Roquila 1,335 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Welcome Juan 'Spaghetti hair' Cuadrado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Waiting for the 'he is overpriced, shit...etc' brigade to come out now...Lets get Costa for 30m shouldn't we...Stop dreaming about Reus, HE WILL NEVER JOIN CHELSEA. Deal with it.We're signing Reus too, mate. Chill.Cuadrado is Salah's replacement. Reus is Schürrle's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Pretty sure that is based on Schurrle's performances this season only. It's like all the good things he did for us last season never even existed.Here Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 He had a trick against Fulham and two against Sunderland. He couldn't even get into the squad before mid December. He was and is wildly inconsistent and that's why he's off. He had a hat-trick against Fulham, a brace against Stoke, scored against PSG, Arsenal and Man City (twice) too. He is inconsistent but as if the likes of Oscar, Willian etc weren't and aren't. They have played poorly so many times and yet got so many opportunities to get into form, improve themselves and the consistency going. But Schurrle or even Salah? Hardly got enough of the privilege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Pretty sure that is based on Schurrle's performances this season only. It's like all the good things he did for us last season never even existed.Not necessarily doubting you but one could easily turn around and say a similar thing, about how most people have suddenly turned into an expert on Cuadrado or Italian football for that matter in 2-3 weeks.Oh the irony of that...I'm no expert on Serie A but I've been watching it since 2011 because Allegri's Milan was entertaining to watch. I've seen Cuadrado's breakthrough season(2012) and that was when he was playing for Lecce. Believe me when I say this his decisionmaking is much better than that of Willians. He is a more direct player but people just assume that he is like Willian just because they're both pacey black wingers lol.As for people who are complaining about the price, what do you seriously expect? The market has changed it's not like it used to be, just because our board have managed to sign world class players for such a low price does not mean it can happen everytime. This price is fairly decent for a player of his calibure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Schurrle contributes very little to the team. He gets the odd goal here and there which is great, but he often take shots from futile positions or take other poor decisions. If we can get a player that challenges Willian based on merit throughout the season that it is by itself an upgrade. Especially when it seems that we are basically swapping Schurrle for Cuadrado. If he actually does a job which is good enough to replace Willian then even better.Being able to throw in one of Cuadrado/Willian when chasing/defending a result is a scenario many coaches would dream about. Regarding Schurrle's shooting: He who is afraid to throw the dice never rolls a six. Also considering hes an inverted winger usually, it makes sense as to why he shoots so often as he prefers to come inside given the opportunity. Cuadrado has scored 4 goals in Serie A... hes hardly a goal scorer is he. Schurrle has a knack of scoring goals starting or not starting (City last year, City this year, Stoke, PSG, Arsenal, Fulham x3, Swansea, Burnley).Also according to who scored this season Cuadrado has played more as a number 10, appearing there 10 times with 4 goals so I ask is he really gonna be that much better than Willian on the right in goals and assists or in fact better than Schurrle? I doubt it very much. Signing a player whos on course to have his best stats so far in his career have come centrally to play wide sounds like Willian all over again, for another stupid inflated price, despite being an inferior player to him too. For all his lack of final ball and goals what Willian does is essential.http://www.whoscored.com/Players/44868/Also they mention holding onto the ball as a weakness, which was also Mata's problem playing on the wing, he wasn't so good under pressure where as Hazard, Willian and Oscar are...If we want a winger we should go for someone who is a step above what we have, not similar level or worse. Reus, Griezmann, Turan, Koke, all players who are much better than Willian and probably would be at a similar price if clubs were convinced to sell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Waiting for the 'he is overpriced, shit...etc' brigade to come out now...Lets get Costa for 30m shouldn't we...Stop dreaming about Reus, HE WILL NEVER JOIN CHELSEA. Deal with it.Remember what people were saying right before we signed Costa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 He had a hat-trick against Fulham, a brace against Stoke, scored against PSG and Arsenal too. He is inconsistent but as if the likes of Oscar, Willian etc weren't and aren't. They have played poorly so many times and yet got so many opportunities to get into form, improve themselves and the consistency going. But Schurrle or even Salah? Hardly got enough of the privilege.Sad truth is football has always been like that. Price, rep, relationship with manager...etc plays a huge role too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 He had a hat-trick against Fulham, a brace against Stoke, scored against PSG, Arsenal and Man City (twice) too. He is inconsistent but as if the likes of Oscar, Willian etc weren't and aren't. They have played poorly so many times and yet got so many opportunities to get into form, improve themselves and the consistency going. But Schurrle or even Salah? Hardly got enough of the privilege.Squad players have it so bad (especially at Chelsea under jose) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 According to TalkSport Chelsea have agreed a €32million deal with Fiorentina for Juan CuadradoPrecisely what I was talking about..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Di Marzio is now on it - Cuadrado is set to sign for Chelsea: €31M plus bonus, until the €35M of the release clause. And the loan of Salah.All but done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Sad truth is football has always been like that. Price, rep, relationship with manager...etc plays a huge role too No offence but this 'truth' talk is kinda BS. Some other managers would have been less stubborn and given players more chances to prove themselves as opposed to just write them off when things go south. It's fine Mourinho has good relationship with the players but doesn't mean it's fine if he's letting them affect his management of the players. Mind you, if this situation was the way round, I would be saying the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 No offence but this 'truth' talk is kinda BS. Some other managers would have been less stubborn and given players more chances to prove themselves as opposed to just write them off when things go south. It's fine Mourinho has good relationship with the players but doesn't mean it's fine if he's letting them affect his management of the players. Mind you, if this situation was the way round, would be saying the exact same thing.Even if Oscar scores 4 own goals he'll still be in the starting XI lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 No offence but this 'truth' talk is kinda BS. Some other managers would have been less stubborn and given players more chances to prove themselves as opposed to just write them off when things go south. It's fine Mourinho has good relationship with the players but doesn't mean it's fine if he's letting them affect his management of the players. Mind you, if this situation was the way round, would be saying the exact same thing.Ancelotti refused to play the likes of Matic, Sturridge...etc. Pep refused to give Thiago many chances, his successors did the same so he wanted to leave. Simeones also has his best team, the likes of Adrian...etc eventually had to leave for 1st team football even though continuously impress for them when called upon. All the top managers are the same, some are more fair than others but overall they can't please all the players.It is up to the players to prove themselves, patience and wait for their chance. For example Ramires benched for 2 months, didn't complain and now soon will be starting big games against because of injury to Fabregas...etc. I agree that sometime things are just not meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Ancelotti refused to play the likes of Matic, Sturridge...etc. Pep refused to give Thiago many chances, his successors did the same so he wanted to leave. Simeones also has his best team, the likes of Adrian...etc eventually had to leave for 1st team football even though continuously impress for them when called upon. All the top managers are the same, some are more fair than others but overall they can't please all the players.Doesn't mean they were right though. It is up to the players to prove themselves, patience and wait for their chance. For example Ramires benched for 2 months, didn't complain and now soon will be starting big games against because of injury to Fabregas...etc. I agree that sometime things are just not meant to be.You forgot to mention that Ramires was out injured for quite some time. He wasn't benched for 2 months.Mind you, Schurrle, Salah etc haven't even moaned once despite getting limited game time (unlike some of our players in the past). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Looks like a deal is almost done. I have a feeling this window might be one of our worst for a few reasons.Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I believe if we want Cuadrado to feature in some capacity against Manchester City, we would have to sign and register in the squad by 12pm UK time tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFC12 134 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Looks like a deal is almost done. I have a feeling this window might be one of our worst for a few reasons.Time will tell.Be optimist not pessimist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Be optimist not pessimist.Or some might call it, a realist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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