Oscar 441 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 we are getting 15mil pounds for him.. which is 21 mil euros. i would like to think that its actually 20mil euros rounded off while converted into pounds. so basically we got a player for FREE for a year. how did you come up with "loss"We lost bertrand though. Who was more than adequate starting or at least being a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 We lost bertrand though. Who was more than adequate starting or at least being a backup. cant argue with that. infact bertrand's loss was the only thing that makes me angry in this whole luis one-year fiasco. not some overwieght, over-hyped 30mil defender. Viper22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Good to see him go. There's no way he should be rotting on the bench when he's better than the competition ahead of him.I guess our pursuit for Abdul Baba Rahman will hopefully come to a conclusion. Gilvorak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 we are getting 15mil pounds for him.. which is 21 mil euros. i would like to think that its actually 20mil euros rounded off while converted into pounds. so basically we got a player for FREE for a year. how did you come up with "loss"Spanish sources say 16m euros (£11m) for a 3-year deal, while Di Marzio says it's £3m/year for a 2-year loan deal with an option to buy. The exact figures are disputed but we certainly won't have made anything but a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 we are getting 15mil pounds for him.. which is 21 mil euros. i would like to think that its actually 20mil euros rounded off while converted into pounds. so basically we got a player for FREE for a year. how did you come up with "loss"You're still trying to argue with him with logic? Have we not discovered yet that logic does not exist in the magical world of Gilvorak?If the signing of Luis for a year meant we didn't get Shaw then we should send Luis and Jose flowers. Shaw was awful last year and was injured so much that he played 4 fewer games last season than Luis did ffs.£30M and £100k p/w for Shaw would have been an awful choice, especially given the fact that it would have upset the squad that an unproven LB would be getting more money than some of our starters. I was all for the signing of Shaw but if it turns out that instead of him we got Luis essentially on loan for a year (no loss in transfer fees) and now Baba as 2nd choice LB (looks likely) then once again Mou has been proven right. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Spanish sources say 16m euros (£11m) for a 3-year deal, while Di Marzio says it's £6m for a 2-year loan deal with an option to buy. The exact figures are disputed but we certainly won't have made anything but a loss.sky sports says - 15mil pounds, which makes us break even.and i have a hard time believing di marzio cos "the option to buy" runs out after the 2 years on loan. so unless our board have forgotten how long the players' contracts run, i feel di marzio is wrong (for once).and even if we sell him for 16mil euros. we would have made a 4mil euros "loss". or rather got a player's services for 4mil euros for an year. fair enough. i dont mind that "loss" Viper22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 If the signing of Luis for a year meant we didn't get Shaw then we should send Luis and Jose flowers. Shaw was awful last year and was injured so much that he played 4 fewer games last season than Luis did ffs.is that true? funny how things work out. Viper22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 It's a shame we've lost him. The bigger shame is that he never got a proper run in the team. How can you expect a defender to adapt so quickly to a new league when you don't give him consistent chances?That being aside, he was great whenever he played. His link-up play with Hazard and the fluidity he gave to our game would have been priceless against UCL oppositions. Filipe Luis would look like an absolute world class player if he played in a pressing system at the back. I think he would also be world class if we keep playing like this at the back only if he got a proper chance.Managers would get slaughtered if they benched the best left-back in the world in the previous season. I cannot understand how a player like Ivanovic kept him out of the team. Despite being probably the best manager in the world, Mourinho has his favorites I guess... Vybz Kartel, DYC., Unionjack and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 is that true? funny how things work out. Actually according to transfermarkt turns out I was wrong, Luis made 26 appearances and Shaw made only 20 so it was 6 more:http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/filipe-luis/leistungsdaten/spieler/21725/plus/?saison=2014http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/luke-shaw/leistungsdaten/spieler/183288/plus/?saison=2014Shaw only managed 90mins on the pitch 4 times after the 8th November too. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Luke Shaw was only 19 last season. Like Stones we would be paying for his potential not just his current ability. Unlike Filipe he wouldn't need to start every game either.His reported £100k p/w wages seem to be a myth according to him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 sky sports says - 15mil pounds, which makes us break even.and i have a hard time believing di marzio cos "the option to buy" runs out after the 2 years on loan. so unless our board have forgotten how long the players' contracts run, i feel di marzio is wrong (for once).and even if we sell him for 16mil euros. we would have made a 4mil euros "loss". or rather got a player's services for 4mil euros for an year. fair enough. i dont mind that "loss"You're right that the option to buy appears to make little sense and since nobody else is reporting a loan deal it doesn't seem so plausible.The Guardian are also now reporting a £16m deal but it's hard to believe that Atleti would pay that much. I wouldn't be surprised if this is another case of the English media simply converting euro to pound but not the actual figure. In any case 16m euros isn't such a bad deal.It's a pity how things turned out here for Luis but I'm happy for him that he gets to return to regularly playing at the top level instead of rotting on the bench. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Let's sell Mikel for £15m now :eyebrows: Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Let's sell Mikel for £15m now :eyebrows:Easier said than done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Let's sell Mikel for £15m now :eyebrows:would be our board's biggest achievement ever, even considering luiz's 40mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 His reported £100k p/w wages seem to be a myth according to him as well.Lahm earns over £100k p/w and Shaw only said that he doesn't earn as much as him and not that he doesn't earn £100k p/w, no? Given United's apparent wage structure it wouldn't be surprising if Shaw is actually earning that much.Even if we had put in a transfer bid as high as United's then we don't know if his being a Chelsea fan would have overidden his desire for a much larger wage package, but I suspect not. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Luke Shaw was only 19 last season. Like Stones we would be paying for his potential not just his current ability. Unlike Filipe he wouldn't need to start every game either.His reported £100k p/w wages seem to be a myth according to him as well.http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlh45egml/no-18-philipp-lahm-bayern-munich/lahm earns 15mil dollars (9.5mil pounds an year) (and since its forbes i am inclined to believe it).so shaw saying that he does not earn more than lahm might be true but in no way does it say anything about 100kpw wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Talented player but was very mistake prone when he did get a chance. I can see why Jose has no trust in him and why he plays azpi over him even though luis is more talented. Really disappointing that such a talented player like filipe didn't work out for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Talented player but was very mistake prone when he did get a chance. I can see why Jose has no trust in him and why he plays azpi over him even though luis is more talented. Really disappointing that such a talented player like filipe didn't work out for us.He didn't even make a single mistake when playing for Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Luke Shaw was only 19 last season. Like Stones we would be paying for his potential not just his current ability. Unlike Filipe he wouldn't need to start every game either.His reported £100k p/w wages seem to be a myth according to him as well.According to reports Lahm earns around £160k per week. So, even if Shaw doesn't earn more than Lahm, he can easily earn anything between 100k and 160k, and it won't be more than Lahm's salary.Edit: didn't notice previous posts. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The awkward moment when we discussed about Shaw and Lahm wages in Luis thread.. Barbara, iseah100, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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