🇨🇴 Radamel Falcao

[chrismada9 1,948]

see, i dont see the problem with this transfer.

even if falcao fails, its just an year. he is not blocking the path to either bamford/solanke in the near future. he does give us the depth required. plus i feel, he will get his form back.

I understand your point as far as Solanke is concerned. Bamford on the other hand, is playing like he deserves a big chance sooner rather than later. He didn't win Championship Player of the Year for nothing.

If push comes to shove, maybe Bamford will get another loan deal to one of the Premier League clubs, but I'm just as excited to see this guy play as much as I did when Lukaku joined, but he got pushed around the team, and ended up at West Brom and Everton in loan deals, which later became permament.

Now I don't want the same happening to Bamford, which is why I see Falcao being loaned to us as the better option (better yet, not at all). If it was a permanent deal, we would instantly have to say goodbye to Bamford because he'll never get games!

[Unionjack 7,531]

A agree with points all of us are saying but no matter what we say it looks like Falcao is coming. As for him taking over Drogs spot what was his spot? He was picked alot more than Remy unfortunately. I liked Remy, and I was completely wrong for wanting Bony coming instead. But I dont what we are arguing about as far as he goes as its looking like hes not going to be with us. So 2nd striker,3rd striker it doesnt matter. He was a good alternative striker but he wasnt a good RAM was he.

But its leaving us in trouble. I dont think the problem was WE didnt trust Remy I think its more Jose doesnt. And we know that means hes got a taxi waiting.

So IF Falcao passes his physical after the Copa we will more than likely get him. It doesnt make any difference whether hes 2nd or 3rd striker all we want him to do is a decent job when hes playing. We dont have hindsight so wont know how it plays out for awhile.

The thing that I dont understand is why we havent gone for another top striker.

I hear you say - because we are a 1 striker system another top striker will want to play regular. But if I was one I'd look at our last season and fancy my chances (if I didnt have any ongoing injuries) to fight for 1st pick over Costa. I know we got a 1 striker system but we need one thats going to be trusted to take control of a game, to play in Europe against the big boys and we wouldnt worry whether Costa or the new guy was picked. The only position I could honestly say I didnt care which one played last season was the keeper. For every other position we dont really have a top class option.

Other clubs seem to manage having top multiple strikers that fight and push each other to claim the starting place. We should be doing all we can to sign another Costa like player not be looking at hasbeens and wannabes.

[quickpassnmove 924]

130,000/week for Falcao (who MIGHT improve after his recent injury, 2014) while getting rid of J. Mikel Obi @ 120,000/week sounds like some good business but we might as well be looking at an additional striker in the transfer market assuming Bamford is going on-loan and Remy could be exiting.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

These last 10 pages, My eyes!

[The Skipper 20,609]

the point is that if we dont buy a 3rd striker, remy gets to start 20-25 games of a 60 game season. 700 minutes for 7 goals is an awesome return which CAN NOT be extrapolated in the simialr way when talking about 2000 minutes that remy would definitely get if we had no other option.

also, i would like to know who people think should be our 3rd striker? a youth player?bamford/solanke? so they are better than falcoa now?

Why shouldn't we extrapolate from that exactly? And why does it matter so much? So what if Remy wouldn't be able to score 20 goals in 2000 minutes? You and I both know if Loic had that many minutes he'd quite possibly reach 15 goals, which is still a fantastic return for a 2nd choice striker. Falcao played twice as much and only managed 4 goals at United. Your argument is very weak and is based on the premises that Falcao rediscovers his Atletico form and that he's proven to be a great 2nd choice striker (both of which are false).

Falcao has never been 2nd choice before last season and he just did not deliver. How you diminish Loic's return in order to aid your argument is nothing short of stupendous considering that Loic scored many vital goals for us last season to win the title.

You're living in the past. Falcao isn't the Falcao of old and he hasn't proved that he'd be a better 2nd choice than Remy at all. You're being very disrespectful to what Loic achieved here despite his very limited minutes.

All I'm hoping is that his loan doesn't push Remy out because that would be disastrous. We'd lose a versatile, more clinical and better player in the hope that a former superstar regains his form (sound familiar?). Give me Remy over Falcao any day.

[The Skipper 20,609]

130,000/week for Falcao (who MIGHT improve after his recent injury, 2014) while getting rid of J. Mikel Obi @ 120,000/week sounds like some good business but we might as well be looking at an additional striker in the transfer market assuming Bamford is going on-loan and Remy could be exiting.

Mikel is actually on £70-£80k.

Why does almost every single post of yours come back to Mikel? Some unhealthy obsession you have with him.

[lucio 5,418]

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/20403-where-do-you-stand-on-falcao/

I made a poll for him.

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Fulcuo?!!!

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I have read the last few pages, and I thought most of it showing more concerned of Remy. If Falcao come, Remy will this, Remy will that.

Jose said Drogba leave, so that we will sign another striker as his replacement. It's seems happened it will be Falcao now. I bet if Jose not interested in Falcao, Jose will find another experienced striker, maybe in Ibra, or someone else. And it never will be Bamford or young strikers at the moment, unfortunately, because you guys should have known it better, no? Jose will aim on CL title as the main target next season, and try to defend the PL also, of course.

So, no matter what happened Jose will need 3 strikers. Falcao come to replace Drogba next season. If Remy choose to leave for whatever reason, then obviously we will buy someone else as his replacement. Someone on the same level with Remy. That is another case, and I don't think it is because of Falcao we're gonna sign imo.

[The Skipper 20,609]

So, no matter what happened Jose will need 3 strikers. Falcao come to replace Drogba next season. If Remy choose to leave for whatever reason, then obviously we will buy someone else as his replacement. Someone on the same level with Remy. That is another case, and I don't think it is because of Falcao we're gonna sign imo.

We're not going to find someone on the level of Remy as our 3rd choice striker. Even as a 2nd choice striker, it'll be hard to find someone who truly gives you as much value for your money as Remy does.

To me it's increasingly looking like he's doing his old buddy Jorge Mendes a favour.

[didierforever 7,349]

Why shouldn't we extrapolate from that exactly? And why does it matter so much? So what if Remy wouldn't be able to score 20 goals in 2000 minutes? You and I both know if Loic had that many minutes he'd quite possibly reach 15 goals, which is still a fantastic return for a 2nd choice striker. Falcao played twice as much and only managed 4 goals at United. Your argument is very weak and is based on the premises that Falcao rediscovers his Atletico form and that he's proven to be a great 2nd choice striker (both of which are false).

Falcao has never been 2nd choice before last season and he just did not deliver. How you diminish Loic's return in order to aid your argument is nothing short of stupendous considering that Loic scored many vital goals for us last season to win the title.

You're living in the past. Falcao isn't the Falcao of old and he hasn't proved that he'd be a better 2nd choice than Remy at all. You're being very disrespectful to what Loic achieved here despite his very limited minutes.

All I'm hoping is that his loan doesn't push Remy out because that would be disastrous. We'd lose a versatile, more clinical and better player in the hope that a former superstar regains his form (sound familiar?). Give me Remy over Falcao any day.

both of which are false? so you can guarantee me that no matter what falcao cant be a good 2nd striker or hit good form? well, we will definitely come back to that.

so we can extrapolate? great, then fuck costa and lets make remy our no.1 striker cos he has the better return.

where have i dimished remy's return? where have i said that remy should not be here. why are you trying to put words into my mouth. read what i wrote to choulo or to stats. remy is a MUST for next season, as a 2nd/3rd striker and RW/LW. again, being disrespectful to remy, what exactly are you reading? is it the fact that remy is no better than a 2nd striker or good enough for squad rotation, is thats whats making you hallucinate and put words into other people's mouths?

lololol, another torres comparision.. cos life just is so straight forward. not even going to bother anymore.

[didierforever 7,349]

I understand your point as far as Solanke is concerned. Bamford on the other hand, is playing like he deserves a big chance sooner rather than later. He didn't win Championship Player of the Year for nothing.

If push comes to shove, maybe Bamford will get another loan deal to one of the Premier League clubs, but I'm just as excited to see this guy play as much as I did when Lukaku joined, but he got pushed around the team, and ended up at West Brom and Everton in loan deals, which later became permament.

Now I don't want the same happening to Bamford, which is why I see Falcao being loaned to us as the better option (better yet, not at all). If it was a permanent deal, we would instantly have to say goodbye to Bamford because he'll never get games!

bamford is 21, he will be 22 next season, and barely begining his career. lukaku was an idiot who shot himself in the foot. now he can rot in everton's mediocrity. i myself wanted bamford to be a part of the squad but realistically, if costa got injured towards the end of the season, would you be completely satisfied and happy having remy start and only bamford on the bench in a CL semi. i honestly would be shit scared.

bamford still has a long way to go and i hope he gets a good PL loan spell. this is nothing but an year long loan which is way better than buying some one for 25+ million and blocking bamford's path in the long run.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

We're not going to find someone on the level of Remy as our 3rd choice striker. Even as a 2nd choice striker, it'll be hard to find someone who truly gives you as much value for your money as Remy does.

To me it's increasingly looking like he's doing his old buddy Jorge Mendes a favour.

Yes, it maybe hard to find, but not impossible. From the money we should get from selling Remy should be enough to buy another good one. Or maybe add the sum and buy someone like Griezmann to do 'Schurrle', as a winger but could be useful as a striker.

[Barbara 15,149]

We're not going to find someone on the level of Remy as our 3rd choice striker. Even as a 2nd choice striker, it'll be hard to find someone who truly gives you as much value for your money as Remy does.

To me it's increasingly looking like he's doing his old buddy Jorge Mendes a favour.

except he doesn't have the power to do that all by himself. He left it clear during the last window and at the end of the previous season (13/14) that he doesn't get to decide who comes. He gives them names and it's up to them to agree.

Also, how come is it a favor? What is Jorge Mendes getting out of it? Falcao has a contract with Monaco, that won't change. We'll pay some fee for the loan agreement - that is rumored to be around 7m - which is exchange for someone like Mendes. Do I find this transfer the most random and nonsense thing ever? Absolutely. I'm 110% against it, but I think it's a bit too conspiratorial to say José is manipulating our board - as if they weren't capable of making decisions themselves. They could always veto any name Mourinho suggests for whatever reason. Maybe José convinced them, but I'm not sure what Mendes wins with it - another flop season in English football is worse than an average season at good for nothing Ligue 1. In terms of exposition, if he has a better season than last, it works favorably for him, and it's easier to have a better season at France than England.

We shouldn't get him, I hope Remy doesn't leave regardless of this situation, but I'm not sure if José has got all that power in this situation. I don't think that's how things have been working in the club lately.

[The Skipper 20,609]

except he doesn't have the power to do that all by himself. He left it clear during the last window and at the end of the previous season (13/14) that he doesn't get to decide who comes. He gives them names and it's up to them to agree.

Also, how come is it a favor? What is Jorge Mendes getting out of it? Falcao has a contract with Monaco, that won't change. We'll pay some fee for the loan agreement - that is rumored to be around 7m - which is exchange for someone like Mendes. Do I find this transfer the most random and nonsense thing ever? Absolutely. I'm 110% against it, but I think it's a bit too conspiratorial to say José is manipulating our board - as if they weren't capable of making decisions themselves. They could always veto any name Mourinho suggests for whatever reason. Maybe José convinced them, but I'm not sure what Mendes wins with it - another flop season in English football is worse than an average season at good for nothing Ligue 1. In terms of exposition, if he has a better season than last, it works favorably for him, and it's easier to have a better season at France than England.

We shouldn't get him, I hope Remy doesn't leave regardless of this situation, but I'm not sure if José has got all that power in this situation. I don't think that's how things have been working in the club lately.

You bring up a lot of very valid points that I agree with entirely but honestly, like DYC said, I wouldn't be surprised if Mou is doing this as a favour for Jorge Mendes - and maybe in return Jorge will sort us out with one of his top clients in the near future. One can only hope that's the case.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Mikel is actually on £70-£80k.

Why does almost every single post of yours come back to Mikel? Some unhealthy obsession you have with him.

I've wanted him out of the club for maybe 4-5 or 6 years and he's the last one remaining of Torres, Luiz, Mikel -the players definitely worth dumping from the squad in recent years, two of whom I disliked with a passion: Mikel and Torres. More than only this, those players have been symbols for what Chelsea have done wrong in recent years. Mikel leaving is the lungs exhaling the final foul dirt of the past.

I'm not sure your number is correct on his salary although some sites confirm that. In any case, he's a waste of money, period. Time to move on to players with better quality or potential.

[Tomo 21,751]

Why shouldn't we extrapolate from that exactly? And why does it matter so much? So what if Remy wouldn't be able to score 20 goals in 2000 minutes? You and I both know if Loic had that many minutes he'd quite possibly reach 15 goals, which is still a fantastic return for a 2nd choice striker. Falcao played twice as much and only managed 4 goals at United. Your argument is very weak and is based on the premises that Falcao rediscovers his Atletico form and that he's proven to be a great 2nd choice striker (both of which are false).

Falcao has never been 2nd choice before last season and he just did not deliver. How you diminish Loic's return in order to aid your argument is nothing short of stupendous considering that Loic scored many vital goals for us last season to win the title.

You're living in the past. Falcao isn't the Falcao of old and he hasn't proved that he'd be a better 2nd choice than Remy at all. You're being very disrespectful to what Loic achieved here despite his very limited minutes.

All I'm hoping is that his loan doesn't push Remy out because that would be disastrous. We'd lose a versatile, more clinical and better player in the hope that a former superstar regains his form (sound familiar?). Give me Remy over Falcao any day.

I think Mourinho wants to go into next season with all 3.

I have a hunch that Falcao is coming because Remy and Costa together at the same time didn't work really and Costa/Falcao have previous.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I think Mourinho wants to go into next season with all 3.

I have a hunch that Falcao is coming because Remy and Costa together at the same time didn't work really and Costa/Falcao have previous.

I don't like this argument because Remy and Costa was not tried thoroughly enough at all. How many minutes did they actually have playing together?

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[termninja 5,290]

I must say I haven't felt such a negativity towards the transfer (loan) since we signed Benayoun xD

Can't escape the feeling that such negativity is not caused by Falcao himself, but from the fact that we still haven't signed anyone and that some fans are disappointed a lot regarding potential Remy departure. I feel that the right moment to judge this deal is at the end of the season, not now. I would not like for Remy to leave for anything less then 20mil, would be very difficult to find a replacement.