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do you know what FFP even is? owner's money is quite immaterial. we need to break even without roman's backpocket

Football clubs wishing to take part in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League must balance their football-related expenditure over a three-year period up to the 2014–15 season

Oh please. Dont you think we got people working to keep track of this? Do you honestly think that we do not have ways to cover our ass?

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Oh, I didn't know you were an accountant. Perhaps you work for UEFA as well and know it inside out? What...You don't? Oh...Well then please shut up and stop acting like you know FFP and how to run a football club...

FFP is pretty simple and it's all published online.

The problem is that no-one on here is privy to the club's accounts and plans going forward. I've mentioned it twice now but no-one seems to know exactly how much the Gazprom deal is worth (apologies if someone has posted it and I missed it). No-one knows what will happen with the contracts of certain players in the next year.

So people saying 'we don't have the money' simply don't know. What we do know is that the board have done a pretty good job in taking us from a loss-making enterprise to a company that more than breaks-even.

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How do you know we don't have it?

This club has been run rather well on the financial side in the last few years. How much was the Gazprom deal worth? Don't forget that in all likelihood Cole, Lamps and Malouda will drop off the payroll in the next 6 months.

Plus you've got to bear in mind that Falcao's goals might be what pushes us into the top four and secures Champions League money next year. At the moment we're playing matches with 10 (and a half if I'm being super nice) men.

I made a the comparison of our expected income and expenses a few pages back but I can't find it now. Bottom line is, taking into consideration everything, the most important factor being the departure from the CL, there is no way we can afford this unless that Gazprom deal is worth at least 40m/yr which is not possible because that's barely what we get from Samsung.

This club has been run rather well on the financial side in the last few years.

LOL seriously? :lol: We have a bunch of a few of the most overpaid athlete's in the world, that is not taking into account paying over the odds for almost every deal not the least of which was the 18m for Bosingwa and obviously the 50m flop.

Oh, I didn't know you were an accountant. Perhaps you work for UEFA as well and know it inside out? What...You don't? Oh...Well then please shut up and stop acting like you know FFP and how to run a football club...

So you must be an accountant who works for UEFA because you know that we can afford to buy Falcao, right?

I am as entitled to my opinion as much as you are. And have some respect to the person you are discussing, you're already one slip away from a ban.

EDIT: This was the post I was talking about:

A few logic gaps:

1) The transfer fee does not have to be uniformly divided on the length of his contract neither do we have to give him 5.5 years. But let's over look this point because both could be possible.

2) Josh and PVA are not adequate replacements for Lamps and Cole, at least not at the moment.

3) Our squad is very thin and we need reinforcement not just at ST but in several other areas.

4) Our expenses this year have been far more than last year. This year we bought the likes of Moses, Oscar, Hazard, Marin and Azpi who cost a whole lot more than last season's signings who, apart from Mata who cost 23m IIRC, were relatively cheap deals.

5) Last and most important, we got 47m for winning the CL last season but we'll only get 3.9m for making the group stages this season. And even if we win the EL we will only get 3m. That is 40m less than we made last season! There is no way that the deals we made can cover the this deficit, we'd be lucky to even be getting 15-20m a year from those deals. That is still a 20-25m less than our income last season unlike the article that assumed that we would have about the same income.

Sorry boys, but this is written in hope rather than logic.

Apologies. I did some research and it seems that you get 3.9m for getting into the group stages then 550k for each match, 800k for each win and 400 for each draw (all in euros) which would make our total income 11.8m euros or less than 9.6m pounds as opposed to last season's 47m pounds.

Still, I think my point stands and the sponsorship deals won't be able to make up the 37m difference.

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Oh, I didn't know you were an accountant. Perhaps you work for UEFA as well and know it inside out? What...You don't? Oh...Well then please shut up and stop acting like you know FFP and how to run a football club...

Choulo : "I am as entitled to my opinion as much as you are. And have some respect to the person you are discussing, you're already one slip away from a ban."

This forum seems to be losing it's humanity.

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Then do something to change that.

There's nothing to do.

Hopefully the increasing no. of fights, arguments and personal attacks are just a phase we as fans are going through as a result of what our club has gone through over the past few months.

Gotta give benefit of the doubt here..... and hope!

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There's nothing to do.

Hopefully the increasing no. of fights, arguments and personal attacks are just a phase we as fans are going through as a result of what our club has gone through over the past few months.

Gotta give benefit of the doubt here..... and hope!

There is always something to do. However insignificant it may seem at the time, is inconsequential to the future.

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I made a the comparison of our expected income and expenses a few pages back but I can't find it now. Bottom line is, taking into consideration everything, the most important factor being the departure from the CL, there is no way we can afford this unless that Gazprom deal is worth at least 40m/yr which is not possible because that's barely what we get from Samsung.

LOL seriously? :lol: We have a bunch of a few of the most overpaid athlete's in the world, that is

So you don't know what our Gazprom deal is worth then? Can we assume that you don't know what our other commercial deals are worth, besides the Samsung and Adidas ones? I'm starting to think that you might not have seen the books in quite some time.

But it's good that despite the complete lack of knowledge of our income you're prepared to say that there is 'no way we can afford this'. Most people would've simply said they don't know, but you've really put your cock on the block and come out with a definitive answer. Congratulations on having the confidence levels of a far more knowledgeable person.

Oh, and we've gone from making heavy losses to actually being in profit whilst amassing a rather impressive pool of young talent, improving our training facilities and also winning the biggest trophy in our club's history. So yeah, I do think they've done a good job.

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Some people are completely underestimating the difference a very top striker makes...
Arsenal last year is the perfect example. Absolutely CARRIED them to 3rd.

Our squad is infinitely better than that squad and Falcao is as good or better than RvP. I don't get why people think he'd flop here or not improve us greatly. He certainly would.

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I'm struggling to find who we'll sign if we don't get Falcao.

According to Dutch Telegraph, Emenalo has doubts about Bony.

Huntelaar is linked with Arsenal, and they're also rumours of him signing a new deal.

Llorente is heavily linked with a move to Juve.

Lewandowski the same but to Man utd - i don't know why they need him, but there's been "Lewy to Man utd" talk since the summer.

Remy is apparently on his way to Newcastle.

Falcao is like the only striker we're linked with.

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