Cesc Fàbregas

[lucio 5,418]

Doubt this,, unless a marquee is coming

[killer1257 3,282]

57 minutes ago, the wes said:

 Conte has made it clear Cesc Fabregas can leave Chelsea [El Confidencial]

It is funny that Oscar survived all those coaches and he won he battle against Mata,KDB and Cesc,but he still delivers no creativity going forward.He may run a lot and he can also defend against smaller teams,but he gets easily destroyed by bigger teams.I remember against PSG,he was completely destroyed,delivered nothing in that match and that is a typical Oscar.Good against smaller teams,struggles against middle class teams and gets destroyed by bigger teams.

Cesc can deliver great passes against any team,he is that good.He gets exposed defensively,but he has his strenghts going forward.If Cesc is out,Costa will struggle a lot due to the fact that Only Hazard can feed him with good passes and if that is not the case anymore,Costa actually has to get back and get the ball and that is something I honestly do not want to see.The reason for that is simple. If he has to get the ball from the back,he has to do more with his feet.His first touch and his combination play are horrible.His two biggest strenghts are his shot accurancy and his runs behind the defenders.He will not be able to do that shit,so Costa is basically useless for most of the time.

If we get James,I could understand Cesc leaving and accept it,but Oscar as our main starter and Cesc leaving is too much for me.Selling Mata,selling KDB and selling Cesc and giving Oscar the chance being the main starter for the next 5 years is too much for me.I can´t handle that shit. All those named played were far better than Oscar,but all our coaches thought that Oscar was the real deal...

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

He is a fantastic player to have in the squad. If he's cool with more of a squad role I'd love to keep him

[King11Didier 916]

Hope this is another bullsh8t.

[Pizy 18,877]

Can't see any way he leaves. We have no one else in the entire squad that offers what he does. 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

27 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Can't see any way he leaves. We have no one else in the entire squad that offers what he does. 

Conversely, you don't need what he offers to win the Premier League title. 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

If we can bring in Brozovic, I won't mind if he leaves. But if he does leave, it will be interesting to see where he goes. All this fanciful talk of Real Madrid just sounds like the machinations of his agent. 

 

[killer1257 3,282]

3 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

If we can bring in Brozovic, I won't mind if he leaves. But if he does leave, it will be interesting to see where he goes. All this fanciful talk of Real Madrid just sounds like the machinations of his agent. 

 

But is Brozovic anywhere near Cesc level when it comes to passing?We need a world class passer in a midfield with Kante and Matic.If Hazard is injured,Oscar will not deliver

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

26 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

But is Brozovic anywhere near Cesc level when it comes to passing?We need a world class passer in a midfield with Kante and Matic.If Hazard is injured,Oscar will not deliver

You're right that Fabregas is a better passer than Brozovic. He's also a better player (at least in the 1st half of the season, when he usually shows up) but his shortcomings cannot be ignored. I can make a fairly convincing argument that his weaknesses as a player have hurt us just as much as  his strengths. Conte, one of the top two tacticians in the league besides Guardiola, recognizes(d) that.  

Brozovic is not my first choice but I mentioned him since we're linked to him. But you're wrong to think that we need a world class passer in a midfield with Kante and Matic. That is you inserting your presupposition into what you think is a must have requirement to win the Premier League title. It just isn't and has never been. There are many examples of teams that won the championship without having world class passers. 

[J.F. 1,484]

45 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Conversely, you don't need what he offers to win the Premier League title. 

fabregas is directly responsible for 3 points against watford.  who need creative player like him to unlock the "park the bus" defense and get all 3 points which can lead to premier league title. lol

[killer1257 3,282]

Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're right that Fabregas is a better passer than Brozovic. He's also a better player but his shortcomings cannot be ignored. I can make a fairly convincing argument that his weaknesses as a player have hurt us just as much as  his strengths. Conte, one of the top two tacticians in the league besides Guardiola, recognizes(d) that.  

Brozovic is not my first choice but I mentioned him since we're linked to him. But you're wrong to think that we need a world class passer in a midfield with Kante and Matic. That is you inserting your presupposition into what you think is a must have requirement to win the Premier League title. It just isn't and has never been. There are many examples of teams that won the championship without having world class passers. 

We also do not need Hazard because United won the PL with only one world class player that was in his prime and that was RVP.But it is nice to have a Hazard in your team.

If we want to compete against great clubs in the CL,we need to have a player that actually can create chances. Barcelona was the best team over a long time of period because they had world class creative playern like Iniesta and Xavi in their midfield,they had world class creative strikers like Messi,Villa and Henry in the front.

Cesc played a huge role in our title winning season due to the fact that Cesc assisted most of Costa´s goals with great passes.When Cesc was not in form anymore,Costa also started to play bad because his good runs where useless.The reason for that was that Cesc did not play those balls that Costa needed,so Costa was useless.We had luck that Hazard was in his form of life and he delivered in the second half of the season,but Cesc played a huge part,also against the big team, in our title winning season.

Cesc has his defensive weaknesses,but Kante and Mikel(I hope this Matic shit stops) can cover his ass,so he can concentrate on what he does best and that is assisting goals and creating chances for our strikers.The funny thing is that City plays with Silva and KDB in a midfield.They both are not players that are known for their world class tackling rates.Stil,they seem to do pretty well.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

1 minute ago, J.F. said:

fabregas is directly responsible for 3 points against watford so yes, who need creativity to win the league lol

You can't read properly, and I can't help you with that. 

[AWorriedChelseaFan 151]

Would be absolute madness if we let him go right now near the end of the transfer window, especially when we can't even sign new players to reinforce our squad.

 

Fabregas is also the least of our problems from last season, sort out the defense first.

[Nuski 7]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1686540/chelsea-transfer-news-cesc-fabregas-told-by-antonio-conte-that-he-is-free-to-leave-the-club/

[J.F. 1,484]

 

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

You can't read properly, and I can't help you with that. 

 

maybe I can't read properly but if I mind, can u explain me why would u replace fabregas with brozovic?