Homegrown status

[Styles 9,790]

As strange as this sounds, sometimes I completely forget about Chalobah until he's mentioned.

I'm going to watch this u21 game to see how he's doing.

[Liquidator 5,176]

isn't Ake now home grown for next season?

[iseah100 5,612]

I don't understand this homegrown stuff. What are the requirements to be considered homegrown? How many do we need on the roster?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Piazon joined Chelsea in 2012, on the day he turned 18 sometime in January. The transfer was made official a year earlier and he started training with the reserves sometime later that year but surely that time won't count towards him being homegrown as he didn't even have a contract yet? Then in January 2013 he went on loan to Malaga having only spent a year at the club and after that he headed straight to Vitesse for the 13/14 season. In short, he's been on loan more than he has been at Chelsea so I'm having a really hard time figuring out how he's supposed to be homegrown when for example Tomas Kalas is not when he too has been under contract with the club ever since he was 18 years old and that was almost four years ago. If time spent on loan counts towards a player being HG, then surely Kalas should qualify as one too.

I'm pretty sure that the years spent in the academy even without a contract count. That's kinda the whole point of the homegrown quota: to bring player from the academy through. And thechels.com says that he has been here since 2010 which is 4 and half years. Meaning he's spent 3 years here before going on loan for the past year and a half.

isn't Ake now home grown for next season?

Yeah, he is.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I don't understand this homegrown stuff. What are the requirements to be considered homegrown? How many do we need on the roster?

In a team of 25, the team need at least 8 home grown players. A homegrown player is, irrespective of nationality, someone who has trained in England for at least 3 years between ages of 16-21.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Lukaku will be HG this year; yet another reason why we should keep.

Thank you...

[iseah100 5,612]

In a team of 25, the team need at least 8 home grown players. A homegrown player is, irrespective of nationality, someone who has trained in England for at least 3 years between ages of 16-21.

Ohhhhh... thanks, I got it. How many do we have? 3, at least.

[Jype 6,398]

I'm pretty sure that the years spent in the academy even without a contract count. That's kinda the whole point of the homegrown quota: to bring player from the academy through. And thechels.com says that he has been here since 2010 which is 4 and half years. Meaning he's spent 3 years here before going on loan for the past year and a half.

I wouldn't be so sure the time spent with the reserves will count in this case because back then he didn't even have a visa IIRC and couldn't play official youth nor reserve games before the transfer became official in 2012 so it wasn't like other academy players. And even if it did count it wouldn't make a difference because there's still no way he should count as homegrown, at least not yet, because he definitely only joined the reserve team sometime in the summer of 2011 and your sources are wrong if they're saying 2010. By the time he went on loan to Malaga he had only been training at the club for a year and a half, a year of that under contract, and the requirement to be homegrown is three years which Piazon sure as hell did not meet.

e: Just checked wikipedia and turns out he was able to play official reserve and youth games back in 2011 but still that doesn't change anything, fact remains he had only been at the club for 1.5 years before being shipped out on loan.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I wouldn't be so sure the time spent with the reserves will count in this case because back then he didn't even have a visa IIRC and couldn't play official youth nor reserve games before the transfer became official in 2012 so it wasn't like other academy players. And even if it did count it wouldn't make a difference because there's still no way he should count as homegrown, at least not yet, because he definitely only joined the reserve team sometime in the summer of 2011 and your sources are wrong if they're saying 2010. By the time he went on loan to Malaga he had only been training at the club for a year and a half, a year of that under contract, and the requirement to be homegrown is three years which Piazon sure as hell did not meet.

e: Just checked wikipedia and turns out he was able to play official reserve and youth games back in 2011 but still that doesn't change anything, fact remains he had only been at the club for 1.5 years before being shipped out on loan.

I think you're actually right. He did join in 2011. So the link in the OP got it wrong on both occasions: his joining date and his homegrown status. Apologies.

[Madmax 9,219]

I wouldn't be so sure the time spent with the reserves will count in this case because back then he didn't even have a visa IIRC and couldn't play official youth nor reserve games before the transfer became official in 2012 so it wasn't like other academy players. And even if it did count it wouldn't make a difference because there's still no way he should count as homegrown, at least not yet, because he definitely only joined the reserve team sometime in the summer of 2011 and your sources are wrong if they're saying 2010. By the time he went on loan to Malaga he had only been training at the club for a year and a half, a year of that under contract, and the requirement to be homegrown is three years which Piazon sure as hell did not meet.

e: Just checked wikipedia and turns out he was able to play official reserve and youth games back in 2011 but still that doesn't change anything, fact remains he had only been at the club for 1.5 years before being shipped out on loan.

The guy who compiled this list (@chelseayouth on twitter) confirmed Piazon isn't HG; it's a copy-paste error on their part. They've corrected it.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The guy who compiled this list (@chelseayouth on twitter) confirmed Piazon isn't HG; it's a copy-paste error. They've corrected it.

They also have his joining year wrong.

[Madmax 9,219]

They also have his joining year wrong.

I didn't check. Posted the link because chelseayouth is a good account and thechels.org are a great CFC resource in my experience.