Closed Man City 3-0 Chelsea

[iseah100 5,612]

http://www.squawka.com/news/talking-tactics-4-key-reasons-behind-man-citys-3-0-victory-over-chelsea/441791

You guys agree?

[Unionjack 7,531]

No, glad I swerved that one. Hope the trip back wasnt too D and G.

Could you tell Rambo was off when you were there ? -looked tight as a nuns snatch on TV and they said he was onside. Atkinson was swayed a lot by the Citeh crowd by the looks of things.

No to be honest I couldnt see if it was or not but its a case of us vs them mentality at Citeh and youve got to fught for everything we can get..

Difficult getting to grips with new rules.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9940965/rule-changes-in-the-premier-league-what-is-new-this-season

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

He looked in line with Sagna's foot in that image. It was a marginal decision and when face with a 50-50 scenario, the linesman should really give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team.

Ya when you look at it in freeze frame you can yell at the official all day long.

[Jase 43,479]

Ya when you look at it in freeze frame you can yell at the official all day long.

Sarcasm much?

The only reason I can think why the linesman raised the offside flag was because he couldn't see Sagna clearly on the far side with one of our players nearby him.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Its exactly for incidents like this we need to bring in an off pitch ref using video playback technolgy. In this day and age its fuckin ridiculous not to take advantage of anything that can help the game.

[Miguelito 459]

Sarcasm much?

The only reason I can think why the linesman raised the offside flag was because he couldn't see Sagna clearly on the far side with one of our players nearby him.

Am I the only one that thought he was offside? I only saw the replay once where they froze it and drew the line and I thought it showed him being off. Yes, on the replay, the line made him look right in line with the defender, but his head was much further forward than his feet and the line showed where his feet were.

It is not just feet that count. It is any body part that can be used to play the ball. So your arms don't count but your head and torso do.

Like you said earlier, the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker if they are perfectly even, but in the end, I unfortunately think he made the right call.

[Jase 43,479]

Am I the only one that thought he was offside? I only saw the replay once where they froze it and drew the line and I thought it showed him being off. Yes, on the replay, the line made him look right in line with the defender, but his head was much further forward than his feet and the line showed where his feet were.

It is not just feet that count. It is any body part that can be used to play the ball. So your arms don't count but your head and torso do.

Like you said earlier, the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker if they are perfectly even, but in the end, I unfortunately think he made the right call.

It was a tight decision, marginal at best. Ramires' head or body wasn't exactly sticking out into a clear offside position. Linesman should have just given us the advantage.

[Miguelito 459]

It was a tight decision, marginal at best. Ramires' head or body wasn't exactly sticking out into a clear offside position. Linesman should have just given us the advantage.

Yea I agree with what you mean but at the end of the day, I can't complain about it because as close as it was, it ended up being the right call I thought.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Its exactly for incidents like this we need to bring in an off pitch ref using video playback technolgy. In this day and age its fuckin ridiculous not to take advantage of anything that can help the game.

That one is difficult for the playback technology.

The defenders will say we stopped after the flag was raised and they scored in dead time.

[Unionjack 7,531]

That one is difficult for the playback technology.

The defenders will say we stopped after the flag was raised and they scored in dead time.

But the off pitch ref has all the evidence in front of him and his decision must be final. Nobody can argue with video evidence.

Just imagine how match results might have been different if it had always been availabl. Even goal line technology.

[Muzchap 8,966]

http://www.squawka.com/news/talking-tactics-4-key-reasons-behind-man-citys-3-0-victory-over-chelsea/441791

You guys agree?

Unfortunately - yes

[cosmicway 1,333]

But the off pitch ref has all the evidence in front of him and his decision must be final. Nobody can argue with video evidence.

Just imagine how match results might have been different if it had always been availabl. Even goal line technology.

They already do it in water polo, don't they.

It can be done. One needs to carefully define a hierarchy in the decision making process - not an impossible task.

Thus for instance the video ref can readily change a throw in decision if given to the wrong side.

In the case of offside decisions I 'm afraid it has to be the linesman on the ground who decides. How can you tell the players, you go back and stand there, you take the ball and run again ?

[Unionjack 7,531]

They already do it in water polo, don't they.

It can be done. One needs to carefully define a hierarchy in the decision making process - not an impossible task.

Thus for instance the video ref can readily change a throw in decision if given to the wrong side.

In the case of offside decisions I 'm afraid it has to be the linesman on the ground who decides. How can you tell the players, you go back and stand there, you take the ball and run again ?

Dont get ya? If theres an important offside decision the linesmans missed or some side thinks hes blown incorrectly the ref on pitch is on his mike to the vid ref who in a couple of seconds gives a decision. No waiting around wasting time etc. Cant see a problem

[MefiX19 1,092]

Dont get ya? If theres an important offside decision the linesmans missed or some side thinks hes blown incorrectly the ref on pitch is on his mike to the vid ref who in a couple of seconds gives a decision. No waiting around wasting time etc. Cant see a problem

Send that to FA

[Unionjack 7,531]

Send that to FA

Ill ask Roman to look into it next time he pops round.

[kmk108 1,186]

Dont get ya? If theres an important offside decision the linesmans missed or some side thinks hes blown incorrectly the ref on pitch is on his mike to the vid ref who in a couple of seconds gives a decision. No waiting around wasting time etc. Cant see a problem

I think what's being said is when the linesman raises his flag, the defenders and keepers stop defending, allowing the attacker to have a better shot than if the defense was still going at them. What happens if the call is changed? Do you allow the goal and penalize the defense for seeing the linesman and not playing through the flag or do you give a free kick, allowing the defense to set up for a set-piece?

[cosmicway 1,333]

Dont get ya? If theres an important offside decision the linesmans missed or some side thinks hes blown incorrectly the ref on pitch is on his mike to the vid ref who in a couple of seconds gives a decision. No waiting around wasting time etc. Cant see a problem

Ha !

It depends on speed of reaction.

I mean even now we see goals disallowed as offsides and then on second thought count.

Look, when it is dead time all the wrong decisions can be changed.

Also the goal line technology. That was an easy one, that's why they accepted it.

Sometimes it won't work. In Greek cup semi final last year a strange goal was scored - possibly hand ball. Of the three cameras only one could illuminate but a flag pole obscured it's view !

It depends on speed and offside decisions are difficult to re-evaluate.

[Starman60 1,343]

Depressing performance by a team looking bereft of new ideas. We huffed and puffed and never got out of the starting blocks.

Only for Begovic we could have been 4-0 down at half time, and deservedly so. We were awful. our defence was ripped to shreds time and time again.

Ivanovic cant cross a ball, he hit the first opposing player with every cross, and pulled out of the tackle for their third goal.

John Terry was exposed for pace and rightly taken off at half time.

Ramires was lost and had no impact whatsoever except for when he scored (and he was onside) after that he was non- existant.

Fabregas!!!! Worst performance of his career in my estimation. So poor, he looked totally disinterested and out of his depth. This is the guy who set the league alight at the start of last season.

Hazard couldn't get on the ball in the way he likes and when he did he was still off the pace. Very disappointing.

Costa is really beginning to carve out a new career for himself...in fighting.!!! I know he is probably getting very frustrated by the lack of chances being created for him but wtf?? He would fight the pope!! A shadow of the player he was last season.

Cuadrado is not Chelsea class. The guy looked lost. I dont think he will ever improve to a standard that will challenge Oscar, Willian or Hazard. Moses would give us more I think.

The rest of the team were average......But this is far from acceptable for the Premier champions. A United type of season on the cards I fear. Our attack lacks pace, ideas and a cutting edge. I get annoyed watching us bombing down the pitch, stopping at the edge of the 18 yard, passing backwards, the across the pitch, then back again, then back to the defenders to start all over again. No cutting edge whatsoever. We need to freshen it up big time. Teams have found out how to play against us and they make us look ordinary.

Mourinho needs to get his finger out and shake the team up. Another tough test next weekend against a well organised West Brom. Lets hope that he learns from the obvious shortcoming that we have shown so far and corrects them.............quickly, very quickly

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

Cos you have no fans.

Shity!

[Unionjack 7,531]

Cos you have no fans.

Shity!

Theyve got some Petr but theyre all tossers.