Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 He certainly deserves it if we take just this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Funny, I wouldn't put him in the top 3 this year! Messi, Zlatan and Ribery for me.Are you joking?Cristiano won it for sure. Messi will be second and Ribery third. I don't think it's fair for Ribery, but it wasn't fair to Sneijder in 2010 and in that moment no one said it was unfair.Anyone who saw the Spanish competitions knows that Ronaldo was better than Messi in 2013. Cristiano is right now the best player in the world without any doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Funny, I wouldn't put him in the top 3 this year! Messi, Zlatan and Ribery for me.Just seen this - do you still think this is the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I still dont really get it - is the award for the best player in terms of individualism, like the player with the most skill\vision\athleticism\speed\passes and whatever? Or is it for the player who has won trophies this year and was a success ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Just seen this - do you still think this is the case?No I think he deserves to be in the top 3 with his recent performances especially in the qulaifiers, but I still think he's miles off Messi, as is any other footballer on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 No I think he deserves to be in the top 3 with his recent performances especially in the qulaifiers, but I still think he's miles off Messi, as is any other footballer on the planet. Miles off Messi? c'mon.. These 2 are on the same outside planet IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Miles off Messi? c'mon.. These 2 are on the same outside planet IMO.Well I disagree. Granted that Ronaldo is a better Athlete, I think no one is even close to Messi as a footballer. His dribbling skills, his technique, his finishing with his left foot..etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well I disagree. Granted that Ronaldo is a better Athlete, I think no one is even close to Messi as a footballer. His dribbling skills, his technique, his finishing with his left foot..etc And it is exactly Ronaldo's athleticism that bridges the gap. No one is saying that when it comes to pure footballing ability Ronaldo is better; but to say that Messi is on a different planet from even Ronaldo is just wrong IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 And it is exactly Ronaldo's athleticism that bridges the gap.No one is saying that when it comes to pure footballing ability Ronaldo is better; but to say that Mesdi is on a different planet from even Ronaldo is just wrong IMO.I didn't say he was on a different plant, I just think that Messi still well ahead of everyone else. I get it that people want variety and excitement in the award, but to my eyes, Messi is the best footballer of his generation. It is as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I didn't say he was on a different plant, I just think that Messi still well ahead of everyone else. I get it that people want variety and excitement in the award, but to my eyes, Messi is the best footballer of his generation. It is as simple as that. I agree that Messi is the best footballer of his generation, but Ronaldo is a very close second and because Messi's been out for quite a bit in 2013 and Ronaldo has still been producing - naturally the award should go to him. Ronaldo's had a fantastic end to 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I agree that Messi is the best footballer of his generation, but Ronaldo is a very close second and because Messi's been out for quite a bit in 2013 and Ronaldo has still been producing - naturally the award should go to him. Ronaldo's had a fantastic end to 2013.Frank Ribery disagrees. Both are better footballers and better athletes than Ribery but he had a more successful year. Eventhough is an individual award, players' participation in winning their team trophies should also be taken into consideration. Ribery deserves it this year IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Frank Ribery disagrees.Both are better footballers and better athletes than Ribery but he had a more successful year.Eventhough is an individual award, players' participation in winning their team trophies should also be taken into consideration.Ribery deserves it this year IMOwhich is never the case if this was true messi would not have won 4 in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Frank Ribery disagrees.Both are better footballers and better athletes than Ribery but he had a more successful year.Eventhough is an individual award, players' participation in winning their team trophies should also be taken into consideration.Ribery deserves it this year IMOSneijder must be happy with his 2010 Ballon d'Or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,698 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Frank Ribery disagrees.Both are better footballers and better athletes than Ribery but he had a more successful year.Eventhough is an individual award, players' participation in winning their team trophies should also be taken into consideration.Ribery deserves it this year IMORibery had a very successful year, but why would he win the Ballon d'Or? Neuer, Alaba, Lahm, Schweinsteiger or Mandzukic was just as successful as Ribery. Bayern München was obviously the best team in 2013, but Ballon d'OR is an individual award and I think we just can't say that Ribery was better than CR or Messi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ribery had a very successful year, but why would he win the Ballon d'Or? Neuer, Alaba, Lahm, Schweinsteiger or Mandzukic was just as successful as Ribery. Bayern München was obviously the best team in 2013, but Ballon d'OR is an individual award and I think we just can't say that Ribery was better than CR or Messi.You got me wrong, here. I reckon CR, Messi and Ribery all had a phenomenal year and is hard to sort out s clear winner. So Ribery with the most contribution to winning titles should beat the other two to get the honour. Tough call, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You got me wrong, here.I reckon CR, Messi and Ribery all had a phenomenal year and is hard to sort out s clear winner. So Ribery with the most contribution to winning titles should beat the other two to get the honour.Tough call, though.Then really in that case Iniesta or Xavi should have won it in 2011 because they won almost every major trophy(including the World Cup.)I understand what you are trying to say but if anyone has to win it this year,it just has to be Ronaldo.There is nothing more he could have done to win the trophies he participated in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes, because let's be honest... Sneijder in 2010 played MUCH better than Ribery did in 2013. It's not even comparable. The thing is Bayern as a team is much better than Inter was. I don't even think Ribery was still that amazing... he was very good in a team that outstanding. Wesley was outstanding in a team that was very good. Huge difference imo.This award was much more creditable when it was done by FF Magazine. When FIFA proposed to unify both awards it automatically lost credibility because all the fucking politics that comes with FIFA started influencing.But ignoring this, this award has always been about individual talent and individual results in a calendar year. I read somewhere (although I didn't check the date) that Ronaldo has 31 goals scored this year, so let's update it. He has 28 goals only this season in official matches (38 if you add friendlies). Sum 32 goals from January to May and he's score 60 goals in this calendar year and people are still considering Ribery part of the equation...This isn't about anything else but individual accomplishments and talent and based on that Cristiano is miles ahead of anyone else. When Messi is on form, I think they're very close - but they have completely different styles - and as such it's up to each person to decide who they consider the best player. There are some things Messi is way better than Ronaldo, but Cris has a lot of aspects to his game that midget Messi doesn't, Cris is a much better athlete imo and my personal choice will always be Cris... I used to like Cris more even when he was a ManUtd player, but when he became a Blanco it was a non-brainer. So let's state it in one single line again. Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 60 goals in official matches in 2013 (9 months).http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/22774/cristiano-ronaldo?cc=3888and nitpicking the poll. The guy's name is Schweinsteiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 In terms of footballing talent, Messi is far better than Cristiano...However, the fact that Cristiano has a rocket launcher of a leg and basketball player like vertical, really helps him in his goal count..... On a side note, one big difference to me is....Messi dribbles at players.. Cristiano dribbles around them...Their a reason why neutral footballers all thing Messi is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Fernanda Lima will co-host the Ballon D'or alongside Ruud Gullit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Ronaldo has been robbed of the award last few years but hopefully people will open their eyes this year and he will win. Jose's year is just beginning so I would have to give it to Fergie for all he has achieved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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