Azul 1,615 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Doubt it. Most teams, if not all, play with 3 in midfield and if we don't have enough of the ball in that area, we won't create enough goalscoring chances to actually score.How did City manage to score so many goals in the 13-14 season then? Don't underestimate the 4-4-2 formation. We have Nemanja and Cesc in midfield, these 2 have played together everytime last season. It's not like Ramires offered a lot in defense last season. He was horrible when we played the 4-3-3, Cesc didn't play too good either. Oscar offers no creativity whatsoever, Cuadrado does not look like Chelsea quality. You overestimate midtable clubs and underestimate what 2 strikers of worldclass level can do upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I checked "sources" from Columbia with translator and they really are writing all those things that are currently on Twitter. So it seems that this deal genuine happens.Right. If Mou says it's good then I'm good. One only caveat is that he maybe does favour to his old pal Jorge Mendes like he has done several times before. That just little problem I have with this. Apart from that I'm perfectly fine.Oh and BTW maybe I missed this but I haven't seen any 25m£ involved in this. If it happens, it will be loan with small fee to Monaco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Doubt it. Most teams, if not all, play with 3 in midfield and if we don't have enough of the ball in that area, we won't create enough goalscoring chances to actually score.Against most mid table sides i think we can control the ball with Matic, Cesc, Willian/Oscar and Hazard.Tbh im not sure that Griezmann, if he comes, would participate in creating possession like the other midfielders, he would probably only take little touches. Maybe (im just pondering here) Mourinho sees the need in more firepower but dont think this player got to be a ball playing midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I've read things like this before. Why would this matter if I may ask? Because Falcao would score 25+ goals here with Costa here? Unless you're suggesting Falcao would displace Costa in the starting line-up.And why are you ruling out that possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Remy has done almost everything asked of him this season. Hes scored some good goals not only a goal sneak. Before he came to us I would have much prefered Bony but now Im really happy he came.I just dont think that he's got Mous trust. Theres been many times he could have played but Drogs was selected instead. As a 3rd striker I dont think we could ask for more but he would never push for top spot I dont think. What we need is someone that will and Falcao just isnt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 How did City manage to score so many goals in the 13-14 season then? Don't underestimate the 4-4-2 formation. We have Nemanja and Cesc in midfield, these 2 have played together everytime last season. It's not like Ramires offered a lot in defense last season. He was horrible when we played the 4-3-3, Cesc didn't play too good either. Oscar offers no creativity whatsoever, Cuadrado does not look like Chelsea quality. You overestimate midtable clubs and underestimate what 2 strikers of worldclass level can do upfront.City may have streamrolled the lesser teams but they have also come unstuck because of the 4-4-2. On the top of that, look where the system has gotten him to in the bigger scheme of things.We have Matic and Fabregas in midfield but the latter is not the best when it comes to defensive duties and we have been exposed on several occasions because of that, even with 3 in midfield in our 4-2-3-1 system. Playing just those 2 in midfield is likely to make it worse (excluding desperate situations).If you're going to say I overestimate mid-table clubs, then I could easily say you're underestimating them. I'm only highlighting the fact that there is quality in majority of the Premier League teams and if you take them lightly, you'll pay the price.Having 2 world class strikers upfront is one thing but it's another to actually make it work. Besides, I wouldn't put Falcao in the world class category in his current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You think this one's legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Those pictures are not even funny anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 How is Falcao an upgrade over Remy? Falcao is a goal poacher but outside of that, he offers very little in buildup plays and that is something you can't say about Remy. He scores goals and links up with others in creating goals. It's almost criminal how Remy is underrated by some here.I've got nothing against Remy but he is not even half the striker that Falcao is. Last time I checked, we do have an array of attacking mids with lots of variety. What we do need is a striker that can push Costa to his best and I think someone like Falcao is our best option. We don't want Remy to provide the outlet when we have better players doing that job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You think this one's legit? Wow, Jose let himself go in Sydney .. became a weeabo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Everyone says this will be 'another Torres'. Now this couldn't be any worse than Torres signing, because we're all already expecting for the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 lol Remy "not even half the striker that is Falcao" ... come off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I've got nothing against Remy but he is not even half the striker that Falcao is. Last time I checked, we do have an array of attacking mids with lots of variety. What we do need is a striker that can push Costa to his best and I think someone like Falcao is our best option. We don't want Remy to provide the outlet when we have better players doing that job.Not saying we should have Remy to provide the outlet but it's important to have strikers who are not one-dimensional like Falcao for instance. Offers more option and variation in buildup plays. People are underestimating that in the attacking third. Besides, given Falcao's form in recent years, what makes you think he'll even be a success here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Journalists asked Mourinho about the Costa, Griezmann rumours but nothing on Falcao. Amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 City may have streamrolled the lesser teams but they have also come unstuck because of the 4-4-2. On the top of that, look where the system has gotten him to in the bigger scheme of things.We have Matic and Fabregas in midfield but the latter is not the best when it comes to defensive duties and we have been exposed on several occasions because of that, even with 3 in midfield in our 4-2-3-1 system. Playing just those 2 in midfield is likely to make it worse (excluding desperate situations).If you're going to say I overestimate mid-table clubs, then I could easily say you're underestimating them. I'm only highlighting the fact that there is quality in majority of the Premier League teams and if you take them lightly, you'll pay the price.Having 2 world class strikers upfront is one thing but it's another to actually make it work. Besides, I wouldn't put Falcao in the world class category in his current state.First of we already concede goals even if we play with 3 midfielders, having 2 strikers can assure us the first goal which is vital. It's true that City have problems because of the 4-4-2, why? it's because they do not adapt. They keep using the same formation over and over again. Even when they play against us or against any other top 4 and that's their mistake. I suggested the 4-4-2 only for when we face midtable clubs and that's the difference. As for our defensive duties it has been our downfall for so many games this season. We failed against PSG, Spurs, Newcastle etc because we lacked in offense and also because we relied too much on our defense. If you want you can look back at our game vs Newcastle for example we backed off too many times and that's why we conceded 2 goals. The reason why we usually play better in the 2nd half is because we play offensively. That's also why we usually concede the first goal and then we get motivated to win the game or we draw.4-4-2 provides us with pure attacking force but also with balance against the lesser sides. Look at how Fergie has done with that formation or Arrigo Sacchi. Falcao is not worldclass atm and thats not what I meant but I said that when he's inform he truly is worldclass. We also have already won the PL so we don't have the pressure we had last season so this tactic could prove to be great imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not saying we should have Remy to provide the outlet but it's important to have strikers who are not one-dimensional like Falcao for instance. Offers more option and variation in buildup plays. People are underestimating that in the attacking third. Besides, given Falcao's form in recent years, what makes you think he'll even be a success here?Last season for Falcao was a one off. He didn't start well and throughout the season he looked like someone playing with no confidence at all. Pretty sure Mourinho can instill that confidence in him. Worth a gamble if he is willing to come on loan on reduced wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Last season for Falcao was a one off. He didn't start well and throughout the season he looked like someone playing with no confidence at all. Pretty sure Mourinho can instill that confidence in him.Every such argument gives me terrible Torres flashbacks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You think this one's legit? Oh god that's by far the worst I've ever seen - Amusing af though!--On a side note, Remy is criminally underrated on this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You think this one's legit? Wow! That's more legit than the Griezmann picture.. and that's saying something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,915 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Imagine telling the Talk Chelsea of a couple of years ago that we'd be signing Falcao and were desperate to avoid him. I'm willing to be open minded and back him because I always get a bit giddy when we sign a striker. He gets 10-15 PL goals somehow and looks more like the dangerous predator that he was I'd consider it a successful season for him. He won't get back to the heights that he once did but he may become a very solid player under José and with the service of our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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