones he does get are without a doubt in and around the box where he can be most dangerous.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect most Chelsea fan's perspective on the matter but for me when you have an elite level striker leading the line the trickle down effect throughout the team is immense! Falcao is of that quality and that's why we're looking to add him(hopefully). A deep lying playmaker for my money is a luxury we don't need unless of course that player is well adept at winning the ball and strong in the defensive aspects of the game. Its more important to have a pivot who have positional awareness and strong instincts as to when to go forward than it is to have a guy who will link the defense to attack.

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I dont think that its about the money ... I believe the 3rd party ownership thing.

Agreed.

If you ask me Monaco, Mendes, Chelsea and Falcao had an end game in mind. Get Falcao out of the 3rd party ownership agreement and move to Chelsea when the next opportunity arrived. Everything that's transpired makes so much sense now.

- Falcao goes to Monaco who don't play in the Champions League and thusly won't cup tie Falcao in January

- Monaco were able to pay top dollar to get him out of the 3rd party deal. (no other team not in Champions League could afford to do it)

- Lukaku gets loaned to Everton for the year allowing him the full year to flourish as no.1 and not as a 3rd option. Next year he's no.2(with Falcao alleviating the pressure)

- Eto'o signs a one year deal. Will likely be moved on next summer...

All speculation but I always thought Falcao went to monaco to get decent return on his 3rd party ownership from and another Russian and friend of Roman's.... We'll see how it plays out.

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Agreed.

If you ask me Monaco, Mendes, Chelsea and Falcao had an end game in mind. Get Falcao out of the 3rd party ownership agreement and move to Chelsea when the next opportunity arrived. Everything that's transpired makes so much sense now.

- Falcao goes to Monaco who don't play in the Champions League and thusly won't cup tie Falcao in January

- Monaco were able to pay top dollar to get him out of the 3rd party deal. (no other team not in Champions League could afford to do it)

- Lukaku gets loaned to Everton for the year allowing him the full year to flourish as no.1 and not as a 3rd option. Next year he's no.2(with Falcao alleviating the pressure)

- Eto'o signs a one year deal. Will likely be moved on next summer...

All speculation but I always thought Falcao went to monaco to get decent return on his 3rd party ownership from and another Russian and friend of Roman's.... We'll see how it plays out.

Haha I wish you're right but I dont think so..

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can't agree enough. We need to be able to possess the ball and pin the opposition down in their own box area for a considerable amount of time to create these chances. Not only are we incapable of doing that but we have made not doing it our identity (some of us have even the audacity to rubbish such way of playing). In my opinion the problem has much to do with our build up play than the lack of certain quality in the squad. It is not just the pivot (although much of the blame should go to them) as it might clearly seem. I believe it is the combination of

  • the way the whole squad is positioned when Cech rolls the ball out to the defenders
  • the attacking midfielders not helping the back six in the build up
  • the tendency of our defenders not to pass to players in a 'tighter' holes b/n opposition lines
  • our inability to press the opposition, force mistakes and recycle possession (can't stress on this enough)

I believe JM is a clever guy and he understands these problems and more, he just need to grow some balls and take action

I absolutely agree with you and it baffles me how a team with the resources such as our is so utterly inept offensively, we have had access to some of the finest coaches, tacticians, players etc over the years and still continue to struggle offensively. Sometimes you wonder if we even practice any offensive drills in training. really frustrating.

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I absolutely agree with you and it baffles me how a team with the resources such as our is so utterly inept offensively, we have had access to some of the finest coaches, tacticians, players etc over the years and still continue to struggle offensively. Sometimes you wonder if we even practice any offensive drills in training. really frustrating.

Here is the difference. We've had 5 coaches in 3 yrs. When we have ONE dedicated philosophy for a number of years you will see a huge difference.

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80m??

Even Gareth Bale is not worth that much.

Torres+30m is a fair deal money wise but I'd personally stick with Torres and wait for Lukaku to return next season.

That 6 month loan deal is the perfect scenario and it could very well win us the Champions league.

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80m??

Even Gareth Bale is not worth that much.

Torres+30m is a fair deal money wise but I'd personally stick with Torres and wait for Lukaku to return next season.

That 6 month loan deal is the perfect scenario and it could very well win us the Champions league.

I believe if we get rid of Torres before the start of next season then Lukaku will have a great chance in succeeding here because Torres is one major roadblock to the Belgian's career at Chelsea.If Torres leaves then Lukaku will get the chance to fight with 1 world class striker for the sole striker role and will be regarded as second choice instead of third.

It'd be better for Lukaku and the club to have a strikeforce of- Falaco,Lukaku,some third choice striker-(eto'o)( Ba will definitely leave in the summer) than to have

Torres,Lukaku and some wold class striker.

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"Falcao has asked to leave the club on-loan after growing increasingly unhappy with his current contract, where he is earning just under €7m-a-year"

Oh my god ONLY 7m a year! Rescue this poor man. What an idiot! He signed the contract, stay in Monaco.

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Yep. Bale's unbelievably absurd transfer fee probably ruins any hope we have of signing away a world class player for "reasonable" money.

Clubs will look at their players like Falcao, Suarez etc and say "well if Gareth Bale went for that amount, our player is better so he should be more expensive." Similar to the Torres effect.

We have no shot of signing Falcao. That ship has sailed.

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Yep. Bale's unbelievably absurd transfer fee probably ruins any hope we have of signing away a world class player for "reasonable" money.

Clubs will look at their players like Falcao, Suarez etc and say "well if Gareth Bale went for that amount, our player is better so he should be more expensive." Similar to the Torres effect.

We have no shot of signing Falcao. That ship has sailed.

We can't really complain, we are part of those group of clubs that started it. PSG, Man City and Real Madrid are other members. The likes of Barcelona, Bayern just merely joining in because they don't have a choice. Now pretty much any world class player have a min value of £50m. Which is why Cavani actually now seem a bargain.

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Things that AREN'T going for us in this deal:

  • Real Madrid are our rivals in this deal
  • Claudio Ranieri and the vice-president claim that he is happy at Monaco
  • He's expensive as sh*t (January or in the summer)

Things going for us in this deal:

  • Falcao was promised £14 million/year but is only going to receive £7 million/year.... (Thats where the news of "Falcao is unsettled" stemmed from I believe)
  • Monaco are looking to offload him to comply with the UEFA financial Fair Play regulations
  • Mourinho and Falcao share an agent
  • Dmitry Rybolovlev (owner of Monaco) and Roman Abramovich are fellow Russian billionaires and they could smooth the way for a transfer
  • He's eligible to play in the Champions league for us (You would think he'd want to play at the very top level before he leads his team to the World Cup)
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