Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Let's just wait and see how many trophies the special one wins next season, then I'll judge him again!I do not care more about Torres than about the Club, I spend a hell of a lot of money flying to games a couple of times a month from Scotland, club hotel etc, buy 3 shirts every year, sub to chelsea TV eat in and drink in the clubs restaurants before the game...I think people are Blinded by Jose's "record" you are only as good as your last game....or season in a Managers case, and in this case? well he failed surely? I can't see Roman telling him " It's ok if you don't win a trophy in your first year back'I'm sorry a players/managers History means nothing to me, It's what they do in the present! would you Sign Messi in 20 years and play him, Just because " his record is brilliant?no.please explain how Mourinho failed? when in actual fact he made huge progress while cleaning up Rafa's mess! please enlighten us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 please explain how Mourinho failed? when in actual fact he made huge progress while cleaning up Rafa's mess! please enlighten us. No treble, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Our club with the 4th BPL or 2nd CL title or Klopp/Simeone as new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Let's just wait and see how many trophies the special one wins next season, then I'll judge him again!I do not care more about Torres than about the Club, I spend a hell of a lot of money flying to games a couple of times a month from Scotland, club hotel etc, buy 3 shirts every year, sub to chelsea TV eat in and drink in the clubs restaurants before the game...I think people are Blinded by Jose's "record" you are only as good as your last game....or season in a Managers case, and in this case? well he failed surely? I can't see Roman telling him " It's ok if you don't win a trophy in your first year back'I'm sorry a players/managers History means nothing to me, It's what they do in the present! would you Sign Messi in 20 years and play him, Just because " his record is brilliant?no.Save your sob story about how great of a fan you are.Failed? He kept us in the title race with no strike force. That alone is worth a trophy.And your example about Messi is so incredibly stupid I cant even be bothered explaining why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Considering we have a manager who has won nothing for 2 years, I'm a little worried....Rafa has won more in last 2 season's than Mourinho...let that sink in.Hold on, wait a minute, what your effectively saying is...... McLeish was better than Ancelotti in 2011.Dalglish was better than Fergie in 2012.Laudrup was better than Klopp in 2013andif Hull win the FA Cup and Leti win nowt Bruce is better than Simeone.Going by your logic all the above is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Be nice to me...I might be your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 No treble, duh. More like no a single trophy, or FINAL!HULL are in the FA cup final! HULL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 please explain how Mourinho failed? when in actual fact he made huge progress while cleaning up Rafa's mess! please enlighten us. Sob story? I was just saying that I'm not just a Remote control fan, Unlike a good percentage of people on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Sob story? I was just saying that I'm not just a Remote control fan, Unlike a good percentage of people on here.So because you're not a "remote fan" (whatever that means) your opinion is more valid than others right?A lot of people at the Bridge would find your love for Torres and hate for Mourinho more than delusion too, so come off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 So because you're not a "remote fan" (whatever that means) your opinion is more valid than others right?A lot of people at the Bridge would find your love for Torres and hate for Mourinho more than delusion too, so come off it.I'm not saying it's more Valid, I'm just meaning that the first guy Implied I was an armchair fan!A lot of people at the bridge Get behind Torres, as he is a chelsea player, playing for the team (5 assists) more than others do!People seem to forget that Liverpool/Spain completely fucked his knee so he would be fit for the World cup!YES he's not the players he was, but if he's in a chelsea shirt, playing for the team...we should support him...same with any player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 More like no a single trophy, or FINAL!HULL are in the FA cup final! HULL!!So Bruce is better than Jose and Rodgers is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm not saying it's more Valid, I'm just meaning that the first guy Implied I was an armchair fan!A lot of people at the bridge Get behind Torres, as he is a chelsea player, playing for the team (5 assists) more than others do!People seem to forget that Liverpool/Spain completely fucked his knee so he would be fit for the World cup!YES he's not the players he was, but if he's in a chelsea shirt, playing for the team...we should support him...same with any player.You say they deserve support, fair enough, but then you tore Eto'o apart after he scored a hat trick vs United.One rule for Torres, another for the superior forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 So Bruce is better than Jose and Rodgers is he?And Moyes is better than Klopp:ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couris 232 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 please explain how Mourinho failed? when in actual fact he made huge progress while cleaning up Rafa's mess! please enlighten us. huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 huh?Exactly, Rafa's mess , that finished in the same position! won a European trophy, got to two semi finals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 please explain how Mourinho failed? when in actual fact he made huge progress while cleaning up Rafa's mess! please enlighten us. think jose only got like 5 more points than Rafa? Rafa got us a European trophy...should have been in FA cup final if City didn't cheat...Hardly a mess :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I think some people have lost the point of this thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 think jose only got like 5 more points than Rafa? Rafa got us a European trophy...should have been in FA cup final if City didn't cheat...Hardly a mess :/oh so it was Rafa who won us the EL then was it?So by that logic it was Rafa's fault why we lost the Carling Cup and CWC! 2 trophies that were there on a plate for him to win but he failed miserably! It was our players who won us the EL not Rafa! if he couldn't even win us 2 trophies that were on a plate for him, so its a bit ridiculous to put the EL win down to him.btw reaching the CL Semi final is a much much bigger achievement then winning the EL! as Rafa would say FACT!Rafa left the team with no balance and no identity! Jose had to fix that mess when he came in! FACT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 huh?The fact that he left us with a team with no balance and no identity! Jose inherited a team of players who had no specific style of playing. Something that was always going to take time to fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 More like no a single trophy, or FINAL!HULL are in the FA cup final! HULL!!So you judge success only on trophies won? So you don't take In To consideration things like a manager inheriting a team with no balance, going through a transition season and not having a prolific goal scorer in the entire squad, while going through a building process? Does none of that matter then? and being out the title race in December last season and Challenging till the final few weeks this season, something we haven't done in years! and going out the CL group stage last season and and getting to the CL Semi Finals this season does none of this huge progress no matter as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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