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The season I'm speaking of specifically was 2011-2012 where Coentrao played in more of the Champs league games and also the clasico. I can't remember if Marcelo was injured though to be honest.

Oh, you mean the season where Marcelo started 31 league games compared to Coentrao's 12. At least in one of the El Clasico's they both played, Marcelo at LB and Coentrao in midfield.

In the Champions League they pretty much shared the games. Don't remember either if one of them was injured for some of the games but at least in the knockout stages there looks to have been a trend of Coentrao starting the first leg and then Marcelo starting the decisive second leg. Happened each round against CSKA, APOEL and Bayern.

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Not even an argument really. I just don't think we're gonna see much variation from what we've seen in the past, there may be more quality but nota complete abandonment from what Jose normally does.

Discussion would have been a better word.

Bold part: This is the key thing though. If we play exactly the same but with Luis replacing Ivanovic as the more attacking fullback, then there's a better chance of breaking down a bus.

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Oh, you mean the season where Marcelo started 31 league games compared to Coentrao's 12.

In the Champions League they pretty much shared the games. Don't remember either if one of them was injured for some of the games but at least in the knockout stages there looks to have been a trend of Coentrao starting the first leg and then Marcelo starting the decisive second leg. Happened each round against CSKA, APOEL and Bayern.

I can't argue something I'm not sure about makes no sense. Even still its clear Marcelo was in Jose's dog house, what do you think that was all about?

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Nah... that usually happens if we haven't scored and we're searching for it. 70mins or so.

You guys are hoping Mourinho changes his stripes but he knows how to win and his methods don't variate all that much.

Think you're forgetting the fact that last season Ivanovic was constantly allowed to move forward and join the attack, even against the top teams.

It makes sense that Filipe Luis would take over that role on the opposite side and Azpi then coming in on the right and taking a similar (defensive) role as he did on the left last season.

We'll probably see Terry moving to the right CB position aswell so he can still get the extra protection from his closest fullback.

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I can't argue something I'm not sure about makes no sense. Even still its clear Marcelo was in Jose's dog house, what do you think that was all about?

What do you mean by that?

Starting over 80% of the league games and playing full minutes in each of the decisive Champions League matches does not scream 'being in the dog house', at least not to me.

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What do you mean by that?

Starting over 80% of the league games and playing full minutes in each of the decisive Champions League matches does not scream 'being in the dog house', at least not to me.

Coentrao was also injured. What I'm saying is Marcelo and Jose obviously didn't see eye to eye but for lack of an alternative Marcelo was played. Are you really contesting that the two of them didn't get along?

Moot point anyway, if your only example of Jose not preferring his FB's to stay home is Marcelo its not exactly the most compelling argument. Having said that when you look at Luis you will see precisely what Jose wants in a FB, ball winning ability. If he gets forward it will be on a need basis and for the most part its not a need, we play counter attack against bigger teams and in most of the small games we were able to get the result with our front 4 plus one Mid.

All I can tell you guys is based on what I've been told by Nick Dasovic and what I saw in one of Jose's dossier(He has one for every player in the XI but it highlights the tactical deployment of every player on the pitch) FB's don't bomb on at will unless the need is there. 20mins left in a game with no real incision.

We will see more quality because Brana wasn't the best attacker, but the deployment won't change all that much.

Azpi was moved to the LB position because he provided better coverage for Hazard than the now slow footed Ashley Cole. He will now go back to his natural position and with Luis will provide us with two ball winning FB's who win the ball in excellent areas to initiate counter attacks.

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Think you're forgetting the fact that last season Ivanovic was constantly allowed to move forward and join the attack, even against the top teams.

It makes sense that Filipe Luis would take over that role on the opposite side and Azpi then coming in on the right and taking a similar (defensive) role as he did on the left last season.

We'll probably see Terry moving to the right CB position aswell so he can still get the extra protection from his closest fullback.

We will see... I have a feeling you guys are gonna be disappointed if you think this acquisition will lead to more help for Hazard going forward.

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I disagree. I think for the majority of times (against inferior teams which we'll face more often than not) they'll support our attackers to build play, and not only provide a solid platform.

I'm very certain our fullbacks will be more involved in general play next season. Mou will not be as conservative next season as he was in the last.

Damn straight. Probably one of the reasons we weren't able to break down tight defences was the lack of involvement of our FB. Pretty sure Jose spent big money on him to address that issue.

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We will see... I have a feeling you guys are gonna be disappointed if you think this acquisition will lead to more help for Hazard going forward.

Don't really get why you think that. Why else would we have bought Filipe Luis ? If Mourinho was happy with the way it was don't you think he would have just kept Azpi and Ivanovic as his first choice fullbacks ?

The fact that he bought Filipe Luis seems to be a clear indication (to me atleast) that he wants something different from that left back position then what he got from Azpi.

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Don't really get why you think that. Why else would we have bought Filipe Luis ? If Mourinho was happy with the way it was don't you think he would have just kept Azpi and Ivanovic as his first choice fullbacks ?

The fact that he bought Filipe Luis seems to be a clear indication (to me atleast) that he wants something different from that left back position then what he got from Azpi.

He wasn't happy with playing Azpi out of position that was out of necessity... What he wants is balance down both flanks. With Luis and Azpi you get similar characteristics and the ability to win the ball in excellent areas to counter attack.

I could be wrong, not professing to be a know it all I just think Jose is the type of manager who thinks about building stability from the back to build attacks. Luis provides that and also has the ability to get forward if the need presents itself.

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