🇨🇴 Radamel Falcao

[Las7 951]

What you say about Torres isn't false but that would be lying not to notice his contribution and will to adapt his play: being used for direct play (this season), play lay backs back to goal, create chances etc...

What I've noticed is that Torres does a lot of thing which most forward don't - he remains around the penalty spot when our players(attacking midfielders or full backs) get to a crossing position, expecting for someone to play the ball into his feet, or he remains behind a defender expecting the defender to miss the ball in order for him to be left with an easy opportunity. Normally a striker would be on the back of the defender on the near or far post trying to get into a position which would allow him to get a touch on the ball before the defender.

Other thing I've noticed is that Torres lacks behind other players when we are moving quickly towards the penalty box, he receives the ball plays it to someone else and remains outside of the box while our midfielders/defenders would often times find themselves in a position which should be taken by our CF.

He also drifts to the wing trying to escape the clutches of the central defenders guarding him but that leads to lack of options for through balls or leads to guys like Oscar; Ramires; Hazard and Mata having to play with their backs to the goal.

These are things which can be overlooked if they weren't happening in 90% of time, but over the last 2 years these are the reasons why he is not getting into goal scoring positions as often as he should be. If he was doing these things more often than not he would have been awarded goals like the one he had against Reading a lot more often. I'm not bemoaning his erratic first touch; the many touches he continues to take which lead to him being closed down; or his inability to beat defenders with speed and acceleration like he used to - I'm bemoaning simple things which enable even Strikers less Talented than Torres to end up outscoring him in less games.

I never doubted Falcao's abilities (maybe my keyboard did, I didn't saw it), I'm just trying to say that we cannot extrapolate everything from what he does at Atletico.

Falcao is a master of doing simple things right - finishing is a simple part of the game but very few players have the required mentality to do it at the rate Falcao does. He has a superior first touch to Torres and he is far more agile in areas where you need your striker to beat his marker and get a foot to the ball.

Signing a player isn't based on one single asset, even brilliant it is. Especially in big clubs where managers often wants a precise kind of player but if the ones available aren't suited for the whole game plan etc... they aren't signed

Berbatov was not signed on one particular asset, he was signed for a combination of qualities that we can all clearly see - those qualities never disappeared but Chica and Welbeck were preferred because they were able to adapt to Rooney far better than Berbatov. It's simply a question of whether you would ask a club to adapt to a player and whether there is enough profit in adapting to him instead of trying other more suitable options. Right now we have enough players to provide chances to a player like Falcao as proved by our last few games when things are starting to click - what we want is a striker who would have at the very least a 1 in 2 conversation rate when he is faced with a clear goal scoring opportunity. Now I personally think we have such players at our disposal but choose not to play them. It's obvious we won't start a lesser name ahead of Torres unless he is injured; suspended or tired, to a certain degree our managers are pressured into playing him due to his wage; transfer fee; big name status etc.

We made a huge gamble not signing another forward in the summer - thus far everything is working out great, Torres is finding some goal scoring form - we are winning points in the CL and EPL. But concerns still remain we cannot afford not to have someone to put away chances leading our line - what Torres provides as far as linking up with players around him is overrated because a lot of the time it's Torres escaping from responsibility laying it off to someone instead of doing what a striker would do naturally and that would be trying to score or at the very least when you lay it off to someone have the decency to continue your run into the box so you could be an option there - hell Lampard made himself the best goal scoring midfielder in the World just by doing that - ghosting into the box after he has laid it off to someone else.

[fAnta 107]

I can't believe people are arguing of this. @SeB you were talking about Steven fletcher what else does he bring apart from goals. your argument is hypocritical if you want fletcher how can you say no to falcao. this season he has got an assist aswell as 5 goals. last year torres got 12 assists and falcao got 5. Now look at the goals he scored as well. we buy a striker to freaking score. the players we have are made to feed a striker. I dont care but if torres scored the chances he had yesterday instead of you argument for working for team we would have won scored so many goals.

And falcao is more than a poacher he scores all his chances and has the killer instinct. look at the video on the first page. the quality of some of his goals are incredible.

[Spike 12,049]

Iam not 100% sure but 2009-2010 season, I think almost 60% of our goals were scored by Drogba and Lampard."I want a talented and balanced team" who doesn't man, just don't understand why do you think if we get Falcao we won't be balanced.In my opinion Falcao is pretty much the Torres we never had, and who we almost all wanted.

It was 49%. 21% from Lamps and 28% from Drogba. Still quite high, but not quite at levels of Porto and Atletico Madrid. On another note, Porto socred 63 times in the 10/11 season, Atletico scored 53 times in the 11/12 season and Chelsea scored 103 times in the 09/10 season.

[Las7 951]

I don't understand your point Spike, our squad is miles ahead of Madrid - they have been selling their best players and Falcao deal was financed from an investor group since all their player sales and even their Europa Prize money has been used to repay debts. They still owe money to Porto for the Falcao transfer. The biggest transfer outside of Falcao is Turan for 11 million - we sign teenagers for more money. Considering Falcao cost more than their entire team it's natural that a club facing the kind of hardship Madrid does is going to base their game around their best asset. Compare Atletico to some other club, like Liverpool for example - all their strikers sucked last season so their goals were from variation of players. This doesn't make better em better than Madrid in anyway.

[Spike 12,049]

I don't understand your point Spike, our squad is miles ahead of Madrid - they have been selling their best players and Falcao deal was financed from an investor group since all their player sales and even their Europa Prize money has been used to repay debts. They still owe money to Porto for the Falcao transfer. The biggest transfer outside of Falcao is Turan for 11 million - we sign teenagers for more money. Considering Falcao cost more than their entire team it's natural that a club facing the kind of hardship Madrid does is going to base their game around their best asset. Compare Atletico to some other club, like Liverpool for example - all their strikers sucked last season so their goals were from variation of players. This doesn't make better em better than Madrid in anyway.

I'm saying that Falcao is a one dimensional striker that needs the whole team to play for him. That is the point, he is the star man and they base their game around him. That is a part of his success, the extreme emphasis on him scoring. But let's say Falcao was a CB and he cost more than the whole team , would they still base their entire game around him?

If Falcao joined and scored half the goals he did at Porto and Atletico for £50 million, would he still be a success?

The Liverpool and Atletico comparison is pointless because I never once said that getting goals from a variation of players is superior, I said I preferred it.

[Tomo 21,751]

I can't believe Falcao will struggling here is even being discussed, whats the argument? we won't tell our wingers to pass to him every time they have the ball?

Hazard and Mata are assist machine's, Falcao will get chances and crucially (as we brutally found out) he will take them.

[Spike 12,049]

I can't believe Falcao will struggling here is even being discussed, whats the argument? we won't tell our wingers to pass to him every time they have the ball?

Hazard and Mata are assist machine's, Falcao will get chances and crucially (as we brutally found out) he will take them.

I don't think anyone said he would struggle. SeB, COULO19 and I are just trying to prove that he isn't the God Tier player a lot make him out to be. He is a fantastic player, but he is still just a goal poacher and I would prefer a trequartista-styled foward, if a new striker had to be signed.

[Las7 951]

I'm saying that Falcao is a one dimensional striker that needs the whole team to play for him. That is the point, he is the star man and they base their game around him. That is a part of his success, the extreme emphasis on him scoring. But let's say Falcao was a CB and he cost more than the whole team , would they still base their entire game around him?

I don't think you know what one dimensional striker means.

Having a side setup around a player doesn't make the player one dimensional - it makes the side one dimensional. If the player requires a particular type of service and cannot cope with anything else "hint people going on about Torres struggling due to no through balls being played into his feet or people saying Jan Koller was one dimensional due to needing crosses" that would make the striker one dimensional.

Usually if you hear a striker being one dimensional it's guys that score 50% of their goals with their head(or 50% of his goals from a particular type of service); the type of strikers that Stoke usually buys for example - they are mostly one dimensional because there is a certain way Stoke plays that requires a bulldozer up top with Crouchy being an exception to their usual targets.

[Reddish-Blue 2,505]

I don't think anyone said he would struggle. SeB, COULO19 and I are just trying to prove that he isn't the God Tier player a lot make him out to be. He is a fantastic player, but he is still just a goal poacher and I would prefer a trequartista-styled foward, if a new striker had to be signed.

We don't really need a trequartista styled forward, just a top striker that scores goals and looks confident.

I'm not saying that signing Falcao is our only option...but he'd be a much better first choice striker than Torres can ever hope to be at Chelsea.

[Funkyflashman 187]

I don't understand this to be perfectly honest. Falcao is one of the top 3 legitimately "available" (i.e not messi/ronaldo) strikers in the world. We need a striker. Therefore if he becomes available, for me, he is a must buy. He is a massive upgrade, no question.

[RamiCFC9 258]

Let's buy Fletcher he has better link up play. Ppl need to understand that Drogba is gone and with him our old style of play.I can bet my house that Falcao behind Mata, Oscar, Hazard will score even more then he is now, the guy is Inzaghi on steroids.

Watch this and DON'T EVER TELL ME FALCAO IS JUST A FOX IN THE BOX.

[Spike 12,049]

I don't think you know what one dimensional striker means.

Having a side setup around a player doesn't make the player one dimensional - it makes the side one dimensional. If the player requires a particular type of service and cannot cope with anything else "hint people going on about Torres struggling due to no through balls being played into his feet or people saying Jan Koller was one dimensional due to needing crosses" that would make the striker one dimensional.

Usually if you hear a striker being one dimensional it's guys that score 50% of their goals with their head(or 50% of his goals from a particular type of service); the type of strikers that Stoke usually buys for example - they are mostly one dimensional because there is a certain way Stoke plays that requires a bulldozer up top with Crouchy being an exception to their usual targets.

I don't think you understand what one dimensional means. He is one dimesional because nearly all of his goals come from either penalites of from inside the box. But that is not all, what else does Falcao provide except goals? He isn't a hard worker, he doesn't win many duels or dirbble that well, he doesn't shoot from distance, he doesn't take free kicks, he doesn't cross the ball, he doesn't pass all that well, he can't take corners, he isn't overly fast, he can't play out wide or in the hole, so please tell me what is so spectacular about Falcao besides his ability to find that net?

Being a brilliant finisher is all well and good, but I want more than that. I want somebody like Del Piero or Franceso Totti. I won't complain about signing Falcao, but I think there is just a better fitting player out there. A lot of people just seem to be in a circle jerk about Falcao, and I think it's pretty naive to think that Falcao will just waltz right in score 30+ goals and win every trophy under the sun. There is more to football than just putting it in the back of the net.

Just because they can finish does not make them a good footballer, look at Mario Jardel...I'm not saying that Falcao will end up like him, just htink about it.

[jmarlow 458]

I can't believe people are arguing of this. @SeB you were talking about Steven fletcher what else does he bring apart from goals. your argument is hypocritical if you want fletcher how can you say no to falcao. this season he has got an assist aswell as 5 goals. last year torres got 12 assists and falcao got 5. Now look at the goals he scored as well. we buy a striker to freaking score. the players we have are made to feed a striker. I dont care but if torres scored the chances he had yesterday instead of you argument for working for team we would have won scored so many goals.

And falcao is more than a poacher he scores all his chances and has the killer instinct. look at the video on the first page. the quality of some of his goals are incredible.

This.

I cant believe how long this stupid argument against Falcao is going on for it makes no sense at all! first everyone says about Torres that we bought him to score goals and not to make them, so when we are linked with a player who scores goals for fun people say we shouldn't sign him because he doesn't create chances! :fainthv9:

I give up!

[laeth 527]

If we want to sign a pure finisher; Higuain would do the job for a fraction of the price I imagine.

[Hallihallo 2]

I would absolutely love to see him in the blue jersey. He´s a natural born goalscorer - His positioning i just amazing.

Everytime he gets the opportunity, he scores. The best finisher in the world!

BUT - I really like Torres, and he has some qualities that Falcao doesn´t have. Also Torres is looking a bit like himself again and it would be hard to let him go, which would be the result if we were to buy Falcao.

Still i can´t help thinking that we would have the best offense in the world if we bought him.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I can't believe people are arguing of this. @SeB you were talking about Steven fletcher what else does he bring apart from goals. your argument is hypocritical if you want fletcher how can you say no to falcao. this season he has got an assist aswell as 5 goals. last year torres got 12 assists and falcao got 5. Now look at the goals he scored as well. we buy a striker to freaking score. the players we have are made to feed a striker. I dont care but if torres scored the chances he had yesterday instead of you argument for working for team we would have won scored so many goals.

And falcao is more than a poacher he scores all his chances and has the killer instinct. look at the video on the first page. the quality of some of his goals are incredible.

First, regarding Fletcher: He brings much more to a side than just goals. He is a striker who can play as a target man and win first headers, or play on the quick counter attacks as he did in a few Sunderland this season. He is an excellent finisher, but he can also set up other players. He can drop off and get involved in the build up, and his link up play is excellent.

Second, regarding your view on strikers: It simply doesn't work in the PL. Although it is a vital role of the striker, he can't just score goals. he needs to assist, to make spaces for other players, to drop off and get involved in the passing when the opposition stack the box, and most of all he needs to defend. Each team has a defensive system that involves all 11 players on the field and breaks down if one of them does not do his job. The striker needs to press the center-halves, cover for his wingers if needed, and defend set pieces. For example, how many goals from set pieces did we concede last season or the one before when Drogba was in the team? Very, very few. And the reason is that DD is always the man that attacks the ball when defending which leaves our CBs to mark their men comfortably. It's something that does not show up in stats, but is vital for the team.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Falcao is A God Tier player. Don't know what else he has to do to prove it...

[jmarlow 458]

First, regarding Fletcher: He brings much more to a side than just goals. He is a striker who can play as a target man and win first headers, or play on the quick counter attacks as he did in a few Sunderland this season. He is an excellent finisher, but he can also set up other players. He can drop off and get involved in the build up, and his link up play is excellent.

Second, regarding your view on strikers: It simply doesn't work in the PL. Although it is a vital role of the striker, he can't just score goals. he needs to assist, to make spaces for other players, to drop off and get involved in the passing when the opposition stack the box, and most of all he needs to defend. Each team has a defensive system that involves all 11 players on the field and breaks down if one of them does not do his job. The striker needs to press the center-halves, cover for his wingers if needed, and defend set pieces. For example, how many goals from set pieces did we concede last season or the one before when Drogba was in the team? Very, very few. And the reason is that DD is always the man that attacks the ball when defending which leaves our CBs to mark their men comfortably. It's something that does not show up in stats, but is vital for the team.

one question, how often have you seen Falcao play?

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

I could quit Madrid: Chelsea on alert as hotshot Falcao admits his future's uncertain

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2212635/Chelsea-alert-Radamel-Falcao-admits-futures-uncertain.html

[CHOULO19 24,332]

one question, how often have you seen Falcao play?

More than half of his matches last season. How about you try to argue with logic and facts instead of discrediting my opinion?