MuzzaFuzza 4 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hell no to Cuadrado. he is just marginally better than Wiliian. we should have gone for Alexis or Griezmann in summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Wingers can be damn frustrating to watch. Have you seen 60m Di Maria at Man utd? Almost the same things.Yes which is why I would never want Di Maria here for that much. Look at my list above, tell me someone I missed out...by better players you mean wingers like Reus who got over 20 goals for the last 3 seasons LOL? And so...if he was banging 20 of them in every season he would be at Barcelona by now. At least he dares to try, I will be horrified the day our players are afraid to do that. Having Hazard alone is not enough, Willian can do it but not often enough. Oscar can't do it well at all. (Dribbling). Also this guy is fast as hell, watch some of his sprints on youtube.I would take Turan for £30m over Cuadrado for £27m. I wonder what his release clause is though. I definitely think we should wait till the summer - you never know what players will become available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Wingers can be damn frustrating to watch. Have you seen 60m Di Maria at Man utd? Almost the same things.I daresay Di Maria has been much worse for United than Cuadrado. From what I've seen, they're actually pretty similar players in terms of style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hell no to Cuadrado. he is just marginally better than Wiliian. we should have gone for Alexis or Griezmann in summer. Hindsight is a bitch. Everyone was too busy celebrating Fabregas and Costa to care about RW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I would take Turan for £30m over Cuadrado for £27m. I wonder what his release clause is though. I definitely think we should wait till the summer - you never know what players will become available.Like I said my list are the players who can be considered top 50 wingers/wide mid in Europe atm and can be gotten in the summer with those prices or at least around those. Also Turan release clause is £32m. He works hard and is skillful but he is slow, that is why he is benched for quite a few big games for Atletico recently and only came on when the spaces opened up more toward the end of the match.Also it is not like he is setting the world on fire, his numbers are so similar to Cuadrado and could be arguably worse if compared directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hindsight is a bitch. Everyone was too busy celebrating Fabregas and Costa to care about RW. It's not the fans' job lol. I doubt the board and Mourinho were too busy celebrating. They must have thought RW wasn't a position where we needed to upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Just because I am sensing a lot of this anger in here is due to wanting Reus. Reus isn't joining. Quite obviously off to Madrid. That idea has to be put to bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Chelsea bring forward £26.8m deal for Juan Cuadrado from Fiorentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It's not the fans' job lol. I doubt the board and Mourinho were too busy celebrating. They must have thought RW wasn't a position where we needed to upgrade.Easy to say, everyone expected big things from Schurrle after that WC and goal against Burnley gave people false hope. Willian also in his 2nd season and we though he could be a better player now than last year, seem we were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 28M is about 10M too much, guy is like Willian. I've seen people say Turan's name, I'd take him, the guy is a warrior and has an end product. Was a bit gutted we didn't get him in 2012 from Galatasaray, obviously he had a bit of room for improvement but look at him now surely a world class player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Cuadrado eligible to play for chelsea in the champions league?Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hazard - Willian - Cuadrado. Counterattack at his best, very interesting option to have in UCL. Haven't we been here before? We get excited of the attacking trio and then moan about one of the them 6 months later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Remember in june when everyone here were against the signing of Costa ? Just wait before talking.I don't remember that tbh. I remember divided camps, rather than the majority being against Costa's signing.Remember when the almighty Hulk was the ultimate guy to sign a few years back though? Thank you Zenit.27 mil pounds, wow. A player capable of controlling a ball without falling over is already worth a few million nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Like I said my list are the players who can be considered top 50 wingers/wide mid in Europe atm and can be gotten in the summer with those prices or at least around those. Also Turan release clause is £32m. He works hard and is skillful but he is slow, that is why he is benched for quite a few big games for Atletico recently and only came on when the spaces opened up more toward the end of the match. Also it is not like he is setting the world on fire, his numbers are so similar to Cuadrado and could be arguably worse if compared directly.Arda is probably Atletico's best attacking player and plays in virtually all their games, including the big ones. He was being rested against Real. He can defend diligently, is very intelligent and is technically superb. I'm not sure he'd want to leave but money can turn anyone's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Stats-wise, the guy seems more like Hazard than Willian: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Stats-wise, the guy seems more like Hazard than Willian:Shhhh!! You're about to get flamed for making a comment like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 28M is about 10M too much, guy is like Willian. I've seen people say Turan's name, I'd take him, the guy is a warrior and has an end product. Was a bit gutted we didn't get him in 2012 from Galatasaray, obviously he had a bit of room for improvement but look at him now surely a world class player.Been saying that about Turan. He may not be best scorer, but he is brilliant on the ball. Strong, good balance, hardworker. About Cuadrado...he seems to have very little balance and strenght. I dunno how will he push through defences in PL. I think he will be dissposesed awfuly lot. But hopefuly it turns good for us if we get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Been saying that about Turan. He may not be best scorer, but he is brilliant on the ball. Strong, good balance, hardworker.About Cuadrado...he seems to have very little balance and strenght. I dunno how will he push through defences in PL. I think he will be dissposesed awfuly lot. But hopefuly it turns good for us if we get him.Yep Hazard with all that muscle...David Silva as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 He is a striker not a winger. Only best wingers, or midfielders who can play there at least in names anyway I can think of are:Koke 50mTuran 30-40mGrizemann 30-40mIsco could be, would also cost at least 30-40m min and doubt Madrid will sellBale- 120m + and probably not for sale, can't affordReus-20m but huge wages and most likely would come to Madrid anyway leaving Bale to sign for MU for cash + De GeaHulk-30-40m min and overratedRibery-old, injury prone and probably not for sale tooCandreva- not as good as Cuadrado and probably not good enough for ChelseaVela, Draxler, Lucas...etc are not good enoughLook to me the wingers and mids playing on the side are pretty limited, at least in top quality anyway. The closest to top class for a OK price and could be gotten are 3 Atletico mids but even then that would only happen if they want to leave/Simeone leaves.I would take Cuadradro tbh, no better option for a reasonable price as it stands. Reus is the only obvious choice but he seems difficult to get.Well he played as winger in his career too. He is quite brilliant technicaly for striker and pacy. Think it could work with some tactical learning from Mou. We had Anelka on wing in the past and it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It's not the fans' job lol. I doubt the board and Mourinho were too busy celebrating. They must have thought RW wasn't a position where we needed to upgrade.They did a great job getting 2 world class players for 60m, would be criminal if they didn't celebrate.Anyway, everything looked fine for the most part, except CB. And I'm sure Mou expected Schurrle and Salah to help out, but that just hasn't happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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