Rumoured John Stones

[Special Juan 28,124]

Mmmm we'll see.

[Marvin123 530]

Cahill included would get this deal done

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Probably not but then again, he would probably have some sort ridiculous release clause in his contract, which would amount to a big fee as well. The point here, anyway, is more about people questioning his quality as opposed to his fee.

 

He is not quality worth 40m. Come on.

I would take him for lets say 20m. He is playing regular football in PL, realy young and has good potential. On top english who we need most right now.

But for 40m? Hell no he makes too many mistakes for that fee. Regardless of age. If you value a CB 40m he better be damn good CB or at least have some serious potential. I mean every CB makes mistakes but Stones style of play only means he will make mistakes alot more than someone like Zouma who just kicks the ball away. 

Also Stones is so highly rated because of his ability on ball. While its good for CB to have good ball control nowdays, he is still a CB. Meanwhile he is only good in defence (partly because of style he plays which is more prone to mistakes). But is that worth 40m? 

I mean the fact that one would pay 40m for CB based on his ball skills and not primary role which is defending is absurd. Why not just stick a CM there then...

Bottom line if I pay 40 fucking mio on someone who will regulary lose the ball becsuse he likes to play with it that will result in our team conceding Ill be furious. 

The only reason I want Stones here is because he is english. For that price you have triple the quality young CBs like Gimenez or Laporte. And to get a CB who can defend like Stones does; well we already had Luiz who we sold. 

Im just curious what will people say about Stones if he ends up like Luiz here. Making mistake after mistake. Ball playing CB is useless if he fucks up his main role which is tp defend.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

He is not quality worth 40m. Come on.

Where I have said Stones is worth 40m?

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

But for 40m? Hell no he makes too many mistakes for that fee. Regardless of age. If you value a CB 40m he better be damn good CB or at least have some serious potential. I mean every CB makes mistakes but Stones style of play only means he will make mistakes alot more than someone like Zouma who just kicks the ball away. 

I think people are putting too much thought into the 40m price that is quoted. Sure, it is a lot and it is ridiculous but part of the reason why the price is so high is because of the long term contract he has with Everton. If he only has 1-2 years left on it, the price wouldn't be so high.

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

I mean the fact that one would pay 40m for CB based on his ball skills and not primary role which is defending is absurd. Why not just stick a CM there then...

Bottom line if I pay 40 fucking mio on someone who will regulary lose the ball becsuse he likes to play with it that will result in our team conceding Ill be furious. 

The only reason I want Stones here is because he is english. For that price you have triple the quality young CBs like Gimenez or Laporte. And to get a CB who can defend like Stones does; well we already had Luiz who we sold. 

I don't deny that Stones has been making lots of defensive mistakes and has been taking the piss with the overplaying from the back of late but people really forget that he is only 21 years old, he's still very young, meaning there's still plenty of time to improve his game and change his game. It probably doesn't help his cause when Everton have a manager who doesn't give much thought on the defensive side of the game. You don't have to make it sound as though Stones is already a lost cause and is just another Luiz.

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Sigh. Here we go again. 

[the wes 7,212]

3 hours ago, blues.bridge said:

stop with stones,gimenez is much better,and probably his price is less!

 

 

 

[the wes 7,212]

This stats proves stones not worth £40m the only reason he's worth £40m cause he's English

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

40m bid? That's insane.

[the wes 7,212]

Just now, Blue_Fox_ said:

40m bid? That's insane.

That's the rumours that Everton are looking

[the wes 7,212]

2 hours ago, Marvin123 said:

Cahill included would get this deal done

I think Everton would take cahill no sweat 

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

I am trying not to get too excited about this one, after what happened in the summer. He's clearly not the finished article but I think him coming now would do wonders for him, specifically learning from an experienced manager such as Guus Hiddink and from playing alongside a legend and veteran like JT. Do I think Everton will sell him now? I highly doubt it but blimey would it be amazing to see that smug asshole Martinez cry over something else this week. Absolute bellend that guy, lost all respect for him. 

Also, if he does come (big If I know), watch the English media turn on him (I believe its already started after recent performances-which is shocking by the way, he's still a young lad learning the game, he didn't ask for this expectation/ attention to be thrusted upon him). 

Hope a deal can be made, like a previous poster, including Cahill sounds appealing to me and I think Everton would be into it, a current England Centre Half who is very decent.

[the wes 7,212]

12 minutes ago, Eidur the Spider said:

 including Cahill sounds appealing to me and I think Everton would be into it, a current England Centre Half who is very decent.

I think cahill wages would put Everton off want him tho 

[kmk108 1,186]

37 minutes ago, the wes said:

I think cahill wages would put Everton off want him tho 

He could take a pay cut if he's unhappy here. He doesn't strike me as someone who would choose a fat paycheck over regular starts.

[kmk108 1,186]

1 hour ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

40m bid? That's insane.

As has been said many times before, it's because he's a highly sought, young English CB. We need more homegrown players to avoid the squad issues from last season. The English players are always going to be valued higher than foreign players.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

3 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

As has been said many times before, it's because he's a highly sought, young English CB. We need more homegrown players to avoid the squad issues from last season. The English players are always going to be valued higher than foreign players.

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