Independent Scotland

[ZanSnake 1,211]

http://://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k40su7eHgIs

The fact that we diminish ourselves by groups is disorder for the future mayhem. Scottish Independence, British Commonwealth - no matter what, we all yearn for the right to have freedom of speech and religious choice - though that is constantly question by others.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

MEANT FOR ANYONE SITE THOUGH I AM STILL INTRIGUED

I guess a dismissive reply in the works, despite the actual philosophical, political and humanistic that is provided!

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

Got to be the most embarrassing thing Scotland will ever do. We get the chance to vote to become an independent country, half the world was watching, hoping we did do it and then we fucking make a tit of ourselves by voting no. Brilliant. Now Rangers fans have been making Nazi salutes next to war monuments and a Yes voter has even been stabbed. Fucking scum. George Osbornes announced £37 billion of austerity cuts too to top it all off. Well done Scotland.....

Anybody who thinks they're Nazi salutes are incredibly ignorant. They're the red hand of Ulster...

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

Anybody who thinks they're Nazi salutes are incredibly ignorant. They're the red hand of Ulster...

There was a bit of both. Various photos appeared on social media of both red hand of Ulster salutes and Nazi salutes. Obviously doing either salute next to war monuments doesn't help their case in case its misinterpreted but still a joke at the same time.

Channel Four reporter Alex Thomson said he heard chants ofTen German Bombers, Rule Britannia and God Save The Queen, accompanied by what could be interpreted as a Nazi-style salute.

Yes voter been stabbed don't talk shite lol

Police describe it as 'handbags' which it is there is idiots on both sides. Are you saying the no sides actions have been acceptable over the last few weeks ? Alex Sammonds actions have started all this.

What about the CSC and some GB turning up tonight. Big bad Rangers fans lol

The riots were started by unionists, which as you can guess contain a shit load of Rangers fans - not all of them are tarred with the same brush obviously but there was a fair share of them there with the unionists that were rioting despite the No vote winning. Doesn't matter who turned up in the end was it the CSC or GB, the unionists started the riots.

[The_Flash 1,144]

There was a bit of both. Various photos appeared on social media of both red hand of Ulster salutes and Nazi salutes. Obviously doing either salute next to war monuments doesn't help their case in case its misinterpreted but still a joke at the same time.

The riots were started by unionists, which as you can guess contain a shit load of Rangers fans - not all of them are tarred with the same brush obviously but there was a fair share of them there with the unionists that were rioting despite the No vote winning. Doesn't matter who turned up in the end was it the CSC or GB, the unionists started the riots.

Hahah of course you would now chip in here, and bring up Rangers haha

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

Putting it in perspective, the troublemakers were a very small minority, and it was bound to happen given the emotive nature of the situation. Probably 0.01% of the population and not representative of by far the majority of Scottish people.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Putting it in perspective, the troublemakers were a very small minority, and it was bound to happen given the emotive nature of the situation. Probably 0.01% of the population and not representative of by far the majority of Scottish people.

Exactly!!

And in all honesty the no people had said since last week that if no won they would have their own celebration.

The yes people were allowed two days of burning saltires, clambering on the war cenotaph. They had spent their campaign intimidating people, spray painting 'vote yes and you will be shot' on polling stations. A blind better together campaigner was attacked.

I myself was shouted at in the street for simply wearing a no thanks badge.

Yet the majority of these bad events were hidden in the media.

The yes campaign lost, they had two days in George square, the police should have moved them on and allowed the no people the same respect and freedom allowed to the yes.

This didn't happen they stayed and caused a fight between people who were entitled to celebrate. It was very interesting to me so many cameras there to capture the 'big bad unionists' but were nowhere to be seen when the yes people were carrying on the night before.

I know people who were there and there was a lot of parents and young children and the vast MAJORITY just wanted to celebrate us saving the union.

There is extremists on both sides and I hope we all just move on and I hope the giant fractures this referendum has created in our society are left behind and we can all work together for a better Scotland.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

Putting it in perspective, the troublemakers were a very small minority, and it was bound to happen given the emotive nature of the situation. Probably 0.01% of the population and not representative of by far the majority of Scottish people.

Personally, I expected it to be a hell of a lot worse.

[The_Flash 1,144]

The funniest thing in a bunch of news reports they used the line 'they sang Rule Britannia'

OMG, didn't realise such a wonderful song was so frowned upon, lol

[Jambo 231]

Oh the big bad no voters and Unionists!

The fact is we could go tit-for-tat all night. Both sides had a bad element to it. The riots started on Friday night because they were provoked.

Elements from the BNP, csc and green brigade all showed up to make their statements for their respective voting interests.

Yes camp are hurting bad after being promised the world, built up full of false hope then dropped like a tonne of bricks and now they are looking to tarnish the name of not only those who voted no but also Great Britain.

There is absolutely no excuse for the scenes in George Square on Friday night. Union Flags were set alight a couple of nights previous. The burning a Saltire was the reaction of few idiotic individuals (for whatever reason i don't know) who thought it would be a good idea to hit back at the 'other side'.

What now needs to happen is that the bitterness is downed and everybody pulls together to work towards the goals of everybody in a newly enlightened nation because whether you voted Yes or No, the vote was cast in the best interests of everybody in the country. It's how you viewed what was best and what you prioritised that made the difference.

[The_Flash 1,144]

It brought the sectarian divide to the forefront and it was bad from both sides it was just sad only one side was broadcast.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

Glasgow was always going to kick off, getting a majority Yes vote, but its a minority.

End of the day its all positive. Scotland will get stronger. Complacent Eton Oxbridge educated Westminster shaken up, concessions for Scotland, more power, and now Wales and England want more powers, and decentralisation

[Jambo 231]

The referendum should never have happened without the clear majority of the country which it never had. Thats what created the tension. If, like other countries going for independence they had 70/80/90% support it wouldn't have divded a country. Glasgow has always been a divided city and probably will be for a long long time to come!

Yes campaign had a big loud, vocal campaign and thats the main reason it done as well as it did and gained such huge support. Darling failed himself in the second debate but No was always a silent majority. If the referendum was never brought up it wouldn't have been an issue for most people and now that independence didn't go through 45% of Scotland is acting like the world has ended.

The police were expecting trouble in the event of a NO vote given the agressive behaviour of the yes side the previous few days.

Shame on anybody on Friday out causing trouble and behaving in like small minded bigots, bringing the efforts of others into disrepute, whether they carried a Union Flag or a Saltire. They weren't representitives of no voters, yes voters, Rangers, Scotland or Great Britain, but only of themselves.

[The_Flash 1,144]

The referendum should never have happened without the clear majority of the country which it never had. Thats what created the tension. If, like other countries going for independence they had 70/80/90% support it wouldn't have divded a country. Glasgow has always been a divided city and probably will be for a long long time to come!

Yes campaign had a big loud, vocal campaign and thats the main reason it done as well as it did and gained such huge support. Darling failed himself in the second debate but No was always a silent majority. If the referendum was never brought up it wouldn't have been an issue for most people and now that independence didn't go through 45% of Scotland is acting like the world has ended.

The police were expecting trouble in the event of a NO vote given the agressive behaviour of the yes side the previous few days.

Shame on anybody on Friday out causing trouble and behaving in like small minded bigots, bringing the efforts of others into disrepute, whether they carried a Union Flag or a Saltire. They weren't representitives of no voters, yes voters, Rangers, Scotland or Great Britain, but only of themselves.

It was also the people on Wed and Thursday night who I am ashamed of. The yes people shoud not have commandeered George square and did what they did while there.

[Jambo 231]

It was also the people on Wed and Thursday night who I am ashamed of. The yes people shoud not have commandeered George square and did what they did while there.

Yep totally agree. People can turn a blind eye when it suits them!